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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Alloy of Law - Vanishers Theory
« on: August 14, 2011, 09:50:30 PM »
Oh damn, the word of Peter.. What about the possibility of using them as leverage against the nobility?

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Alloy of Law Excerpt (Updated with Ch3)
« on: August 14, 2011, 09:47:07 PM »
I see two possibilities with pulling an item crossing a speed bubble, both of which say (almost) nothing happens.

1. It cannot happen, the bubble warps itself to either include or exclude any discrete item.  This could have the side effect of deflecting and changing the speed of moving objects, like bullets.

2. The large change in momentum would increase the amount of force needed to move the table (that sticks out of a Bendalloy bubble).  I think it would be about 100x as hard (assuming 100x speedup of time) to accelerate an outside object (or part of one) from inside of the bubble as outside of it, because it would be moving that much faster in the outside world.  most objects are not that strong, so they would break at the edge of the bubble.

I'm not sure about either of these ideas, especially with such limited information to go off of, but I think #2 is better at least.

Yeah #2 does sound better, as it would seem to require less Scadriel-Laws of Physics-distortions, but it would still seem to bring up a couple things that would seem important for Wayne.

The ones that I can think of are that if you ever caught somebody's sword only halfway in a speed bubble (Vin was using a sword taller than she was in one of the books) and it wasn't mid-swing, having their sword suddenly become 100x heavier would basically ruin them. Of course that's probably not a super common situation but also, if you were fighting in a speed bubble (to make it harder for outsiders to interfere) then any halfway-in objects, instead of being thrown out of the way, would basically work the same as walls and make pins, headsmashes, etc. so much more effective in a way that you couldn't really ignore. Also if somebody was pushing something large or holding onto somebody falling off the edge of the cliff, catching all of them but only half of the object or person would make it basically impossible for them to push the object, and magnify the force of gravity (since that's what is really holding any of these objects in place in the first place) to pull the cliff-dangling guy out of his rescuers hands or, if the rescuer didn't let go, to pull him with him.

Also, for that matter, what about catching a person half-in, half-out? If #2 really holds true, the effect on their internal seems like possible death, or failing that the effect on their perception would at least be incredibly disorienting.

Since those are just like throwing some out there off the top of my head, it just seems that any way you spin it the edge of the speed bubble has to have a bunch of minor implications that cumulatively add up to being fairly major.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Alloy of Law Excerpt (Updated with Ch3)
« on: August 13, 2011, 02:30:08 AM »
hey what happens if you pull on something that's halfway in/ halfway out of a speed bubble? Say, pushing a long table - how fast does it move?

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Alloy of Law - Vanishers Theory
« on: August 13, 2011, 02:10:30 AM »
oops Duralumin my bad haha. anyways...

Yeah I don't think Nicrosil is popularly known because Wax specifically describes the editorial reaction to the speed bubble theory as 'they could never make one big enough, too much manpower' etc., a point at which, if he knew about Nicrosil, it would be pretty hard to not even consider the metal. So if he doesn't know it's definitely up in the air whether the Vanishers know.
    --of course, duralumin is probably not widely known either, with the absence of mistborn, just more likely to be known because it would probably be at least somewhere in cultural memory/ legends etc.

As for finding the gnats they could just feed everybody large quantities of Duralumin, say hey 'burn it or you'll die (from metal poisoning)' and then see who's alive at the end. Of course that is getting a bit complicated/ far-fetched, but I am pretty sure it would work.

It could also be that they're not even looking for allomancers, but rather taking women because they make better hostages, and are planning some sort of large-scale coup/ assault on the nobles or some sort of allomancer power house (explaining the need for aluminum bullets), using the hostages to force as many as they can to stand down. That would be supported by the way the leader was spouting some pseudo-morality very anti-noble lines in the ch. 5 robbery. 

Anyways it just totally bugs me that the first thing stolen was a *secret* aluminum shipment. Like, they clearly were targeting that specific metal first, it feels like it must have at least somehow enabled them to steal the other stuff.

Brandon Sanderson / Alloy of Law - Vanishers Theory
« on: August 12, 2011, 07:41:55 PM »
[Spoooilers? Idk what qualifies from preview chapters but if you haven't finished them stop here. Also, read them now because their amazing.]

I looked back a couple of pages and didn't see any topics specifically related to theories about the Vanishers so I was hoping to hear you guys' theories. Failing that, I'll start it off with mine and you can at least poke the holes in it.

The mysteries as I understand it are:

1. Who is the leader/ where did he come from/ who does he work for?
2. How do they steal the train cars?
3. What are they taking the hostages for/ why do they only want noble women?
4. Why do they want the money/ how does it figure into their endgame? (Wax notes them checking mouths etc. in chapter 5)
5. What is their endgame?

My hypothesis:

2. (This is the only real hypothesis): So basically aluminum mistings can't actually do anything, and bendalloy mistings can't produce large enough bubbles to steal entire train cars, but I'd say you use hemalurgy to stick aluminum-burning into a bendalloy misting and boom problem solved, except maybe you use a couple of them in conjunction.
    -Also, 1. hemalurgy would be more likely preserved in Koloss culture since it was much more out in the open, so the leader's Koloss blood could be connected to him knowing about it.
     -And, 3. aluminum gnats fit the bill because they would be born into noble families (due to the misting concentration) but at the same time not have any Allomantic powers to speak of (aluminum does nothing on it's own). Idk why the hostages are all women though.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Truthless
« on: September 28, 2010, 04:19:51 AM »
Didn't it say in the back of the book that all the orders of knights radiant were tied to a specific type of spren? And I guess there could be surgebinders besides the knights but the knights seem to pretty completely be the main ones.

Also, it seems like too much of a coincidence that Szeth has like the most absurdly huge sense of honor, and has the powers that come from bonding with honorspren, for him to not have genuinely bonded at some point. And, if there's always a truthless, what could ever be the point of that (considering that Szeth appears to have been traded away almost immediately after becoming truthless, or at least the guy who traded him wanted to get rid of him so badly that he wouldn't accept payment/threw out what he was given). My theory is that Szeth got his honorspren before he became truthless and now it's like WTF because he's killing people. Or it might be in a morality crisis because his honor is at odds with logical morality, or his spren was trapped in his oathstone as part of his punishment.
My personal theory is yeah, Szeth was a warrior, got traded among people, was picked to have a shardblade, was super honorable, got his spren, followed some ancient traditional command regarding voidbringers, got punished with his spren imprisoned (thus freezing his powers and the spren's sentience at their levels from the time of punishment) and was sent into the world as truthless.

On a side note (I know this is the wrong thread but it will take someone like two seconds to answer) what is the second number in Posts: number out of number. In Brandon's like FAQ he says he's going to explain the levels but as I remember the answer is mysteriously missing.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK: The Heralds *Spoilers*
« on: September 28, 2010, 03:36:22 AM »

Personally I don't think there were any spren around when the Heralds were active, the herald in the proloque ( I suck at remembering names) never mentioned them, even in passing. He didn't think of his own spren, or note any pain/fear spren on a giant battlefield. Also dalinar doesn't mention a single spren in any of his visions...

Nohadon said "alas, not all spren are as discerning as honorspren" in one of Dalinar's visions.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: King Tavarangian (WOK Spoilers!!!)
« on: September 19, 2010, 08:34:40 PM »
haha the Law of Conservation of Detail that's awesome. I was aware of it informally, but I'm totally stealing that link in the future. And I wouldn't make too much of the soulcaster angle because any organization with the resources to send shardbearers into random battles or to set up secret rooms that drain the blood from hundreds of people just to see what they say as they die is bound to have acquired a soulcaster somewhere along the way.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Bridge 4 Crew T-Shirts
« on: September 19, 2010, 08:13:32 PM »
the scene with bridge four pushing the bridge over the gap while kaladin runs up and jumps over, with him in midair jumping toward whoever's looking at the shirt with stormlight coming out of him and Bridge Four written on the front of the bridge and the shattered plains stretching out in the background would be pretty epic imo.

also, you can have the silhouette of the parshendi below. (like it's really just the main image cutting off there but it ends up looking like a silhouette of the Parshendi. I've seen it done before with wolves on threadless but I can't find the pic)

I totally laughed when I read the "I'm wearing your mom" one, I just don't actually have any friends who read this book so every single would be like WTF and then not laugh after I explain because they didn't read the book. Versus, I'd kinda rather have one going for the serious/cool effect because anyone could see that it looks cool, and maybe some of them would want to read it, and if I meet someone who read it we would still have the "Hellz yeah I love that book" effect.
Of course, if you're able to go to a bunch of signings and stuff then the "I'm wearing your mom" shirt would be perfect so idk.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Dalinar's gift and curse (lolSpoilers)
« on: September 17, 2010, 06:56:20 AM »
also, he might have looked at Renarin when the topic came up, but he definitely seemed ashamed/wished he hadn't done it. If he saved Renarin's life with his trip, then wishing he hadn't gone would almost be like wishing Renarin were dead.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: WOK Spoilers: Parshmen
« on: September 17, 2010, 05:18:46 AM »
First a few questions/ problems:

how is it that the battles just happen to take place where the Chasmfiends planted themselves? Especially considering that the Desolations were usually attacking the humans, and the Chasmfiends could hardly get that close without the humans noticing and killing them. It is possible that the last desolation was an attack initiated by the humans, and usually the Chasmfiends walk to the fighting, but otherwise this doesn't seem to quite add up. Also, is it really that much of an upgrade? All that time vulnerable, when you could be killed, in exchange for stone skin and faster movement doesn't seem too amazing since the Chasmfiends are pretty BA already. Also, what about all the other Greatshells? Do they all become Thunderclasts, do only Chasmfiends pupate? The theory starts to look a little iffy to me, except for "what else could the Chasmfiends be changing into?" However, if the Thunderclasts were going to battle, shouldn't their little bros be marching with them? Like, anyone who's already turned into a thunderclast behind goes sure, but the Chasmfiends are pretty dangerous themselves. Leaving them behind seems like a waste, especially when they have like thousands of years to replenish in between desolations. Therefore, there is no reason we must have already seen the result of a chasmfiend pupation, as we did not see any chasmfiends in the prelude either.

Then a couple crazy theories:

Sorry, no answer for that, but I do have a couple theories on the Thunderclasts: perhaps the Parshmen/Parshendi dead bodies are actually what drops the seed for the Thunderclasts. This would be interesting as each desolation would leave dead bodies that would drop thunderclast stuff (idk what it would be, but I'm sure Brandon could come up with something) that would mature into a thunderclast over like a thousand years. Then when they come back for the next desolation, all the thunderclasts that were planted rise up which helps explain why the parshmen are so anal about their dead bodies (more time in the same place = more chance of becoming thunderclasts, and the reaction to Kaladin was just an offshoot of dead body protection) and would support why the Desolations always caught the humans by surprise, because the thunderclasts were rising out from the very ground beneath them.

Or, what if the thunderclasts fly into the battle? OK, not like they can fly, but Odium or surgebinding or something launches them to wherever the battle is. Then they hit the ground so hard they're buried into it and thus have to rip themselves free of it. This would also explain Thunder = come from the sky + loud noise when they hit the ground. Do you think the crater/ blast radius would ruin this theory?

And then the theory that I mean as an actually solid theory:

What if Parshmen/Parshendi are the equivalent of Humans, and Voidbringers are the equivalent of Knights Radiant.
Just as windrunners are an order of knights radiant, dustbringers are an order of Voidbringers.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK 30 magic systems (spoilers)
« on: September 17, 2010, 04:45:58 AM »
one thing I was thinking is maybe Dustbringers are to Voidbringers as Windrunners are to Knights Radiant, that would give us one of their orders.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Sazed, The effects of holding two shards, and Odium
« on: September 17, 2010, 03:00:02 AM »
maybe the ruin/preservation combo creates the policy of nonintervention that HOID mentions in his letter

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Language of Dalinar's gibberish?
« on: September 17, 2010, 01:21:23 AM »
random thought- what if forced out of tranquiline halls just = forced to planet hop to escape?

edit: on further consideration, this doesn't seem to likely. but if we have seen the dawnsigners' language on another planet, there must be something more to it. Also, does Szeth have any lines in his native language? although the line from the interlude doesn't have any common words, shin = descendants of dawnsingers could explain his knowledge of lashings & the stone shamans' supposed power. also, it's interesting to note that the parshendi are super east, and the high storms come from the east, and the shin are super west. although the fact that shin were in the knights radiant does make this unlikely

Brandon Sanderson / Re: szeth and the shin
« on: September 16, 2010, 11:39:41 PM »
well i was thinking of it like a lesser of two evils thing "I can stay here and do 0% of anything," or "I can get an oathstone and maybe at least manage 1% of something" however, I do admit that it sounds like a poorly thought out plan for someone with an oathstone and surgebinding, but really I just want to try and get at least some explanations out there for "his punishment demanded that they didn't, his honor demanded that they did" because this line just feels incredibly key and the more ideas people throw out there the more likely we are to get another step closer to figuring it out. Kind of like a 0% versus 1% thing of my own.

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