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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Wheel v. Mist
« on: May 14, 2008, 05:20:32 PM »
Pain is not an emotion, it is a sensation, which is different. So a soother would not be able to minimize the pain, but rioting the pleasure could make you forget, maybe ? I doubt it very much. ::)

Ok, I'm out of here  :)

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Ashfalls
« on: May 14, 2008, 05:17:07 PM »
I don't know about that, but one thing is certain. The Lord Ruler wasn't ruling everywhere. It does say that much in MB1 somewhere...

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Vin as HOA?
« on: May 14, 2008, 01:47:45 AM »
I was under the impression, reading MB1, that the logbook was way bigger than the extracts Brandon left us to read. But, why not. I'll check that too.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Comprehensive Hemalurgy Thread
« on: May 14, 2008, 01:46:05 AM »
How do we know he was there to take the power to himself ? How do we know he chose to do this ? There is absolutely nothing that tells us he did this of his own free will. Killing Alendi is one thing, believing yourself to be the savior, is something else. What convinced him to take that role ? We know nothing of his motivation (and that bugs me).

Nevertheless, the way it happened is not that important. For all we know, Kwaan could have been with him and he might have been the one giving the beads while the whole cavern was shaking to pieces. What we know, or can fairly guess, is that the future nobles were there, in that place while the future Lord Ruler was playing with his favorite metal lake. What we know is that these future nobles ingested those beads, and another thing we do know is that in order to snap, you have to nearly die, so they must have been, all of them, seriously in danger.

If stopping Vin was the only motivation the Mist had to nearly kill Elend, then why did it give her the means to heal him ? If a child disobey its parents, it has to suffer the consequences. Did Vin deserve to have Elend back ? I mean, if you were the Mist Spirit and you did not want her to liberate the power, after she did so, would you reward her ?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Ruin and Preservation
« on: May 14, 2008, 01:26:22 AM »
Well, I guess it's the most appropriate topic to present this.

I was reading Darxbane saying he did not believe that the well's power was of Ruin. I myself would love to believe it. But things keep on jumping in my eyes and that bugs me quite a bit !

First, in re-reading again the fight between Sazed and Marsh I find this :

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"Why did you come ?" Marsh whispered as Sazed struggled to his knees. "Everything was going so well." He watched with iron eyes as Sazed slowly crawled away.

Now that doesn't tell much of my thinking but it was then that I went backwards a bit. When Sazed arrives at the opening Vin made in the wall, Marsh is there just like keeping the entrance. Not just like, he is keeping the entrance and then, seeing Sazed he tells us he wish he would understand why he had to kill Sazed.

To me, wether the well's power is Ruin or Preservation (and to me preservation means life, and not static), I know it is evil. No, I am not bringing this into discussing good and evil, please.

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The cavern continued to shake, dust and chips falling from the ceiling. And then, in a moment of surreal clarity, Vin heard a single, distinct sentence ringing in her mind.

I am FREE !

Sentence has two different meaning, doesn't it ? It means what I am writing right now. Something that starts with a capital letter and ends by a dot. But there is that other one, no ? The one that means condemnation ? If it's that one, then the well's power is evil and more still, Marsh is manipulated by it, whatever it is. Forget about chaos and all the rest. How could life pronounce a sentence of death ?

Any thoughts on these last ramblings ?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Koloss
« on: May 14, 2008, 01:08:13 AM »
Sorry, Darxounet  ;D, but here is the quote :

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"Why did you come ?" Marsh whispered as Sazed struggled to his knees. "Everything was going so well." He watched with iron eyes as Sazed slowly crawled away.

So Iron eyes again. It is not a coïncidence. We should call Marsh "Iron Eyes" to not forget anymore.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Ashfalls
« on: May 14, 2008, 12:01:17 AM »
No, but I do remember snowing, therefore, when it's not freezing, it has to be raining.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Koloss
« on: May 12, 2008, 10:54:47 PM »
No it wasn't. The only quote that talks about it is in the opening post of this thread. It really doesn't say much.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Vin as HOA?
« on: May 12, 2008, 02:44:09 PM »
We can trust it as much as the steel plate confirms it and it does confirms some of it, especially regarding Rashek animosity. But you are right, we cannot trust anything on paper. Maybe that is one of the reason why the Lord Ruler left it out of his incubating room.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Ashfalls
« on: May 12, 2008, 02:41:48 PM »
I don't remember reading about weather complaints... I have to ask for my MB 1 back...

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Comprehensive Hemalurgy Thread
« on: May 12, 2008, 02:37:57 AM »
Yes, good question... and I have something else to pound about :

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She turned to the side, numbly realizing where she knelt. The pool glowed beside her, just inches from where Elend had fallen. Some of his blood had dribbled into the pool, though it didn't mix with the liquid metal.

To be found on p.569...

Tell me this is not interesting. And don't forget about all those broken potery pieces. Elend has a whole one in his hand right now. What I see, here, might have happen with Rashek as well. Remember what the Steel Ministry taught those nobles ? That they had the gifts of Mistborn because they helped TLR at the beginning ? And why do I post this here ? Blood into the liquid metal, that's why. Let's picture this.

We are in Rashek's days. He doesn't trust any feruchemist anymore, worldbringer or not. He can hardly trust the Terris people either because they are responsible of the spreading of the "modified" Terris religion. One of the things that happen when a religion spreads, it that it makes converts. And somehow, Rashek surrounded himself with those. They were looking for a savior and here he is. He knows everything there is to know about the Hero of Ages, so he makes certain he fits the picture and those poor people (he despised them mind you) follow him blind folded. They all come to the Well but then The Mist Spirit does not want Rashek to fight against the Well's power, because he is not THE Hero. So he does what he did with Vin and Elend. He slashes open the bellies of all those followers... and their blood drips into the Well. Rashek is torn. He has to have followers, but the Well is there with its powers. If he takes it, can he not "redo" everything. So like Vin, he hesitates only a moment before entering the pool. As the liquid metal and all the blood drips of the people gets in him, he discovers the real power. Thanks to his blood bath, and to the metal he has ingested, he becomes the first Hemalurgist, maybe the only one if it is through hemalurgy that he creates the Inquisitors and the Koloss (maybe the Kandra, as long as we do not find metal in them under a form or another, I question this). He will keep the power and recreate everything. When he gets out of the Well, he sees the Mist Spirit and understand, somehow, that the use of those beads will help his dying followers. So, in a hurry, he brakes as many potery he can find and gives the beads to the people. They all become Mistborn. The power is pure. The Lord Ruler does not create Mistborn, but let's say that he acts as a wise woman. Then he may create whatever he wants or he did already.

When the Mistborns heals he makes them believe they owe their lives to him, and that he has blessed them in a way only a god can do. They believe him. He might not have told them not to mix with other people then, other people meaning those that are not Mistborn. He might have learn overtime that this dilutes the power and afterwards, he forbeeds them to reproduce with "lower borned" people.

Plausible ?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Written in Steel - Spoilers
« on: May 12, 2008, 01:49:05 AM »
But the question is : Did the Lord Ruler made that steel map ? For all we know, it could also have been Kwaan. And so much because it could be weeks, months, maybe years before he could come out.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Written in Steel - Spoilers
« on: May 11, 2008, 01:43:02 PM »
Preservation does not mean static. You preserve something, usually life, and not the means of life. If change is necessary to preserve life, I do not think it impossible for Preservation to make changes.

TLR being eternal could have stock pile only for him. Maybe he meant to bury himself with Ruin for the time it was necessary or by a mean of escaping destruction once Ruin would have been freed... just rambling. I really don't know, but one thing I am sure. He stocked piled food for himself alone. I don't see him sharing.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Mistborn P&P RPG?
« on: May 11, 2008, 01:36:05 PM »
Having Euol's authorization would also be a great idea. Are you reading this, Brandon ? At least, I would feel much more comfortable and who knows ! Maybe it could get as big as D&D, Brandon could create books (or at least one) and collect more author's right on this.  ;D

As for Mistborn, there could not be many. And do not forget that before they get stronger in their ability, they first have to escape death before they snap and do become Mist-whatever.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Koloss
« on: May 11, 2008, 01:32:04 PM »
To my knowledge, there is no mention of where in their body they found the nails. And I confirm, it doesn't say anywhere that Kandra have nails. However, who saw a naked kandra ? Or even just a corpse ? Brandon is hiding something...

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