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« Reply #45 on: October 04, 2010, 06:02:15 PM »
I have been tending to think that the heralds corresponded to the other symbol map on the back, i thought the one on the front always looked more voidbringer-esque with the whole big scary face behind it and all

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« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2010, 06:04:33 PM »
Sweet. It's a stretch, but there are also ten countries on the map next to it, vaguely set up like the Heralds on the first map. any connections?

I don't *think* so.  However your comment made me think of the background of the picture which looks like two dragons mirrored but also reminds me of the cymatic drawings of the towns.  Could the background be the shape of the city of Urithiru?  *wild speculation*


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« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2010, 09:23:54 PM »
On I-1 and ch. 12 the guy with the mask--is that confirmed to be Hoid?

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« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2010, 12:19:06 AM »
On I-1 and ch. 12 the guy with the mask--is that confirmed to be Hoid?

Who else could it possibly be?
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« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2010, 02:55:42 AM »
Good point  :P

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« Reply #50 on: October 09, 2010, 08:04:00 AM »
The portraits do not necessarily represent how anyone actually looks. They're more idealized, in-world carved stone art.
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« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2010, 06:42:08 PM »
The portraits do not necessarily represent how anyone actually looks. They're more idealized, in-world carved stone art.

So....you're saying someone made a stonework carving of Hoid? I wonder why...

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« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2010, 08:01:45 PM »
Also I copied the inside cover to use to identify the symbol/color/picture for each Herald for easier reference and identified soulcasting since that's the one we know must be shared between Jasnah and Shallan.

http://stormlightarchive.wikia.com/wiki/File:Heralds.jpg

Might I suggest that we know one other besides Soulcasting? In ch. 19--Dalinar's first vision--we see these two things:
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Dalinar lurched, turning to see a woman in delicate Shardplate kneeling beside him holding something bright. It was topaz entwined with a heliodor, both set into a fine metal framework, each stone as big as a man's hand.
Topaz and Heliodor are Taln and Ishi, which would mean that connecting the two of them ends up with the Shardbearing girl's ability:
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"Lady Knight, could you heal him again?"
"I should save Regrowth for others who might be wounded."
Which would make the top left small circle Regrowth.

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« Reply #53 on: October 09, 2010, 08:25:30 PM »
Aha!  Yes, I agree that that's another form of the Almighty's powerful Capitilization magic.

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« Reply #54 on: October 09, 2010, 09:30:12 PM »
Are we sure she isn't soulcasting?  The essences for Topaz and Heliodor are Bone and Flesh.  Jasnah says that when soulcasting, it is really easy to make an essence.  Thus, it should be really easy to soulcast bone and flesh, especially with stones that big.  Considering Jasnah soulcast Shallan's blood, might this be a soulcasting capability as well?

That brings up another question:

Can Jasnah or Shallan potentially perform this same feat?

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« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2010, 03:09:59 AM »
I would have thought Vev would be the order that healed.

In addition, maybe Hoid has visited Roshar in the past. Maybe he was there during the Last desolation, or when the way of kings was written? At that time his sculpture was made, for they realised Hoid had some secret power.
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« Reply #56 on: October 10, 2010, 09:25:20 PM »
I would have thought Vev would be the order that healed.

In addition, maybe Hoid has visited Roshar in the past. Maybe he was there during the Last desolation, or when the way of kings was written? At that time his sculpture was made, for they realised Hoid had some secret power.

That's an awesome realization if true. It seems likely enough—Hoid's got a grudge against Rayse and Bavadin, after all.
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« Reply #57 on: October 11, 2010, 05:25:10 AM »
We recently received another piece to the puzzle of deciphering the Knights Radiant orders.

See Brandon Sanderson interview:
http://www.17thshard.com/forum/index.php/topic,324.0.html

In his interview, he states that each order has 2 powers, and each power is shared by 2 orders.  The small glyphs in the front cover signify the powers.  Thus, it is adjacent orders that share specific powers.

Thus, with Shallan being order Shash, Jasnah could only possibly be Palah, Shash, or Betab.  Since her personality eliminates Shash, that leaves only Palah or Betab, which are the two possible orders put forth for her earlier.

This also forces Kaladin and Szeth to be in the same, or adjacent, orders.