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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Ten Focus Characters of the 10 SA Books
« on: October 03, 2010, 08:30:41 AM »
Szeth gets a book. Jasnah gets a book. Talanel is not confirmed to get a book, but I certainly want it to happen.

I thought I heard somewhere that book two was going to be called The Highprince of War, or something like that, so wouldn't that apply to Sadeas?

Unless Brandon decided really recently, SA2 would either be a Dalinar book or a Shallan book. If Dalinar, it will be The Highprince of War. If Shallan, then The Shattered Plains.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Splinters - SPOILERS for TWoK and Elantris
« on: September 13, 2010, 12:35:38 AM »
See, I took the Splinters of Aona to be the Seons and the Splinters of Skai to be the Skaze. Also, I don't think you're able to take up the power of a splintered Shard.
I like this theory.  To take it one step further - could the Spren be Splinters of the Almighty?  Notice that there aren't any spren in the prelude, and spren are associated with each order of Knight Radiant (aligning nicely with ROSHtafARian's theory).

Also worth noting - The shardblades and the shardplate.  What are they shards of?  If ROSH is right, then they could be splinters of the Almighty's power.  But what if they aren't?

...They are? I didn't know spren were associated with each order. Certainly makes sense considering Syl and the Surgebinders. But remember, Syl doesn't like how Shardblades feel. That's strong evidence, in my opinion, that the Shardblades are of a different Shard than spren.

Very interesting theory, for sure.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: *Spoilers* General Shard List
« on: September 13, 2010, 12:32:32 AM »
About p119 and Elithanathile:

"a heretic wielding one of the most sacred powers in all the world. The power of change itself, the power by which the Almighty had created Roshar. He had another name, allowed to pass only the lips of ardents. Elithanathile. He Who Transforms."

It is possible that this is referring to Adonalsium, which is certainly the power by which the Almighty had created Roshar.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Sazed, The effects of holding two shards, and Odium
« on: September 11, 2010, 05:31:06 AM »
I have relevant quotes for these questions, not just mere speculation!

When does Way of Kings take place relative to Mistborn, Elantris, and Warbreaker? It may be that Sazed has been Shardholder for a while, or that Alendi isn't even born yet.

I thought I remembered the books were scattered all over the Overall Timeline. I think Elantris was either very early or late, comparatively.

Though maybe you're right, because now that I think about it, the epigraphs did seem to mention Ati as finished.

This is one of the answers we got in the 17th Shard interview which should* come this weekend. He said all the books have occurred in chronological order in the cosmere as they've been published. So Elantris, Mistborn, Warbreaker, then Way of Kings, in that order.

Also, Will found out at the Chicago signing that Odium went to Sel before the events of Elantris.

Next, for the actual question at hand, here's what I asked him in May:

Q: Will Sazed eventually go mad trying to hold two Shard's power at the same time (being pushed to two different Purposes simultaneously for millennia)? Why hasn't anyone else tried this trick before in the Cosmere?

ANSWER: No.  Since they're so opposite they work together to create a whole.  However, after a LONG time it would change him as a person.

So... there you have it, I guess?

whats odium? i've read all but way of kings in the adolsuim universe is it something in the way of kings?

Yes, this is probably quite spoilery. I strongly suggest you read it.

Oh, Szeth is awesome. Are you excited as I am that he'll be getting his own book? It's true :D

The Taravangian reveal was emotional, but it didn't match my horror when Sadeas betrayed Dalinar. That was just... God. I can't put words into that one.
Please can you get that interview posted....

Soon! The weekend! Maybe!

Oh, Szeth is awesome. Are you excited as I am that he'll be getting his own book? It's true :D

The Taravangian reveal was emotional, but it didn't match my horror when Sadeas betrayed Dalinar. That was just... God. I can't put words into that one.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK Part 2 Epigraphs *Major Spoilers*
« on: September 07, 2010, 09:52:43 PM »
Is anyone else worried about Saze?  I can't imagine that Rayse would react well to Ruin and Preservation being held by the same person.

Good point. I'm worried, too. If Odium went to Scadrial now to destroy Sazed, he could probably win, because Sazed doesn't have enough experience with the power.

On the other hand, who knows what would have happened if the Shards held by Aona and Skai were held by the same person, like Sazed with Ruin and Preservation? Odium may be able to kill Shardholders individually, but perhaps Sazed would have some distinct advantages for holding two Shards. Then again, holding two Shards may be more susceptible to Splintering, for all we know.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: *WoK Spoilers* The Almighty?
« on: September 07, 2010, 04:40:20 AM »
Odium is the name of the Shard. (It's just a much more obscure word than Cultivation, Ruin, or Endowment, etc.)

Brandon Sanderson / Re: First Interlude *Way of Kings SPOILERS*
« on: September 06, 2010, 10:29:33 PM »
Happyman, I completely agree with your assessment. I think it all makes sense.

My one concern is that the epigraphs aren't written in a very Hoid style. Remember how distinctive the epigraphs in MB3 were in revealing the mystery? I worry that we are wrong, somehow. Granted, I don't see how we could be. Perhaps the change in Hoid's tone is simply because he's in deep trouble.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK: The Heralds *Minor Spoilers*
« on: September 06, 2010, 09:55:11 PM »
Well, there's going to be ten different viewpoint characters like Kaladin (though there may be a second Kaladin book). Dalinar and Shallan, obviously, will get books. Szeth will get a book (squee!). Even with a second Kaladin book, that's five out of ten Stormlight Archive novels. [Source: that interview Josh, Mi'ch, and I did with Brandon for 17th Shard, which, um, hasn't come live yet. Soon!]

I'd think that Taln would get a very late book. Without him, we wouldn't get a unique perspective on certain things that have been lost forever. We wouldn't know as much about Hemalurgy in MB3 without Marsh's viewpoints, for example. I think that he will be a major character, but not for a while.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK: The Heralds *Minor Spoilers*
« on: September 06, 2010, 09:33:58 PM »
Man, I sure hope he's a major viewpoint character in a later novel. That would be awesome.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: First Interlude *Way of Kings SPOILERS*
« on: September 06, 2010, 09:30:58 PM »
Maybe I'm missing something about Hoid, but how do we know that he fulfills conditions 1 , 3, 5, and 6? So far, he hasn't seemed like he was seeking help. As far as I'm aware, he hasn't expressed personal knowledge of any of the shardholders. He hasn't mentioned any motivations involving Rayse or Bavadin. And we don't know for sure if the people looking for him were from the 17th shard.

And it's unclear if he's even directly involved. At best, he's been an observer so far. A sarcastic observer, true, but that's basically it.

Uhhh, well, Brandon said that Hoid was there when Adonalsium was shattered. Thus, he's the only such candidate we know of who could possibly remember that their names were Ati or Rayse.

If you interpret things this way, certain other quotes no longer seem enigmatic. To wit:

“People see in stories what they’re looking for, my young friend.” He reached behind his boulder, pulling out a pack and slinging it on his shoulder. “I have no answers for you. Most days, I feel I never have had any answers. I’ve come to your land to chase an old acquaintance, but I end up spending most of my time hiding from him instead.

He's come to Roshar, to chase an old acquaintance--Rayse--but he ends up spending his time hiding from instead, since Rayse controls Odium, and if Rayse finds him, Hoid will die.

Makes sense to me.

Furthermore, we know that the Seventeenth Shard planet hops, so if there are planet hoppers searching for Hoid, it's pretty logical that it's the Seventeenth Shard.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: First Interlude *Way of Kings SPOILERS*
« on: September 06, 2010, 07:29:25 PM »
That... that rigorously describes my feelings in a far clearer way than I ever could have written :P

If, um, you aren't going to join, can I repost what you just said there on those forums? Your argument is fantastic.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: First Interlude *Way of Kings SPOILERS*
« on: September 06, 2010, 06:58:42 PM »
Falsifying it is as impossible as proving it, at this point, without a direct reveal from Brandon (which I don't see happening).

But the author could be any other Shardholder, really. Or anyone else with the ability to travel between worlds.

Well, I definitely don't think its another Shardholder, because Shardholders never seem to refer to other Shardholders by their original name, but by the Shard itself. Shards talk about each other not in terms of Ati, Leras, and Rayse, but Ruin, Preservation, and Odium. It's too consistent of an effect.

Whoever wrote the epigraphs is someone separate from Shardholders.

Brandon Sanderson / Shards (Elantris and WoK spoilers)
« on: September 06, 2010, 06:55:56 PM »
It's still pretty tenuous, but I suppose it's the best we've got.  It just seems so hard to know where the Shard's referenced were, given that both Hoid and the recipient already know the background information.

Definitely. And complicating matters is the fact that--if Odium went to Sel prior to the events of Elantris--we don't really know what "Splintered" means, which makes it even harder to discern what Shard does what on that world.

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