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Brandon Sanderson / Re: First Interlude *Way of Kings SPOILERS*
« on: September 02, 2010, 03:12:58 PM »
Ah, yes, that sounds right.

I just don't think well in the mornings.

No prob. Also, as we know we are obviously on to something here, i will say this.

Last night at the signing, brandon said that there are references to elantris, as well as hints to the nature of the shards from elantris, and direct references to elantris events, so i think we are on to something here. He said most people who haven't read the other books will likely just ignore and pass up these sections as nothing in particular, so i presume they're fairly subtle.
Well, there was the mention that Rayse spent time on Sel (and that it ended disastrously).

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: First Interlude *Way of Kings SPOILERS*
« on: September 02, 2010, 02:59:50 PM »
Ah, yes, that sounds right.

I just don't think well in the mornings.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: First Interlude *Way of Kings SPOILERS*
« on: September 02, 2010, 02:54:12 PM »
I have to admit, I'm not too clear on the terminology here.

What exactly is a shardbearer, outside of the context of Roshar? Does that just mean someone from one of the worlds with a shard active on it?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Other Writers Like Brandon?
« on: September 02, 2010, 02:52:52 PM »
I recommend basically anything by Robin Hobb. Start out with the assassin trilogy (Assassin's Apprentice is the first book). It's not as good as her second trilogy (the Liveship Traders), but it's still quite good. You can read Liveship Traders first and understand it completely, but it WILL spoil some major plot points from the assassin series. She also wrote a third trilogy in the same world (the Tawny Man), which goes back to the characters from the first trilogy, and is currently working on a fourth (the Rain Wild), which is shaping up nicely.

Finally, she wrote an unrelated series called the Soldier Son trilogy. It's... unusual. Definitely very unique. Overall, I'd say I liked it, but it can be hellishly slow at times. Some people love it, and some people hate it.

Daniel Abraham's "The Long Price" series definitely has a very unique magic system: poets use words and thoughts to bind living ideas into human form.

It's somewhat hard to follow at times, though. Still, the first book (A Shadow in Summer) is probably worth a look.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: *WoK Spoilers* The Almighty?
« on: September 02, 2010, 02:45:13 PM »
I might have missed something, but I didn't get the impression that Cultivation was definitely on Roshar at any point. Since the shards know each other, from what I understand, then it's also possible that the Almighty was just mentioning someone on another planet who was better at prophecy than him.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: First Interlude *Way of Kings SPOILERS*
« on: September 02, 2010, 02:38:31 PM »
If you ask the right yes/no question to Brandon at a signing, he might say something about your theories.
Well, the Mystery Galaxy Bookstore signing on the tenth is pretty close to me, so I'll see if I can make it then and ask him.

Thanks for the tip.

EDIT: Hmm... so, anyone have any idea about the question I should ask? "Are these characters from Sel" might be a bit too specific if I'm wrong.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: First Interlude *Way of Kings SPOILERS*
« on: September 02, 2010, 04:44:14 AM »
I can tell you this one: you're onto SOMETHING but you're looking at it a little too specifically.  But, good for your thinking.
I'm not really sure how to phrase this tactfully... it's not something I've ever been good at.

I've noticed that some people on these forums have access to "insider information". I assume you're one of them?

Let the wild guesses commence!

Umm... maybe it's just a Dula, and not Galladon specifically? The only thing that pointed to him was temperament, and even that wasn't made too clear.

Am I getting warmer?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: First Interlude *Way of Kings SPOILERS*
« on: September 02, 2010, 04:01:02 AM »
There was no language overlap, Grump never once said kolo or sule.  He simply used a similar sentence structure to Galladon, with the use of understand and friend in the same way Galldon would use kolo or sule, respectively.  I believe you're mixing up your notes here.
He said "kayana" at the end of the interlude. Re-read my first post.

Basically any time Raoden came up with any plan in Elantris, Galladon would sigh and say "You're kayana, sule."

I'm definitely not mixing up my references here. In fact, if it hadn't been for that line in WoK, I probably wouldn't have even thought of the Elantris.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: First Interlude *Way of Kings SPOILERS*
« on: September 02, 2010, 03:40:54 AM »
I'm of the opinion that you're reading too much into this.  Brandon has a bunch of characters, some whose mannerisms overlap is bound to happen eventually.
An overlap in mannerisms is one thing.

An overlap in mannerisms accompanied by an overlap in a specific fictional language along with looking the same and having the same personality... I see three possibilities.

1. Brandon wasn't thinking. This one is really, really unlikely. There's no way that'd slip by editors.
2. Brandon is trying to mislead us. Possible, I suppose, but I don't he'd do it in this way.
3. It's Galladon.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: First Interlude *Way of Kings SPOILERS*
« on: September 02, 2010, 03:33:01 AM »
Frankly, I don't see any way it's not Galladon.

Grumpy looking like Galladon could be a coincidence. Him being grumpy could be a coincidence.

Him speaking Dula is a clear reference.


It's the other two I'm unsure of.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: First Interlude *Way of Kings SPOILERS*
« on: September 02, 2010, 01:40:26 AM »
Might even be Galladon's son or something, depending on how long it's been since the events of Elantris.

Although that's really just a wild guess on my part.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WOK Spoilers: Parshmen
« on: September 02, 2010, 01:11:44 AM »
It might just be that Odium is more detached than we think.

We know that Ati (Ruin) was changed from a caring and compassionate person into an incredibly destructive force. Even if Odium is Rayse, it's possible that his personality changed, too.

Maybe he just likes to watch people die in a more distant way. Not necessarily... bloodthirsty, but still disturbing.

At this point, it's just as likely that he's content to sit back and watch the humans and the parshmen kill each other.

This is me just pulling stuff out of thin air, of course. I would actually be quite surprised if I were right...

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: *WoK Spoilers* The Almighty?
« on: September 02, 2010, 01:06:57 AM »
I'm not yet convinced that the epigraphs are either written by or addressed to Hoid. Sure, they use a bit of dry wit, but that's not exactly exclusive to him.

It's possible, of course, but I wouldn't really bank on it until we know a lot more about him.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: First Interlude *Way of Kings SPOILERS*
« on: September 02, 2010, 01:04:50 AM »
I know Galladon was dark-skinned. I remember some kind of reference to him looking really distinctive when compared to other Elantrians, since most of them were light-skinned.

I actually was thinking of Saolin, not Dashe. I forgot that he was put into the pool. Did Dashe even appear anywhere outside of the Elantris short story? It's still possible it's him, but it's considerably less likely if he's that minor of a character, in my opinion. I just can't think of any other prominent male characters that fit the description... unless it's Uncle Kin (and I have no idea if he was dark-skinned).

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: First Interlude *Way of Kings SPOILERS*
« on: September 02, 2010, 12:50:14 AM »
Yeah, I noticed the way he talks, too. It really seems to fit him.

Also, it's worth noting that as an Elantrian, Galladon is immortal, so this doesn't necessarily mean that WoK takes place around the same time as Elantris.

EDIT: Oh, and the word "kamaloo" that Grumpy says is very similar to "kaloo", which is a (very weak) connection to the Dula language.

Two things I'm unsure of: was Dashe dark-skinned, like Blunt? And did Raoden end up with a scar along his scalp? The first wouldn't mean much, but the second would support the Elantrian theory.

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