Revenge of the Sith

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

cruel cruel fate! Why do you mock me?!
"That's not God, that's a waffle Bart threw up there. See? I'll get it down with this broom."
"I know I should not eat thee lord, but.... mmmmm.... sacrilicious...."

[Dex1138]

I just went through frame by frame (I know, I'm a geek)
Watch near the end where that huge lava wave comes up over the walkway. Kinda looks like someone is standing right under it  

Do you think Palpatine always looks like Sidious and he is just projecting some kind of Force-illusion so he appears as Palpatine? Just something I was curious about.

Don't remember if I mentioned it in this thread (or even on this forum) but IMO one of the reasons the fan(boy)s hate the prequels is that it's not the same formula. Because of the nature of the story it can't be another hero's journey.

Lucas, intentionally or no, also leaves much of the personality/detail construciton to the viewer.
It's intentional. He's mentioned it before in interviews. He's not as concerned with the performances, just telling his story. The main actors in Star Wars have said many times his direction consisted of "Do it again. Faster and more intense."

[Oseleon]

Yes, Carrie Fischer likes to say that about George alot
"You can write this stuff but you cant say it"
"No direction"
etc...

Thats why Lucas went and got a Dialogue coach this time after Coppola "suggested" it.  
(By Suggested, I think Coppola put the Coaches contract in front of Lucas and a gun against George's head,  Told him that either George's Signiture would be on the contract or his brain)

Seriously, I think that my biggest critique of EP2 was that the lines between Anakin and Padme, especialy at the Lake Retreat, were just so poorly delivered.  
I mean if you were to read a transcript of the scene, you can see that it had real potential.  
But it was bungled on delivery.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

The problem with that scene was not just line delivery. It was blocking as well. We all know that Padme stood in front of the fire primarily so we could see her figure (and a fine one it is!), but there was no movement. In such an intensely emotional scene, that's not right. Their arms, at least, should have moved, steps toward and away from each other, etc. Dialog coaching will help some, but please, let's direct some movement besides the sword fight.

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

why does it have to be bad for someone to feel passionately about the movies? I just ask because in the case of Star Wars fanboy is almost always used as a derogatory term. Why is it wrong for me to dislike adding a Jabba scene in Ep IV, or having Han shoot second? Why is it wrong to hate Annakin being replaced by Hayden Christenson in Jedi... or Gungans... honestly I would be happy if the Empire slaughtered every Gungan ever and then had lucas re-release jedi with a newly cut celebration scene at the end of a massive Gungan graveyard. Star Wars was something special to me in my youth, it was mine, we played star wars in my backyard, we played with the figures, we made up all kinds of stories...
In this case the nostalgia of Star Wars just may be a little better than the reality of star wars..  

[Fellfrosch]

Go ahead and dislike it--I'm with you on a lot of that stuff. I didn't hate the gungans, per se, but my opinions on the CG Jabba have been well-discussed on this forum.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

yeah, there's nothing wrong with disliking it (although I still maintain you'll be wrong *wink*). I'm not sure where that's even been said in this thread.

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

wrong like a fox.

[Spriggan]

I find it funny that in the Credits of EP 1 Jaba is credited as himself.

[Dex1138]

yeah, there's nothing wrong with disliking it (although I still maintain you'll be wrong *wink*). I'm not sure where that's even been said in this thread.

May have been a reference to my metion of fanboys and the derogatoriness thereof.
I think by it's usage it's supposed to be somewhat derogatory. *shrug*

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

ok, well, let's clarify

Here's a line from what we normally refer to as a "fanboy" (shamelessly ripped off from Greg Hyland):
"So I thought, nobody gets to know the real Boba Fett. Y'know, what does he do in his spare time? So I thought, I'd write a novel about it. I figure he watches a lot of TV when he's not chasing bounties."

Note the unhealthy fixation with irrelevant trivia and the forcing of such information on those who have no interest in it.

Here's a quote from a healthy, socially competant fan....

er... well,... pretty much this whole thread.

[Dex1138]

That's what I'm talkin bout, Willis.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

another difference is this undeniable fact

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

I had a thought about Anakin and Luke as young men...
Both whiney, arrogent jerks... basically know it all punks...

the Difference is that Ben and Yoda manged to drum a lot of compassion in him, while they ignored Anakins need for love and compassion. Basically they learned from their mistakes...

[Entsuropi]

Well...

Luke was eager, and willing to learn, but consider how.. frivilous the whole thing must have seemed - learn to pick up rocks from a little green guy? - while your friends are out fighting and dying. I think his impatience and frustration is justified in that situation.

Anakin is just a self impressed little brat.