Gun books

[Entsuropi]

I feel compelled to note the existance of the 'Big Bang mostly illustrated guide to firearms'. It has rules for Fudge, D20 modern and a couple other random systems. And it has lots of guns. Its a .pdf file, buyable from here in several installments. One is the iraqi war one (all brit, american, iraqi and australian guns - ours are moderately crap). Another is the early military guns one - stuff like winchesters. It is rather wierd - there is no mp5 listed, in any of them, but it has all the next gen rifles listed in one installment. It is full of black and white photographs.

[Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock]

You're right Fell, there are some that would like the "RPG" equivelant of WWII weponry. And not just firearms, but also the artillery and other man power used.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

One wonders if, in fact, that's not what WotC planned in the first place, so didn't put it in the weapons locker in order to inspire more interest in a specific WWII release.

[Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock]

You know SE, I really don't think thats what they're trying to do.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

you don't think WotC ever plans on doing a d20 WWII book?

[Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock]

They might. But if they did, they would most likely release it next year, being the 60th anniversary of the end of WWII. So  that is about a year away. I'd rather have it now. =P

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

ok, yeah, I'm just gonna leave it at that.

[Entsuropi]

Just get GURPS WW2. Good books. Makes for fun gameplay.

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

Gurps WWII is a fantastic historical book, but playing against the backdrop of WWII isnt my idea of fun.

"ok the ramp on your LST drops just in time for your squad to get smeared by the presighted machineguns on the beach,... people are exploding all around you what are you going to do?"

"Uh I shoot the nearest Jap."

"ok roll 3d6!"

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

yeah, if you play it that way. BUt that would be the same as fantasy.

"The dragon breathes fire. YOu all burn to a crisp."

Or science fiction. "A well aimed missile punctures the hull of your ship. Air rushes out. Everyone implodes."

you can do special missions, etc, you know. Like Medal of Honor. Or any one of a dozen other WWII video games.

[Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock]

Yeah, that'd be totally dumb to role-play missions like Overlord. Maybe the paratrooping behind enemy lines in Normandy to light the paths for the paratroopers.

[Entsuropi]

Well, we played a game with 12 players, where we were paraglider troops and fought our way through a small part of normandy.

Another game it was 2 PC's, 10 or so NPC's storming a nazi compound after a paradrop. WW2 is a great combat setting since if a character dies, you just use another squaddie

[Fellfrosch]

WW2 is a great setting for Commando missions, like The Dirty Dozen.

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

I know, I was being ironicle.
But the scope of WWII is easy to lose if you just do Commando Missions like the Dirty Dozen. Remember that most WWII movies (Patton is a good example) have more than a healthy dose of Combat.
Id give mad props to someone who wanted to do a holocaust style RPG where the PC's are all Jews trying to escape the third reich.
Of course the Great Escape would be a cool setting too.
I guess my problem with WWII games is that only a few GMs really do the research to pull it off.
A WWII game I did think was great was Pinnicles Weird Wars series. I like the idea of Haunted tanks and NAZI werewolves.