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[Lieutenant Kije]

Do you believe everything Hollywood tells you?  We only hear about the unsuccessful ones, as the victims live to tell the tale.

Anyways, I'm still going for pizza.  

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

Who do you think RUNS hollywood?

And bring me a pepperoni with the pepperonis just a little bit crispy. I love that, it's so perky.

[Gemm: Rock & Roll Star; Born to Rock]

I'll give you coy, Dr. Roy! Anything perky about that? If so, then I'll take a heaping helpful of whatever it is thats in my oven.

[Lieutenant Kije]

So wait - am I still working for you, or is this just a little bit crispy favor that I'm doing, Saint?

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

I'm not sure. I just want pizza.
But today is free pizza day at work (haven't found any other work yet), so I'm sure I'll be satiated.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

speaking of Donald O'Connor, my wife has convinced my daughters that Singin' in the Rain is their favorite movie. At first it was just Elizabeth, begging for it. The first time she did i turned to my wife and, resigning any efforts to keep her from being so girly, I proclaimed "Fine, Sarah's mine." At which point Sarah started singing "happy 'gain! I'm Sing in Rain!" sigh. Maybe Rachael will follow in my footsteps.

[Fellfrosch]

Singin' in the Rain is hardly a girly movie. If it had Fred Astaire instead of Gene Kelly, then yeah.

[House of Mustard]

Except for that big stupid dream sequence with Cyd Charise.  That was pretty girly.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

Yeah, sorry, anything with dancing and singing,... girly.

Take, for example, the probably least potentially girly of all musicals: West Side Story. You've got 2 gangs who want to cut th' **** outta the others' face. You've got at least 2 murders. Good stuff right?
Wrong. Who the heck is scared of two gangs prancing down the street? Instead of fighting, they do ballet? What? "Stay cooly cool boy" hardly enhances my sense of their alpha status. Feh.

[House of Mustard]

I think I would be doubly afraid if a gang member was doing ballet.  Not only is he an evildoer, but he's a creepy and wierd evildoer.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

I don't know why that should scare you. Gemm is a creepy and weird-doer as well.

[House of Mustard]

But can he dance?

[Fellfrosch]

Granted, the dancing gang members in West Side Story swing toward the ridiculous more than once, but you have to consider their tough thugness in the context of their time period. The way they dressed and acted was pretty scary for the early fifties. If nothing else, a lot of the trappings of that show have come to define american subculture: for example, Stephen Sondheim and Larry Gelbart thought that "cool" would be a neat pseudo-slang for the kids to use (they avoided using real slang for the show), and look how far that little phrase has come.

But that's not the real issue. Saying that shows with singing and dancing are girly is like saying that books with pictures in them (say, comics) are childish. You of all people should know that it's both unintelligent and uncultured to negate an entire genre of art simply because of it's manner of presentation.

[The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers]

pfft.. You must like girly dancing movies.

[Entsuropi]

Of course he does. He's an old fart.