A (10:20:13 PM): ok haha
M (10:21:54 PM): through prolonged cultivation the essence can transcend the body, not so much in a magical immortal way, but in that the nature of the person remains imprinted on the world forever, the world itself(or more likely a group of people) become the driving force(anima) that powers the continued existance and evolution of the persons spirit
A (10:22:34 PM): hm
M (10:23:23 PM): we(not physically) are the remenants of people who's souls did not die with their bodies and those fragments have coalesed to create something bigger than themselves people who do not truly die are the people who make up the consciousness of the world, the people who become part of the universal ideas and thoughts and feelings of everyone. to avoid soul death by becoming part of a collective planetary soul, not even planetary, universal. the spirit of kindness, the essence of courage, must surely exist in all societies terrestrial or otherwise. the point is souls are engines of creations, they power and control bodies to give shape to the universe. any questions, objections, or thoughts at all?
A (10:28:37 PM): i think you have some good ideas
M (10:28:56 PM): you don't disaggree? at all?
A (10:30:08 PM): well, not necessarily i mean, if thats what you believe than thats cool
M (10:30:37 PM): haha
A (10:30:47 PM): but i dont think its unbelievable or anything haha
M (10:31:24 PM): well I'm trying to look at this from a perspective devoid of science and religion. because consciousness is merely an emergent property of the body whereas thought itself is consciousness of the soul, or byproduct of the spirit more likely. but I don't think you retain consciousness when you die. I think consciousness and being aware only happens in a body
A (10:33:37 PM): ye
M (10:33:38 PM): but the unconscious is immortal
A (10:33:39 PM): yea
M (10:34:04 PM): the soul that doesn't die with the body is not conscious it doesnt know what it is, but it still exists. you know how they say a person isn't gone unless you forget them
A(10:35:11 PM): yea
M (10:35:20 PM): and how "yeah they always used to do that" etc, when a person is remebered or someone references the workings of someones spirit it is because that persons soul still exists, a fragment of it is embedded in the conscious of other people and if lasts long enough it is incorporated into their own soul
A (10:36:51 PM): hm ya
M (10:37:42 PM): which is why I say we(not physically) are partially the result of a collective universal soul(morals perspectives etc) the past, all of history, all the memories , those are the soul of the universe
A(10:40:36 PM): ahaha thats cool XD max, i like how you think :-D lol
M (10:42:25 PM): all souls have the potential to be part of the lets say origin and durin your life is when you imprint yourself on the universe by becoming part of it so when you die you don't really die, just sort of lose weight. but the way to develop the the soul i think has to do with identifying and confronting your essence. the anima is what gives form to the essence and drives the spirit into life. anima=purpose essence=motivation spirit=execution, the purpose is what you need to do, why you exist, your essence is the basis of your being the one word definition of a person, and the spirit is what you do, the soul is how you do it. so in a sense, your soul is you style. style is the most important thing in life a person is defined by what they do, but it is the style that defines the doing
A (10:50:26 PM): yea
M (10:51:35 PM): i think I'll call it "the theory of ethereal pin-stripes"
A (10:52:10 PM): haha
M (10:53:00 PM): told you it was a doozy
A (10:53:29 PM): lol its cool
So I hope you enjoyed that.
