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Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« Reply #75 on: October 07, 2010, 02:00:04 AM »
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The Blade Szeth already carried was curse enough.
I feel that the wording of this sentence, taking into account the context of the chapter and Szeth's view on shardblades is that all shardblades are a curse, and that his (while being special) is cursed for the reason that it is so easy to kill with it, not that he may of made it out of his trusted friend and companion [insert name] the honourspren.

It could mean both.

Sorry if I sound unnecessarily argumentative, but that's a stretch. The sentence means that Szeth considers it a curse to wield a Shardblade. To extend that meaning to say "Shardblades are cursed" is putting words in his mouth. He doesn't say why he considers it a curse to bear a Shardblade, but I think it fairly obvious from his thoughts and feelings that it's because it enables him to kill so many people. He makes it clear that he wants someone to kill him, but the combination of his Surgebinding and Shardblade have so far made that impossible.
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Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« Reply #76 on: October 07, 2010, 02:18:11 AM »
How is that a stretch?  There's a lot of room for Shardblades to not be what we think they are.  Especially with Syl's only documented encounter with a Shardblade going the way it did.  I'm just proposing an idea that, to me, fits the information we have.
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Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« Reply #77 on: October 07, 2010, 02:22:27 AM »
How is that a stretch?  There's a lot of room for Shardblades to not be what we think they are.  Especially with Syl's only documented encounter with a Shardblade going the way it did.  I'm just proposing an idea that, to me, fits the information we have.

I wasn't disputing your theory so much as the statement that Szeth thinks his Blade is cursed. From where I'm sitting, that just isn't true.
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Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« Reply #78 on: October 07, 2010, 02:40:26 AM »
I never said he thinks it's cursed in a literal sense.  We know he hates the thing but we don't know how many reasons could be behind that.
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Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« Reply #79 on: October 07, 2010, 03:19:17 AM »
Wouldn't it make more sense to have it be UU?
I know you mean that as double U, but in English what W really is is a very short U sound. Putting two Us would make it seem like a long U sound.
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Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« Reply #80 on: October 07, 2010, 03:30:56 AM »
I know, that was me trying to be funny. :P
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Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« Reply #81 on: October 07, 2010, 01:54:08 PM »
How is that a stretch?  There's a lot of room for Shardblades to not be what we think they are.  Especially with Syl's only documented encounter with a Shardblade going the way it did.  I'm just proposing an idea that, to me, fits the information we have.

I wasn't disputing your theory so much as the statement that Szeth thinks his Blade is cursed. From where I'm sitting, that just isn't true.

WoK pg. 34
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He left the King's shardblade; he had no use for it. The Blade Szeth already carried was curse enough.

So maybe the Blade isn't cursed, it's the fact that Szeth has to carry it that is the curse.

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Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« Reply #82 on: October 07, 2010, 02:01:59 PM »
WoK pg. 34
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He left the King's shardblade; he had no use for it. The Blade Szeth already carried was curse enough.

So maybe the Blade isn't cursed, it's the fact that Szeth has to carry it that is the curse.

Szeth sees carrying the blade as a curse.

Edit: I wasn't sure here if you were implying the carrying the blade is Szeth's curse, or it is a curse to carry a blade. (They sound the same but they imply different things.
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Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« Reply #83 on: October 07, 2010, 02:25:38 PM »
Just checking out the translations of the second page from Navani's sketchbook. Emotion braclet? Reminds me of Lie To Me. I hope we see some interesting applications of this fabrial later in the series. Could be very powerful tool to use in the game of politics. I can just imagine its uses now  ;D mwhahahaha
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Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« Reply #84 on: October 07, 2010, 03:38:52 PM »
Is it possible that the gems in shardblades have death spren trapped inside?

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Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« Reply #85 on: October 07, 2010, 07:39:09 PM »
Is it possible that the gems in shardblades have death spren trapped inside?

That would make them devilishly difficult and dangerous to make. Apparently, only those very near death can see deathspren. So you'd have to bring yourself to the brink of death every time you made a new Blade? Yikes. Well, it could be. Still, yikes.
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Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« Reply #86 on: October 08, 2010, 03:44:33 AM »
Is it possible that the gems in shardblades have death spren trapped inside?

That would make them devilishly difficult and dangerous to make. Apparently, only those very near death can see deathspren. So you'd have to bring yourself to the brink of death every time you made a new Blade? Yikes. Well, it could be. Still, yikes.

Or just kill someone else.  Like your father.

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Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« Reply #87 on: October 08, 2010, 04:56:20 AM »
Is it possible that the gems in shardblades have death spren trapped inside?

That would make them devilishly difficult and dangerous to make. Apparently, only those very near death can see deathspren. So you'd have to bring yourself to the brink of death every time you made a new Blade? Yikes. Well, it could be. Still, yikes.

Or just kill someone else.  Like your father.

Murder someone to make a sword that kills easily. Or maybe cause a massacre is needed to get a shardblade, considering how powerful it is. But I think having someone sacrifice themselves would be stronger again.
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Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« Reply #88 on: October 08, 2010, 07:16:41 AM »
If you had the capability to cause a massacre without a Shardblade, I hardly think you'd need one.
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Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« Reply #89 on: October 08, 2010, 07:19:19 AM »
True, but people would still do it.
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