Larasium?

[Fireborn]

The concept of an atium misting doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
If your ability to be an allomancer comes from the amount of preservation you have letting you tap into its power, and the burning of atium is fueling allomancy through concentrated ruin; does it seem logical that the power of preservation would produce something that doesn't actually tap into preservation's power at all, but, instead, ruin's?
I'm pretty sure that's not a run-on sentence.

[Rezo]

That's true, I never thought about it like this. I think we should dig into this.

[Omelethead]

The concept of an atium misting doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
If your ability to be an allomancer comes from the amount of preservation you have letting you tap into its power, and the burning of atium is fueling allomancy through concentrated ruin; does it seem logical that the power of preservation would produce something that doesn't actually tap into preservation's power at all, but, instead, ruin's?
I'm pretty sure that's not a run-on sentence.

I agree. I might accept it a little easier if an Atium Misting was actually just a Temporal metal misting of some sort, but even then, it doesn't quite fit.

[Patriotic Kaz]

It makes sense because Preservation stole Ruin's body and by hiding it in the earth Leras must have incorporated it into his own magic. I mean Leras had Ati's body so he could do anything with it except destroy it, why not make it into a metal (easier to hide it that way).

[Rezo]

But the fact that it was stolen doesn't change it's power itself, does it? If it would, then Atium would be totally useless for Ruin.
But, if you think about it, it shouldn't be a problem. Allomancy doesn't use the power of Preservation, but instead it's just created by it. Preservation's and Ruin's power doesn't really collide then - you just burn the metal and release the power kept in it. Be it any kind of power.

[Ari54]

But the fact that it was stolen doesn't change it's power itself, does it? If it would, then Atium would be totally useless for Ruin.
But, if you think about it, it shouldn't be a problem. Allomancy doesn't use the power of Preservation, but instead it's just created by it. Preservation's and Ruin's power doesn't really collide then - you just burn the metal and release the power kept in it. Be it any kind of power.

Allomancy is described in the books as fueled by Preservation's body. I'm not sure where you get that it doesn't use the power of Preservation- it's just an up-front use.

[Rezo]

Must re-read the HoA and probably the rest too, I'm making more and more mistakes
Sorry, and thanks for pointing it out.

But anyway, you can't disagree that burning atium have nothing to do with powering yourself with Preservation.

[Fireborn]

But the fact that it was stolen doesn't change it's power itself, does it? If it would, then Atium would be totally useless for Ruin.
But, if you think about it, it shouldn't be a problem. Allomancy doesn't use the power of Preservation, but instead it's just created by it. Preservation's and Ruin's power doesn't really collide then - you just burn the metal and release the power kept in it. Be it any kind of power.

Allomancy is described in the books as fueled by Preservation's body. I'm not sure where you get that it doesn't use the power of Preservation- it's just an up-front use.

Allomancy is of Preservation, but Atium is concentrated Ruin.  A Mistborn is able to use Atium because they can use every metal, but what I'm pointing out is that why would it work that Preservation's power create the ability to only use a metal that is distinctly not of Preservation?

[Elusive Fehler]

I think that Brandon has said that Leras actually changed the magic system, making Atium part of the Table and shifting off the other(normal) Temporal metals.

[Link von Kelsier Harvey XXIV]

Where'd ya hear that?

[Chaos]

I think that Brandon has said that Leras actually changed the magic system, making Atium part of the Table and shifting off the other(normal) Temporal metals.

This is a true statement, but this applies to what metals are actually on the table. It doesn't address the open of question of Atium and how Allomancer's burn it.

[Renoard]

It seemed a slight plot hole for both Ruin and Preservation to have bodies/power that condenses into metal.  But I think Brandon tried to address that by having Sazed point out that they were "two sides of one coin."  But as for burning Atium, Some previously pointed out that Larasium or Snapping is just a catalyst that prepares the body to burn metals.  Once the ability exists, the metal is just a matter of which metals are sources of power.

The question that occurs to me is whether copper, tin, iron, zinc and the other allomantic, elemental metals are the "bodies" of other slivers.

[Fireborn]

But it's the wrong power.  Preservation creating a Misting that can only use a power not of him?  Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Well, the biggest distinction between the God Metals (Atium and Lerasium) and the others is not only their source, but also that Atium and Lerasium were invented solely for Mistborn.

[Rezo]

But it's the wrong power.  Preservation creating a Misting that can only use a power not of him?  Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Well, the biggest distinction between the God Metals (Atium and Lerasium) and the others is not only their source, but also that Atium and Lerasium were invented solely for Mistborn.

But you missed one thing - ANYBODY can burn Larasium.

[Chaos]

But it's the wrong power.  Preservation creating a Misting that can only use a power not of him?  Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Well, the biggest distinction between the God Metals (Atium and Lerasium) and the others is not only their source, but also that Atium and Lerasium were invented solely for Mistborn.

But you missed one thing - ANYBODY can burn Larasium.

A logical question, then, would be what would happen if a non-Allomancer ate atium much in the same manner that someone takes lerasium.