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Re: Mistborn 3 Annotations Discussion *Spoilers*
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2009, 05:36:41 AM »
As I read your comment, I came up with an idea.

Atium, you see, has both temporal aspects and mental aspects. You can see into the future, and your brain can process the information more effectively (I would also assume that it gives you a bit more Ruin, compared with the body's natural Ruin/Preservation, just like lerasium gives you a better link to Preservation. However, unlike Preservation which gives you a clear magical effect, this Ruin-side effect may be more related to the violence one inflicts with atium, as Sazed notes in the epigraphs of MB3).

As alloyed-atium grants expanded mental and temporal aspects, and there are two clear components in atium's Allomantic effect, I think that the converse is true for lerasium. Its Allomantic power is physical and enhancement in nature, most likely.

That's really interesting, actually. Whereas normal metals have a pair in the same quadrant, like gold and electrum, atium and lerasium are on opposite halves of the metal wheel.

So, if atium grants invincibility through mental/temporal means, which in effect it does (brings a whole new meaning to god metal, yes?), lerasium may grant invincibility via physical/enhancement methods. That seems really plausible to me.

If this is true, there better be a frickin' lerasium vs. atium burning battle in a later Mistborn trilogy, or I will be extremely upset. That would be all kinds of awesome.

I would also like to agree with this notion.  This might also explain why Elend managed to recover from the fatal wound like he did.  He (very temporarily) had super-pewter, which would go a long way towards healing him, or at least stopping him from dying.
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Re: Mistborn 3 Annotations Discussion *Spoilers*
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2009, 05:57:23 AM »
The Lerasium-side effect of becoming a mistborn makes sense. After all, doesn't Atium make you an incredible killing machine (as Sazed mentions in one of the epitaphs).

But what this leads me to wonder is what Lerasium would do as a Spike. Since Atium does something specific in Allomancy, it stands to reason, that a Lerasium Spike would do something specific too. (Although you'd have to be pretty stupid to make a spike out of it instead of just burning it)
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Re: Mistborn 3 Annotations Discussion *Spoilers*
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2009, 06:00:11 AM »
As I read your comment, I came up with an idea.

Atium, you see, has both temporal aspects and mental aspects. You can see into the future, and your brain can process the information more effectively (I would also assume that it gives you a bit more Ruin, compared with the body's natural Ruin/Preservation, just like lerasium gives you a better link to Preservation. However, unlike Preservation which gives you a clear magical effect, this Ruin-side effect may be more related to the violence one inflicts with atium, as Sazed notes in the epigraphs of MB3).

As alloyed-atium grants expanded mental and temporal aspects, and there are two clear components in atium's Allomantic effect, I think that the converse is true for lerasium. Its Allomantic power is physical and enhancement in nature, most likely.

That's really interesting, actually. Whereas normal metals have a pair in the same quadrant, like gold and electrum, atium and lerasium are on opposite halves of the metal wheel.

So, if atium grants invincibility through mental/temporal means, which in effect it does (brings a whole new meaning to god metal, yes?), lerasium may grant invincibility via physical/enhancement methods. That seems really plausible to me.

If this is true, there better be a frickin' lerasium vs. atium burning battle in a later Mistborn trilogy, or I will be extremely upset. That would be all kinds of awesome.

I would also like to agree with this notion.  This might also explain why Elend managed to recover from the fatal wound like he did.  He (very temporarily) had super-pewter, which would go a long way towards healing him, or at least stopping him from dying.

I had the same thought as well.

The Lerasium-side effect of becoming a mistborn makes sense. After all, doesn't Atium make you an incredible killing machine (as Sazed mentions in one of the epitaphs).

But what this leads me to wonder is what Lerasium would do as a Spike. Since Atium does something specific in Allomancy, it stands to reason, that a Lerasium Spike would do something specific too. (Although you'd have to be pretty stupid to make a spike out of it instead of just burning it)

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Re: Mistborn 3 Annotations Discussion *Spoilers*
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2009, 06:21:10 AM »
It's not stupid if done in the name of science and knowledge!!!! :P you can excuse anything under that phrase.... and we have!!!!
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Re: Mistborn 3 Annotations Discussion *Spoilers*
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2009, 11:22:22 AM »
The Lerasium-side effect of becoming a mistborn makes sense. After all, doesn't Atium make you an incredible killing machine (as Sazed mentions in one of the epitaphs).

But what this leads me to wonder is what Lerasium would do as a Spike. Since Atium does something specific in Allomancy, it stands to reason, that a Lerasium Spike would do something specific too. (Although you'd have to be pretty stupid to make a spike out of it instead of just burning it)

Perhaps it could steal all of a person's powers, feruchemy and mistborn included? *shrug*

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Re: Mistborn 3 Annotations Discussion *Spoilers*
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2009, 04:57:24 PM »
Perhaps [Lerasium] could steal all of a person's powers, feruchemy and mistborn included? *shrug*

No, a previous annotation already said that Atium does for all the powers.  Unless you mean Lerasium could steal more than one power at a time.

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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2009, 12:36:56 AM »
I just got back from his signing with Inquisitor and I asked B.S. what a lerasium spike would do. He decided to answer as vaguely as possible, it apparently makes you a mistborn with the addition of effects outside the three magic systems which he wouldn't elaborate on. As i left he told Harriet that he wanted to RAFO me but that was the first deep question about one of his books....


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Re: Mistborn 3 Annotations Discussion *Spoilers*
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2009, 12:44:15 AM »
As i left he told Harriet that he wanted to RAFO me but that was the first deep question about one of his books....

Sad! It's not like there aren't plenty of questions to be asked!

Though, granted, people are kind of obsessing over TGS right now....
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Re: Mistborn 3 Annotations Discussion *Spoilers*
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2009, 01:41:15 AM »
It must make you a Mistborn because it's giving you that same jolt of Preservation as before.
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2009, 03:04:15 AM »
it makes you more than mistborn the question is what?
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Re: Mistborn 3 Annotations Discussion *Spoilers*
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2009, 06:30:22 AM »
I thought we had reached a consensus that the Atium we see the characters use was the Electrum Alloy form?

I thought myself so clever for coming up with this theory.

At this point I am in a position where I could confirm it or deny it.

However, my position also means that I must do no such thing.

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Re: Mistborn 3 Annotations Discussion *Spoilers*
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2009, 08:07:58 AM »
I thought we had reached a consensus that the Atium we see the characters use was the Electrum Alloy form?

I thought myself so clever for coming up with this theory.

At this point I am in a position where I could confirm it or deny it.

However, my position also means that I must do no such thing.

Mwa ha ha ha ha.

You enjoy this way too much :P
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Re: Mistborn 3 Annotations Discussion *Spoilers*
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2009, 08:37:22 PM »
Ok, so maybe I'm over thinking this. But with the number 16 thing and the Mist Sickness, etc. etc. According to the metal chart it doesn't make sense that there would be atium Mistings as one of the 16... which one was left out?? And does that mean there were lerasium Mistings? Where were they? What would they do?

As i left he told Harriet that he wanted to RAFO me but that was the first deep question about one of his books....

Sad! It's not like there aren't plenty of questions to be asked!

Though, granted, people are kind of obsessing over TGS right now....

=( I went to the Chicago signing and I was so excited I forgot all my questions. Lol.
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Re: Mistborn 3 Annotations Discussion *Spoilers*
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2009, 08:41:42 PM »
Ok, so maybe I'm over thinking this. But with the number 16 thing and the Mist Sickness, etc. etc. According to the metal chart it doesn't make sense that there would be atium Mistings as one of the 16... which one was left out?? And does that mean there were lerasium Mistings? Where were they? What would they do?

Preservation switched cadmium and bendalloy for atium and malatium. It was a temporary switch, and he did it to cadmium because it was the rarest of the sixteen metals on Scadrial, so it would be unlikely people would inadvertently discover it.

Now, lerasium mistings. That's a much more interesting question.
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Re: Mistborn 3 Annotations Discussion *Spoilers*
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2009, 08:50:28 PM »
Now, lerasium mistings. That's a much more interesting question.

Heh, well, if you're gonna be a misting, may as well be one that will make you a "misting" for all of 10 seconds after you find out. :P

But yeah, that is an interesting idea...
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