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Re: Male Prom Queen
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2009, 09:29:36 PM »
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm with Kaz (before he got his ad-hom on). This is kind of stupid. The effeminate gay man is a stereotype I would think the gay community would like to shake off. If you really want to "challenge traditional gender roles and popularity" put the tiara on a straight man. If a man can be simultaneously effeminate enough to accept the title of prom queen and popular enough to win it, while still being straight—then, perhaps, we will have accomplished something.
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Re: Male Prom Queen
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2009, 09:37:35 PM »
But I doubt many straight men would actually want to do that–and if they did, they'd  probably be doing it for kicks.
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Re: Male Prom Queen
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2009, 09:58:49 PM »
< wishes he was still in high school to fufill all of those requirments... effiminate, popular, straight, tired of gender stereotyopes.. >I also cook, sew, have been in several choirs, watch sappy romances and I am married (to a woman) with 4 beautiful children.  But I agree that the effeminate gay man is a stereotype, but only because we attribute those qualities with women. If we just looked at everyone as individuals then you wouldn't be able to call anyone "effeminate" or "masculine".
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Re: Male Prom Queen
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2009, 04:29:44 PM »
Hmm....  I guess I just don't understand why it would be a big deal at all. It is just a fun popularity contest for high school students, not a political or social movement. I think the only time I actually voted was when we had a special needs couple running and I just thought it was sweet because you could tell it meant so much to them when they won.

The only issue I see with this is just a mater of fairness and simplicity. With the Prom King and Queen it sets itself up for a winner from both sexes as I would see the two terms as pretty interchangeable in modern society. And then, if the Prom King wants to wear a dress or whatever else, more power to him.  :-\

Aw, well. It doesn't really matter to me, so congrats on getting your ten seconds of fame, what-ever-your-name-was!
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Re: Male Prom Queen
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2009, 07:39:52 PM »
I don't think it's about fame. I think it's about making progress against sexual discrimination.
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Re: Male Prom Queen
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2009, 08:49:11 PM »
So now it is discriminatory to call a boy a boy and a girl a girl? Isn't that just who they are?
At least that is how I see it. But then, I'm old school and have always been happy to be Queen and let the boys be King.  :-\
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Re: Male Prom Queen
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2009, 08:53:55 PM »
That' snot what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is, in many places, a gay person would not be elected to any position of importance at all because of the discrimination against homosexuals. So it is progress for a gay man to be elected to a position many would consider "gay" by the general populace (even more importantly, the kids).
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Re: Male Prom Queen
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2009, 09:02:21 PM »
Oh, okay. I can agree with that. I just don't see why he wanted to be Queen rather than King other than for the shock factor.
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Re: Male Prom Queen
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2009, 09:03:24 PM »
Are you saying that 'shock factor' was definitely one of his reasons for becoming Queen? I actually think the opposite.…
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Re: Male Prom Queen
« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2009, 09:07:39 PM »
I actually think that was the motivation gay or not he is seeking attention which is common among young people... unfortunately they can't always see the difference between negative and positive attention
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Re: Male Prom Queen
« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2009, 09:10:02 PM »
Just wondering…how is that negative attention?

I disagree, Kaz. I think the (main…?) reason he ran for Prom Queen instead of King was that he felt he associated more with the archetype of a "queen" than a "king."
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Re: Male Prom Queen
« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2009, 10:44:28 PM »
Since when has gender become an archetype? The reason they came up with "king" and "queen" was for  classifying them as a male or female. This guy, no matter how gay he wants to be, is always going to be a man! not a female! I think it's wrong that a man could decide to be a woman just because he feels that way.
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Re: Male Prom Queen
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2009, 10:45:51 PM »
ONCE AGAIN, I'm pretty sure Sergio DOES NOT want to become a woman. He even said, "I don't want to be a girl; I just want to be myself."
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Re: Male Prom Queen
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2009, 01:18:07 PM »
I guess the dude just feels like a Queen. *heh*
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Re: Male Prom Queen
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2009, 01:55:02 PM »
Quote from: Shard on June 03, 2009, 01:18:07 PM
I guess the dude just feels like a Queen. *heh*

Dude looks like a lady. Yeah, yeah.

i think the point they're making, shag, is that if he wasn't just trying to get attention from the idea of "look at me, i'm a guy who was voted queen!" he would have wanted to be called king, instead, so that there would have been 2 prom kings, since as people have been saying, queen if for females, and males are called kings. They aren't saying he actually WANTS to be a woman, but by taking the female title, is just vying for attention.
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