The Way of Kings : pre-release

[Miyabi]

It's not too hard.  You just make the hissy s sound with the buzzy z sound at the same time. ha ha.

That's actually impossible to do. Z is what is called a "voiced" version of the same sound as S- that is, you're making a buzzing sound in your throat while  pronouncing it. It's an on/off thing, so you can't do both at once unless you are blessed with two heads.

You like change the way you position your teeth.  I promise you can do it. xD  Also a weird thing with your tongue.  It's like instead of using air to make the hiss you use the buzz to make the hiss.

[Creative_Vortx]

It's not too hard.  You just make the hissy s sound with the buzzy z sound at the same time. ha ha.

That's actually impossible to do. Z is what is called a "voiced" version of the same sound as S- that is, you're making a buzzing sound in your throat while  pronouncing it. It's an on/off thing, so you can't do both at once unless you are blessed with two heads.

You like change the way you position your teeth.  I promise you can do it. xD  Also a weird thing with your tongue.  It's like instead of using air to make the hiss you use the buzz to make the hiss.

Okay, now I'm convinced you are obsessed Miyabi. If you are taking hours to perfect your pronunciation of Szeth. I'm scared now. 

You like.. found a new way to SPEAK just for BS. 

[neiana]

It's not too hard.  You just make the hissy s sound with the buzzy z sound at the same time. ha ha.

That's actually impossible to do. Z is what is called a "voiced" version of the same sound as S- that is, you're making a buzzing sound in your throat while  pronouncing it. It's an on/off thing, so you can't do both at once unless you are blessed with two heads.

You like change the way you position your teeth.  I promise you can do it. xD  Also a weird thing with your tongue.  It's like instead of using air to make the hiss you use the buzz to make the hiss.

Okay, now I'm convinced you are obsessed Miyabi. If you are taking hours to perfect your pronunciation of Szeth. I'm scared now. 

You like.. found a new way to SPEAK just for BS. 

If I understand Miyabi, it's painfully easy.

[Ari54]

You like change the way you position your teeth.  I promise you can do it. xD  Also a weird thing with your tongue.  It's like instead of using air to make the hiss you use the buzz to make the hiss.

The difference between the sounds doesn't involve the teeth or the tongue, but maybe you're doing something different entirely, like making a 'Zh'* sound.

* IPA symbol for 'Zh' is [ʒ], and it's the sound at the end of the word massage.

edit: spelling

[zas678]

Like this?

Sssszzzeth. Zzzzseth. Zszszszszszszszzzsssss.

Oh now look what you've done. Now my keyboard is all wet. 

[Miyabi]

I really don't see why it's so hard.  I say it out loud I can distinctly hear both the z and the s sound. . . o.e  It doesn't sound like 'zh'. . . Maybe I'm making the "z" in the middle or back of my mouth?  Yeah, it's kind of like I'm not making the 'z' with my teeth, it's further back in my mouth.

[Ari54]

I really don't see why it's so hard.  I say it out loud I can distinctly hear both the z and the s sound. . . o.e  It doesn't sound like 'zh'. . . Maybe I'm making the "z" in the middle or back of my mouth?  Yeah, it's kind of like I'm not making the 'z' with my teeth, it's further back in my mouth.

As I mentioned above, it's impossible to both buzz your throat and not buzz it at the same time. I suppose you could also start out not buzzing it and transition to the voiced consonant, but that's not the same thing as saying them both at once. (and it makes you sound like an insect! )

[Peter Ahlstrom]

I have to side with Ari. Sure, it's possible to hear the s sound while you say the z sound. But that's because of area of articulation: the z sound is just the s sound with buzzing added. You ALWAYS make an s sound when you make a z sound. It's impossible to make a z sound without making an s sound. What the air does through your lips is the same; the only difference is what it does in the rest of your mouth.

However, it is also possible that you have idiosyncratic articulation. It is possible to make a sound that sounds pretty much the same while using a different articulation point. It's possible that you typically use different articulation points when you say s from the ones you use to say z, and what you're doing now is using the same articulation point instead. That might make it sound to you like you're making both sounds at once.

[Miyabi]

I think I'm doing what you said Peter, actually I'm pretty sure that's what I'm doing I just suck at explaining it.

[Creative_Vortx]

I think I'm doing what you said Peter, actually I'm pretty sure that's what I'm doing I just suck at explaining it.

Ima stick with the theory that you have become obsessive and have modified your genes so that your mouth can now handle a whole new way of speaking.

 

[Ari54]

I think I'm doing what you said Peter, actually I'm pretty sure that's what I'm doing I just suck at explaining it.

Ima stick with the theory that you have become obsessive and have modified your genes so that your mouth can now handle a whole new way of speaking.

 

Either that or Miyabi has two voice boxes and is buzzing with one of them and not with the other.

[zas678]

I think I'm doing what you said Peter, actually I'm pretty sure that's what I'm doing I just suck at explaining it.

Ima stick with the theory that you have become obsessive and have modified your genes so that your mouth can now handle a whole new way of speaking.

 

You'd be surprised what some of us would do as fans of Brandon Sanderson.

I for one spent an entire afternoon learning to speak Eastern Slang. After all, Fanning of the wasing am I! 

[neiana]

Is it at all similar to Czar?

[firstRainbowRose]

Speaking of the eastern style being of the silver starred above the norm.

[Creative_Vortx]

I think I'm doing what you said Peter, actually I'm pretty sure that's what I'm doing I just suck at explaining it.

Ima stick with the theory that you have become obsessive and have modified your genes so that your mouth can now handle a whole new way of speaking.

 

You'd be surprised what some of us would do as fans of Brandon Sanderson.

I for one spent an entire afternoon learning to speak Eastern Slang. After all, Fanning of the wasing am I! 

Oh, I know. I've practiced drawing fluid Aons for days while I was reading Elantris over again.