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What do you think of Joseph Smith?
« on: April 23, 2009, 09:44:20 AM »
Is it true about the two versions thing and the translation?

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Re: What do you think of Joseph Smith?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2009, 10:03:02 AM »
Many people here would say yes, many would say no.

Apart from saying that, I'm going to stay out of this conversation.  I will let it be known that at the first sign of flaming, this thread will be locked.
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Re: What do you think of Joseph Smith?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 10:05:44 AM »
Your post is actually too vague for me to know what you're talking about...and I'm Mormon. ???
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Re: What do you think of Joseph Smith?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2009, 10:24:16 AM »
I just don't see what all the Mormon baiting has to do with speculative fiction and gaming.  This is the third thread started by the same person in the space of a week, for no purpose other than to stir hard feelings.  I just don't see why this adds value to the forum, Especially given that maybe 80% of the registered users are Mormon. . .
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Re: What do you think of Joseph Smith?
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2009, 10:27:54 AM »
I don't think it's that high.

I think a lot of it is that people read Sanderson, enjoy his writing, find out he's a Mormon,  and then come here because they're curious to see what Mormons are like (or how they respond to baiting.  =ş) .  Of course, this is speculation on my part, but it doesn't seem unlikely.
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Re: What do you think of Joseph Smith?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2009, 06:53:44 PM »
I think he's talking about the 116 pages.

Ever wonder why the book of Mosiah doesn't have a summary at the beginning like the other books do? That's because the first 2 chapters were part of what was lost. Manuscript page 117 includes the end of a sentence at the top of the page, and then chapter 3 (our chapter 1) starts. The book summaries were on the golden plates themselves rather than being added later.
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Re: What do you think of Joseph Smith?
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2009, 07:13:25 PM »
I would disagree with you do to my christian upbringing Ookla, and yes i know you say you are a Christan denomination but most Christians do not accept that you are and i truly believe the beliefs are far too different for you to be a branch of the faith. Anyways i believe the bible is false to begin with so my views on this don't really matter...
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Re: What do you think of Joseph Smith?
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2009, 07:28:52 PM »
Disagree with what? I'm not sure your post is in response to what I actually wrote.
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Re: What do you think of Joseph Smith?
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2009, 07:54:53 PM »
I was wondering the same thing, actually...
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Re: What do you think of Joseph Smith?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2009, 08:58:19 PM »
I disagree with the fact that those chapters are part of the original authors writings...sorry you think faster than you type and lose track...
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Re: What do you think of Joseph Smith?
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2009, 09:04:33 PM »
You mean the summaries? They were mostly written by Mormon, not the author of the book they summarize, so I guess you could say they weren't written by the "original" author.
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Re: What do you think of Joseph Smith?
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2009, 09:05:19 PM »
I mean the "lost chapters"
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Re: What do you think of Joseph Smith?
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2009, 09:08:53 PM »
Well, now I'm even more confused. In what sense were the lost 116 pages "not written by the original author"?
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Re: What do you think of Joseph Smith?
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2009, 09:11:33 PM »
Virtually christians will argue that the book of mormon was not written by the original prophets/ disciples and instead written at a later date and has no relation to the canon.
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Re: What do you think of Joseph Smith?
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2009, 09:13:31 PM »
Maybe he just means that he thinks Joseph Smith wrote the whole thing himself, both the 116 pages and everything else. [EDIT: He posted before I hit submit.

Kaz, I didn't say anything about prophets or disciples or the canon, so you weren't responding to what I was talking about. :)]
You mean the summaries? They were mostly written by Mormon, not the author of the book they summarize, so I guess you could say they weren't written by the "original" author.
Well, yes, except the Small Plates ones which were written by the authors (see the end of 1 Nephi's summary). But most of the non-dialogue/non-letter-quote words of Mormon's  books were written by Mormon himself.
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