Author Topic: *SPOILERS Official Hero of Ages Spoilers Thread. Includes Q&A w/Brandon** (Read 362837 times)

Hero of Ages · « **Reply #480 on:** November 17, 2008, 06:47:24 PM »

So, since there was at least a year between WoA and HoA, and Vin and El were married. Were there any bundles of joy for them??

Peter Ahlstrom · « **Reply #481 on:** November 17, 2008, 08:16:27 PM »

That would have been mentioned in the book, surely.

happyman · « **Reply #482 on:** November 17, 2008, 08:29:14 PM »

I would have to agree with the others that all the shards have physical representations in the world. I also suspect that they are not all metallic. That seems to be a mistborn thing.

For instance, it would not be at all surprising to discover that some of the colors (perhaps the dies?) in Warbreaker are an aspect of Austre.

Incidentally, I would like to claim precedence for suggesting 16 shards, although it really isn't a huge leap.

Comatose · « **Reply #483 on:** November 17, 2008, 10:32:30 PM »

Perhaps the flowers that make the dies. I forget their name (Tears of...?). But I do think they are important, they reminded me of atium. Both only occur in one place (The tears in hallendren, atium in the pits), both are crucial major resourses, and have great economic value. They seem really similar.
So, Ruin and Preservation, Jaddeth and Domi, and Austre and the Shard in the Tears perhaps?

AvalonDreamer · « **Reply #484 on:** November 17, 2008, 10:52:53 PM »

Well, if Austre (Austere? Haven't read warbraker) is a Shard, it's opposition could be Vivid or something like that.

little wilson · « **Reply #485 on:** November 17, 2008, 11:05:05 PM »

It's also quite possible we haven't met Austre's opposition, assuming Austre IS a Shard. Since Austre is the God of Idris, maybe it's opposition is the God of Kuth and Huth--since that's where Vasher's headed at the end. Or I could be completely wrong.

Peter Ahlstrom · « **Reply #486 on:** November 18, 2008, 12:25:13 AM »

Quote from: Comatose on November 17, 2008, 10:32:30 PM

Perhaps the flowers that make the dies. I forget their name (Tears of...?). But I do think they are important, they reminded me of atium. Both only occur in one place (The tears in hallendren, atium in the pits), both are crucial major resourses, and have great economic value. They seem really similar.

I think you are on to something. Brandon said something earlier in the thread to which I replied mentioning the pool outside of Elantris—this could fit just as well.

GreenMonsta · « **Reply #487 on:** November 18, 2008, 12:41:38 AM »

Ok so I can finally read this thread.

I know I have been a bad fan and have only just now finished HoA. Even though I have owned it since the days of its release. give me some time to read the 33 pages of this thread and countless other pages of *spoiler* threads before I can catch up.

Miyabi · « **Reply #488 on:** November 18, 2008, 08:44:13 PM »

Quote from: PlantationMonsta on November 18, 2008, 12:41:38 AM

Ok so I can finally read this thread.

I know I have been a bad fan and have only just now finished HoA. Even though I have owned it since the days of its release. give me some time to read the 33 pages of this thread and countless other pages of *spoiler* threads before I can catch up.

You're not a bad fan for taking a long time to read a book. You just take longer than some of us who have no life and can just sit and read through. ha ha.

Plasman · « **Reply #489 on:** November 19, 2008, 01:44:14 AM »

Does a shard have to have an opposing shard? It is most likely the answer is yes, but there is always the possibility... maybe there can be more than 2 shards in opposition to each other at a time...

Peter Ahlstrom · « **Reply #490 on:** November 19, 2008, 02:00:22 AM »

I don't think we can necessarily generalize from the two shards we've seen and assume that the shards always come in opposed pairs.

Reaves · « **Reply #491 on:** November 19, 2008, 03:06:55 AM »

Yeah I kinda doubt that "Jaddeth" is a shard, otherwise why would the Dakhor monks use the Dor? Also isn't Jaddeth just a different name for the god that Sarene and Raoden believe in?

Mellington the loony Gold Misting · « **Reply #492 on:** November 19, 2008, 06:04:59 AM »

Quote from: Reaves on November 19, 2008, 03:06:55 AM

Yeah I kinda doubt that "Jaddeth" is a shard, otherwise why would the Dakhor monks use the Dor? Also isn't Jaddeth just a different name for the god that Sarene and Raoden believe in?

That was never really said - actually, something was even said that CONTRADICTS that.

While the religions originally split from a mother faith, worship of Jaddeth took over the seat of main deity in one branch at some unspecified point in time. Jaddeth was an older deity from an older but less powerful "pagan" religion - when they looked back at the really old "heretical" original of the great holy work about Wyrn, Jaddeth was a really minor deity of earth or underground.

Shadowkiller · « **Reply #493 on:** November 19, 2008, 06:55:58 AM »

Quote from: Mok Apple Pie on November 19, 2008, 02:00:22 AM

I don't think we can necessarily generalize from the two shards we've seen and assume that the shards always come in opposed pairs.

If we are to believe that the number 16 is a divine number, then we can also at least speculate Shard science based on the examples of 16 we have seen thus far(If we are assuming there are 16 Shards that is). With the Metals, there are 16 of them, each has an opposing metal, and they are grouped in fours by attribute. I don't think its a long shot to say this is a very plausible explanation for Shards as well.

Peter Ahlstrom · « **Reply #494 on:** November 19, 2008, 09:23:07 AM »

Except that Brandon says the pairing and grouping by fours aren't necessarily based on anything real but may only be how the allomancers have imperfectly classified things.

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