Author Topic: 12-01-08 Aspirations Chapters 1-7  (Read 5531 times)

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Re: 12-01-08 Aspirations Chapters 1-7
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2008, 11:16:01 PM »
Augh! My crits aren't that long are they? Sorry, I'll try to do better next time. :P

Sorry, I was trying to be funny.  It doesn't work all the time but I try it all the same.  I'm not trying to criticize at all.  Do as you will, please.
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Re: 12-01-08 Aspirations Chapters 1-7
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2008, 11:17:18 PM »
Haha, no, I was trying to be funny too. Clearly I'm the one who needs the humor lessons here. ::)

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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2008, 02:29:00 AM »
Well I feel as confused as your character about the Halloween party... but I'm guessing that comes next?

I love the way you've written this though. It's almost like I can hear him telling me the story. Really comes across as talking to the reader instead of at them.

There's a couple of aphostophe's missing here and there, and a your instead of a you're.... but other than that, grammar seems good too (nitpicky much).

Only thing is..... is he in America or England when he meets the man?

And the English don't speak like that :P Hehe. Just to rain on the parade even more. Sorry!!!!

Well, some English people do, but not all..... *hides*
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2008, 02:38:35 AM »
lmao!  He's in America, I could do a poor imitation speaking, but writing it, I can't spell half of it!
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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2008, 02:46:52 AM »
Hehe. You make it sound like a whole other language :P
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Re: 12-01-08 Aspirations Chapters 1-7
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2008, 08:46:55 PM »
I'd have to say, the pacing was interesting. Half of the time, I seemed to like the sporadic and fast-paced style, as it seemed to give you the same perspective as the MC. The other half of the time, though, it felt a bit too jumpy. Hard to follow at times.
   I'm going to agree with everyone else that the replay of the conversation was confusing. I was afraid that I'd printed out a second copy of that page, and it got mixed in with the rest, or something. I was confused.
   However, it is intriguing. I'd really like to know what is going on, and that's a good thing.
   The shortness of the chapters is nice, too.

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Re: 12-01-08 Aspirations Chapters 1-7
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2008, 09:05:28 PM »
That was a BIG question that I'd had.  Were the chapters too short?  I wasn't sure I had pulled it off correctly, but since no one seems to have a problem with it I must have done it right. ;D
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Re: 12-01-08 Aspirations Chapters 1-7
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2008, 11:33:08 PM »
I don't think chapter length is much of an issue unless its too long. The chapters are just a way to break up the book into recognizable chunks and prevent it from just being line after line of text. If you want those chunks to be smaller than "normal" thats fine.
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Re: 12-01-08 Aspirations Chapters 1-7
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2008, 02:57:25 AM »
Accents are tough to put on paper. Oddly enough, the English do speak... er... English (I think Hayley is biased). Two countries separated by a common language.

So in a written form their words would appear the same, but only the sound would be different. The big clue in writing English versus American versus Australian is word choice. That will give you a better visual (i.e. read) indication that this person's "not from 'round here."

Depending on where in the UK, one might here "cheers, mate" as opposed to "hello" or "what's up". When I speak to folks from the Southern US I get "how do, Mister Karl?" (yes, using the first name).

What became somethat confusing in your story is, if The Stranger was faking a Brit accent, then what was the bartender and cabbie speaking? Was that supposed to be Bostonian, New Yorker or Philly?

You might consider limiting the contractions, using word choice and giving the accent emphasis in the MC's thoughts (MC thinks to self "I must be on the East coast...").
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Re: 12-01-08 Aspirations Chapters 1-7
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2008, 03:01:30 AM »
What, Canadian English doesn't count? :(

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Re: 12-01-08 Aspirations Chapters 1-7
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2008, 03:46:29 AM »
American-lite, eh?
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Re: 12-01-08 Aspirations Chapters 1-7
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2008, 03:42:32 PM »
As too the dialogue switch, yes that was on purpose.  I had the idea that if you have a shape-shifter then accents would also change with the shape.
I didn't really get the shape-shifter thing. Or rather, I did get that he changed shape, but I made no connection to the accent, which was incidentally horrible to read, but that has all been said.  ;)
What irritated me, especially near the beginning, was that you used no contractions when I would have expected them. That disrupted the impression of the narrator actually narrating, because it seemed as though you were making an effort to avoid all contractions.
I also found the fact that the narrator thinks so readily of magic when the ring won't come off mildly irritating.

Your chapters were too short, for my liking. I didn't really see the need to put "Chapter X" all the time, but I think that's mostly due to the ever growing chapter numbers, the breaks were all in the right places. It's more of a cosmetic problem, I suppose.

Apart from that, the story was intriguing, and the scene in the hotel room was indeed the best one. It definitely left me wanting to know what was going to happen next.

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Re: 12-01-08 Aspirations Chapters 1-7
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2008, 10:57:28 AM »
This was something which caught me completely off guard. I like the film-noir style you’ve got going there. It seems I’ve read a much edited version from the others, since all of the faults the others have pointed out seem to have been fixed.

When you introduce faux-English-man (dibs on the superhero name ;)) you have him use liok. That word cost me a lot of trouble to find the intended sound but that’s most likely a language issue. But just in case it’s not I thought I’d mention it.

The only other jarring thing I ran across was the beginning of chapter three. How he got from a bar to windy Oceanside and back to a bar is a bit confusing. I gather he was sucked into the world of the ring, but why does this happen before he even puts it on?

(Sorry for being a bit brief, I’ll try and be extra nit-picky on your next submission which is already sitting in my mailbox as I type this and I have some catching up to do first)

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Re: 12-01-08 Aspirations Chapters 1-7
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2009, 09:21:18 PM »
Like your narrator, I'm late to this party, but here we go.

The book starts off great.  I was hooked immediately, and sucked right in.  Chapter 1 ends with a bang.  Excellent. Well done.

Nit-picking:
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This by no means tells me were in the states I am, only that I am home once more.
 
I think you meant "where"

Throughout everything I read, the prose was well written. It's clear that you write naturally and confidently.  (Or you revise the hell out of it before submitting. heh heh)   However, there appeared to be a lot of errors with punctuation. Or, at least, the punctuation could be better.  I'm not a copy editor, but I suggest you have somebody good like that go over it and suggest semi-colons where you have commas, etc.  Example:

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I leaned back, away from the thought and from him.  Had another drag, and considered my situation.
 
Don't ask me how to fix it, but those two sentences both felt jarring when I read them. I had to go back and re-read it to get their meaning. They took me out of an otherwise smooth and quick read.

In other words, get a publisher to buy this and have them sick a proof-reader on you. ;-)

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" 'ello, what's a gent' liok you duin' in a dive liok this?"

Dude, I've got to give you some props here.  Writing accents is a dangerous thing to do.  If you can pull it off, then great.  (JK Rowling does this brilliantly in the Harry Potter books).  You seemed to have handled it nicely as well.

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"Not.  Interested."
"Me boy'o, ye know not what ye do.
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"Well, if that's the way you want it…"

Okay, now I'll put the brakes on my otherwise flowery nice words.  I'm not sure how I feel about the "..." line.  The dot-dot-dot obviously is a drawn out moment. And it works OK, I suppose.  It's certainly original in a sense, which I'll give you credit for.  But I think you can do better with that beat.  Maybe the narrator clunks his drink down and looks at the Stranger for the first time, ready to tell him off.  Or maybe yo can describe the silence that lingers in between them.  ("The fans whirled overhead." or "The bartender wiped the counter around me, but I hardly noticed.")   Something like that.   Just something to consider.  :)

Chapter 3 - I didn't get a clear read on where he was at.  At first it seemed like it might be at an outdoor, ocean side bar.  But then you mentioned  a smoke filled room.   Might just want to clarify that a bit.

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Watching the Ring, I caught sight of its smoldering center.  It pulsed and throbbed, a burning ember without heat.  The rhythm picked up as my heart began to race.  I became entranced, enchanted; I felt it throb in time with my heartbeat.  With agonizing slowness, I wrenched my gaze away.  What was this thing? 

It's a crystalheart from Reaves' novel!   ;-)   jk.  Couldn't resist.   Alas, I also have red crystals in my novel. Apparently I need to change their color or otherwise, I'll be accused of stealing.

Not sure if you did it on purpose, but I like how your paragraphs and sentence structures got a little longer after he sobered up.  *bows* I'm not worthy....

Chapter 6 felt really out of place.  But I think that the point.

Well done, Ben.  I'm impressed. 

J

PS: I'll read other people's comments and chime in as well.
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Re: 12-01-08 Aspirations Chapters 1-7
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2009, 12:46:36 AM »
1) Nit-picking:
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This by no means tells me were in the states I am, only that I am home once more.
  I think you meant "where"

2) In other words, get a publisher to buy this and have them sick a proof-reader on you. ;-)

3) Chapter 3 - I didn't get a clear read on where he was at.  At first it seemed like it might be at an outdoor, ocean side bar.  But then you mentioned  a smoke filled room.   Might just want to clarify that a bit.

4) It's a crystalheart from Reaves' novel!   ;-)   jk.  Couldn't resist.   Alas, I also have red crystals in my novel. Apparently I need to change their color or otherwise, I'll be accused of stealing.

5) Not sure if you did it on purpose, but I like how your paragraphs and sentence structures got a little longer after he sobered up.  *bows* I'm not worthy....

1) Good catch!  I didn't even notice it. :-[

2) Even though it's my first, I'm working on it. ;D

3) Thanks, I think some others had that thought as well.

4) lmao!  It didn't even connect for me!  I can't speak for Reaves, but so long as they don't do the same things, then I don't mind.  Go for it!

5) I have a book, "How to Write Tales of Horror, Fantasy & Science Fiction", that has been my bible for several years now.  Dean Koontz has some great advice about how to use sentence structure for mood, pacing, and suspense.  I was just hoping that I didn't mangle it too much. :-\
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