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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #600 on: May 29, 2009, 09:36:14 PM »
Most women date their rapist.

Again, check out Stockholm syndrome.

As for not leaving earlier, for all his protests to the contrary, Mat is a slave to responsibility.  The main reason he claims to avoid commitment, work and battle is the fact he can't shake the feeling of responsibility.  Until they found Valan Luca, Mat had no way to escape that would not have left people he felt responsible for in danger in Ebu Dar.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #601 on: May 30, 2009, 05:51:19 PM »
Stockholm usually happens in kidnappings. Mat was not kidnapped.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #602 on: June 03, 2009, 11:54:42 PM »
I never thought Mat was raped.  I always look at it like he was just out of his element because he was used to being the aggressor with women, and Tyelin reversed the roles a bit.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #603 on: June 04, 2009, 07:43:02 PM »
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Tyelin reversed the roles a bit.
LOL that's a tinyy bit of an understatement.…

(I agree with what you were saying though.)
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #604 on: June 04, 2009, 09:05:30 PM »
He was violated in mind and body... those who think otherwise just under-estimate women
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #605 on: June 04, 2009, 10:04:07 PM »
There isn't one scene where Mat tells Tylin no(that I have found). He makes excuses in one scene but then is distracted by her kissing to the point where he does not even notice his pants are undone. Beyond that Mat has faced down six armed attackers in an ally and had enough skill to not kill the one woman attacking him during that fight. But your telling me he can't find away to get away from ONE woman with a dagger?  Highly unlikely. He didn't like the role reversal but he was in no way raped.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #606 on: June 04, 2009, 10:12:05 PM »
I especially liked that he had a smoke after, and Tyelin teased him for pouting.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #607 on: June 04, 2009, 10:13:41 PM »
*calls "Joe you out there?"
No response.
"Joe?  JoeC!"
The echo comes faintly drifting and attenuating as if down an endless stone corridor. "C!. . . C. . . c. . . c--"

I think the book worm ate him. :(
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #608 on: June 04, 2009, 10:15:29 PM »
One woman with an entire personal guard and the power of a queen, and a dagger just to add to the humiliation.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #609 on: June 04, 2009, 10:17:44 PM »
That's twice now I've spelled Tylin wrong.  <<Shakes head in disgust>>  What kind of WOT fan do I think I am?
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #610 on: June 04, 2009, 10:18:02 PM »
Quote from: Renoard on June 04, 2009, 10:15:29 PM
One woman with an entire personal guard and the power of a queen, and a dagger just to add to the humiliation.

We're still talking about Mat freaking Cauthon here!!!! If he doesn't want to be in that situation he gets out of it! End.Of.Story.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #611 on: June 04, 2009, 10:24:31 PM »
Date rape is still rape.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #612 on: June 04, 2009, 10:25:18 PM »
The scene where Nynaeve scolds him for taking advantage of Tylin, and in a rush to defend himself tells her more than he intends, and she walks away laughing at him...priceless.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #613 on: June 04, 2009, 10:31:17 PM »
I've only read it about 8 times, but I've never really felt like he was raped. More like his biggest complaint was the following

She's a Noble
She's chasing him not the other way around
She sort of takes on an "own him" approach. Once he is with her, none of the serving girls in taverns will have anything to do with him.

It' comes down to Mat loves to complain and he likes his roles to be standard every time.
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Re: WOT Help
« Reply #614 on: June 04, 2009, 10:38:21 PM »
Agreed.  Spot on.
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