The Countdown

[Qarlin]

I have nothing to say against it. The world being held frozen, perhaps just a bit before it's all supposed to end because of the deepness.

[Chaos]

Or, perhaps the world being frozen is the thing that kept Ruin at bay.

[Coof]

Chaos, you're theory is very interesting indeed. The answer, surprisingly, is contained in the first two books. I have a question for you.
Is it Ruin and Preservation that change and affect the world, or the people that live in the world?

[Qarlin]

Coof, thanks for the hints, but they're more just annoying than helping right now. I'd rather theorize with those who don't know than be patronized by those who do. Even if it's well meant.

[darxbane]

It's funny how we are going back to theories we came up with all the way back in May, only with more evidence to back them up.  We may not have been so far off after all.

Edit: Chaos, you only like Coof's posts because you hope he'll slip up.  I know how impatient you are.   

[Chaos]

Actually, darxbane, I'm going to go with Qarlin on this one and ask Coof to not make vague hints like that. I know the power is exhilarating, Coof, but I don't want any conceivable part of the book spoiled

[Andrew the Great]

I like the Preservation theory, Chaos. One of my favorites actually. Makes many much sense.

And I agree, coof. We're happy for you, but the hints are annoying.

[darxbane]

Oh sure, when I say his hints are annoying, you say this:

Hey, I treasure Coof's opinion, because he likes the book. That means I won't be frustrated by it (probably. Ookla still says some people won't like the ending), which is great

Then Qarlin jumps in, and now your all in agreement.  I see how it is 

[Qarlin]

Heh.

Darxbane, you know there's a difference between knowing someone likes the book and hearing all about it before you get to read it.

Or you could tell yourself that I just have better timing, take your pick.

[Chaos]

Okay, blatantly random theory time:

What if the Lord Ruler created atium?

[darxbane]

I'd thought about that before, and haven't been able to choose a side.  My only argument against it would be that it would mean that TLR created allomancy as well, otherwise you wouldn't have that nice 4 pairs of 4 system until after Atium and Malatium were made.

[VegasDev]

Yeah, I'm not sure what I think. Atium and Malatium aren't real world metals like the rest, so it lends itself to TLR creating his own. However, I thought that Atium existed prior to TLR because it was part of his bracers.

[happyman]

Yeah, I'm not sure what I think. Atium and Malatium aren't real world metals like the rest, so it lends itself to TLR creating his own. However, I thought that Atium existed prior to TLR because it was part of his bracers.

Maybe he created it just so he could make the bracers out of them.

[VegasDev]

Maybe he created it just so he could make the bracers out of them.

Or these bracers were pre-ascension in the form of 'Piercings of the Hero'.

[happyman]

Maybe he created it just so he could make the bracers out of them.

Or these bracers were pre-ascension in the form of 'Piercings of the Hero'.

Well, yes.  But they don't provide any evidence one way of the other as to atium's existence in mistborn, pre-Lord Ruler.