Ruin and Preservation

[Comatose]

OK< I get it now, I don't think Ruin would want a body, I agree with you guys, it would weaken him, I think Preservation might be trapped in a body somewhere, explaining why his power is limited, and ruin wants to find this force and either control it or stop the PReservation body from causing trouble.
In Final Empire Prime, Sha, or the destruction force, seeks to bond with the Lord Ruler character because it's the only way it has a sentient mind, Ruin already has this, thus I see no point for it to want a body.

[Reaves]

in the future you may want to add something like FINAL EMPIRE: PRIME SPOILERS. I probably would have read it anyway but we'll never know now will we...

[Miyabi]

Yeah, spoiler warnings are nice.  Even though I accidentally read a post once that had like the whole story in it. D: ha ha.

[Peter Ahlstrom]

It's a mistake to draw any conclusions based on a Prime book. Yes, some things turn out the same, but more things don't.

[Comatose]

I'm just drawing information from anywhere I can, and sorry about the spoiler warnings Reaves, they're just in the sample chapters on Brandon's site, that reference came from chapter one I believe, so I didn't think it would be a big deal, and it had already been mentioned on another thread I think, but sorry though if I ruined anything for you.  I'll be more careful next time.
And Ookla, I'm tempted to try once more to ignore your comments, because they really get me know where, are you saying I'm wrong, are you giving me advice because other things are changed, are you trying to turn me away from the right direction, I just can't decide.  It's really quite frustrating!!!

[Peter Ahlstrom]

I'm not saying you're right or wrong, I'm just reminding everyone that the Prime books are a very unreliable source of conclusions about the non-Prime books. They may bring up interesting possibilities to consider, but drawing a conclusion because something was one way in a Prime book would be hasty.

Ruin is sentient...but Brandon might have thought up a different reason why he might want a body (or not).

[Miyabi]

Coma, when you figure out how to resist reading Ook's posts, please let me know, because they drive me crazy. ha ha.  I have NO idea what to think about them, it just makes theorizing even harder than normal. xP

I still think he needs a body to affect the physical world, because you can't affect a plain unless you exist in it.

[Peter Ahlstrom]

Is there any prior evidence in the Mistborn books of a "plane" system?

[Miyabi]

No, but it's something that a lot of metaphysical scientists theorize about and Brandon puts some reality into his books so I'm assuming that there is a potential for it to be what Ruin is missing is a doorway into the physical part of the world.

[Czanos]

[sarcasm]

I've got it! Ruin is looking for the other atium mine so he can harvest all the atium and use it to buy all the kandra. Then he'll have all the kandra impersonate people who are in charge of those commanding koloss, then have them use the koloss to kill all the other humans. (Kandra prophecy, fulfilled.) He will then use his Steel Inquisitors to kill all the kandra, and then kill themselves. He will then be free of all those pesky things standing in the way of the deepness ravaging the world, and can live happily ever after!

[/sarcasm] 

[VegasDev]

[sarcasm]

I've got it! Ruin is looking for the other atium mine so he can harvest all the atium and use it to buy all the kandra. Then he'll have all the kandra impersonate people who are in charge of those commanding koloss, then have them use the koloss to kill all the other humans. (Kandra prophecy, fulfilled.) He will then use his Steel Inquisitors to kill all the kandra, and then kill themselves. He will then be free of all those pesky things standing in the way of the deepness ravaging the world, and can live happily ever after!

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That's so crazy it just might work.

[Peter Ahlstrom]

For anyone who didn't know: In Mistborn Prime, there were two atium mines.

[Miyabi]

FIRST he tells us not to look too much into MBP NOW he tells us there were two mines. . . . GRRR! ha ha

[Peter Ahlstrom]

Exactly.

(Anyway, Czanos mentioned it first.)

[Chaos]

I've said in a theory a while back (I believe in the "Gemmel" topic) that atium is very unique for it to not be very, very important in some way we have not touched upon yet--different from the clear Allomantic and economic importance. Atium, unlike every other metal discovered in the Mistborn universe, is only made from one place. It's the only metal that Brandon did not take from the real world. Kandra insist by being paid by atium only, despite there being no indication that they'd need the economic power from it in the first place (having no economy) or the Allomantic advantages (since they don't use Allomancy)--I believe it was touched on that in MB3, the reason for the kandra wanting atium would be explained.

Atium is important in some way. Wee, yet another plot point to discuss!