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Re: Worldcon participants
« Reply #75 on: August 05, 2004, 07:25:39 PM »
There is next to no chance at all that I will be going. If it does happen, I will bite the bullet and pay the higher membership fee, if it comes to that.

It would be a great blessing if someone bought my WorldCon membership, so if Tor wants to save money, I'll be happy to transfer my membership.

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Re: Worldcon participants
« Reply #76 on: August 06, 2004, 01:28:28 AM »
I'm very sorry, SE.  We were really looking forward to seeing you too, especially since we missed you on your trip to Utah. :(

Good luck with everything--I hope your finances sort themselves out for you soon.

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Re: Worldcon participants
« Reply #77 on: August 06, 2004, 03:03:29 AM »
Ouch! That is bad news indeed...I sure don't know anyone else wanting to go, so good luck...  :o

Hope your financial situation improves.

Brandon, I was hoping there was a shuttle...if not to our hotel, to one of the others nearby.
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Re: Worldcon participants
« Reply #78 on: August 06, 2004, 12:10:02 PM »
Yeah, a shuttle would be very nice.  I called on extending the hotel, and they promised me it wouldn't be a problem to get an extra day on check in.  

SE:  Moshe says to post your offer to sell a Worlcon ticket on rec.arts.sf.fandom.  He says that situations like yours are common this time of year, and that people on the newsgroup go poking around for cheaper tickets.  He thinks that's your best place to sell.

I'll just express my dismay again.  I really have no room to speak, not yet having a family, but this is a major bummer.  In order to break in, you really need to start going to these things eventually.  I had ELANTRIS done in early 2000, but I couldn't get anyone to look at it until I met an editor at a party and talked it up to him.  If I hadn't started attending cons, I would still be trying to sell my books.  
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Re: Worldcon participants
« Reply #79 on: August 06, 2004, 12:25:58 PM »
when this argument is given to my wife, she makes the (pretty much valid) point that once we don't have debt payments, then I can start doing this. THe problem is I've been more serious about doing this, and I feel like I'm failing or not being serious if I'm not working on it. One argument is that I'm not serious still, because I haven't been doing extra part time work to pay for it. I haven't been doing extra part time work because I'm trying to actually write stuff, though, and taking that time away from me will slow me down a lot. Where's the compromise to be made? Apparently, my wife and I disagree on where that line is. I want to be making more money by writing, but it takes more time to start doing that than my wife is comfortable with. One thing I'm looking at is freelance editing and writing for d20 publishers. No one wants to pay to do it full time (with the few exceptions of huge companies like Wizards), but it'd be a little bit of cash.

Anyway, there is a development, and while it still seems unlikely that I'll go, there's the smallest glimmer of hope. Here's why.
THe primary expenses left are transportation, lodging, and food. This adds up to a few hundred dollars still.
However, my brother, as discussed before, is coming and commuting daily from New Hampshire. I can stay at his home, I just didn't want to spend all that time before. However, the drastic loss of sleep may be worth it now.
I have a $100 voucher with Southwest. I had put this out of my mind as useless since they don't go to Boston. They do, however, go to Manchester, NH. If I'm staying up there anyway, this suddenly becomes worth it.

I'm down to an estimated $100-150 in remaining expenses (more if my brother insists on splitting gas he'd be using anyway, which is understandable but I hope against). However, my wife, and knowing our situation, I agree, balks at any expense to get me there. So, I need to find a way to pay for it. A very kind co-worker has offered to give me $150 if that's all that's keeping me going. I am, however, uncomfortable accepting it. I hope to find some other way to get it, but I need to know exactly what this will be.

So, I need more input from con-goers and Boston residents. What expenses am I missing?

I know there'll be parking and food. I'm searching for parking rates nearby. Food, I think $25 a day is reasonable, if I only eat sit down once or twice, and pay for 2 meals a day, this should be enough. What other expenses should I reasonably expect during the course of that week?

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Re: Worldcon participants
« Reply #80 on: August 06, 2004, 12:36:45 PM »
Boston Common Garage is $23/day, less on Saturday and Sunday. THat means (Thurs, Fri, Mon at $23, Sat and Sun at $10) Parking is going to cost my brother and me $89. Halve it for my share, $44.50. Estimated, uncovered expenses to date = $170. $200 if I have to pay my share of gas.

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Re: Worldcon participants
« Reply #81 on: August 06, 2004, 12:45:47 PM »
SE:  Food is an issue you can skip on, if you want.  The Con Suite is bound to have lots of food, and it's included in your ticket price.  I've never been to Worldcon, but World fantasy (even Conduit) generally has had enough food up there for free to get buy on, though it's generally more snack-ish than dinner-ish.  I'll bet you could get away with eating there almost exclusively, however, only splurging to go out with us once or twice.  

If REALLY necessary, though, I'll bet you could get down to zero food costs.  (Or, at worst, buy yourself some sandwich stuff and keep it at your brother's.)

So, we have:

Worldcon ticket: expense already sunk.
Food:  Negligible.
Housing:  Free
Daily travel: hopefully free.
That leaves getting up there.   On Southwest's website, however, I just found tickets for $49 each way BWI to New Hampshire.   (If you come back on Monday.  If you want to come back Tuesday, the second ticket will be $70) That's a hundred bucks--which is free!

So, total cost:  Negligible.  You should go book those tickets.
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Re: Worldcon participants
« Reply #82 on: August 06, 2004, 01:07:18 PM »
Boston Common Garage? Is that the nearest/cheapest parking you've found? That's pretty far from the Con--two T stops. I know that the garage down the street from me only charges $16 a day, and it's closer to Hynes--almost walking distance. The one under my building is probably more--can't remember at the moment.

And there's a Shaw's grocery store just around the corner from the Con that you could get sandwich stuff from. They have a relatively cheap salad bar. Or there's a Wendy's down the street--you could live off the 99 cent menu if necessary.

Just read EUOL's post--Yay! I think it's possible. You can do it, SE!
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Re: Worldcon participants
« Reply #83 on: August 06, 2004, 02:45:50 PM »
The Boston Common Garage is 8 blocks, according to their web site. Noreascon.org says that the two closest garages are over $25 per day.

As for flight, I can get each way for $49 if I'm willing to stay in New England all day on Tuesday (there are two flights that leave late in the evening) or skip Monday's session (there's one leaving at 8 am). Crap for sleep, but good for the budget.

I'm wary about telling my wife food will be free, but if I can keep it at $50 or so, I might could cover that.  I can't book the flight till I know what my brother thinks is fair for the transportation. I'll call him tonight. It would be helpful if I can give him more details about parking. Stacy, do you have more concrete details about that? If we're parking further than walking distance, than I need to account for transportation from parking to the con as well.

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Re: Worldcon participants
« Reply #84 on: August 06, 2004, 03:44:13 PM »
I'll walk over there this afternoon and be sure. I've parked there before, and I'm almost positive it was $16 for a day. Boston Common *is* walking distance, if you consider a mile to be walking distance. On nice days I walk from my work (about halfway between Hynes and the Common) to the Common, and it's a pleasant walk. But it'd probably take you a good 20min-1/2 hr.  You can catch the T right there at the Common (Boylston St.). T tokens cost $1.25, and it's only 2 stops, and you don't have to worry about what letter you're getting on.

What I would suggest instead, though, is parking somewhere on the street near my house in Brookline--day parking on the street there is allowed and free, and even if you have to drive around for a few minutes and walk a few blocks to the T, it'd save you $20 a day. Then you'd pay $1.50 to go inbound and $1.25 to go outbound (or walk from Hynes to the Fenway stop and get on for free outbound, which is about a mile). It's about a 20 minute ride on the T, though. So it would depend on how much you want to save vs. how much sleep you want.

But I'll still go check out the parking garage when I get off work. I know it's on Stuart St., but I can't remember the name of it.
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Re: Worldcon participants
« Reply #85 on: August 06, 2004, 04:17:28 PM »
I've posted the question on the bulletin board here at work, too. Between 3,000 Boston employees, surely someone knows of a good cheap place to park. Though $10 a day at the Common on the weekend is pretty good.
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Re: Worldcon participants
« Reply #86 on: August 06, 2004, 04:30:49 PM »
Someone at work just told me there's a $12 lot on the corner of East Berkeley and Albany.

That's about 4-5 blocks from Hynes, definitely walking distance.

EDIT: One caveat: I forgot to ask him whether that was weekday or weekend prices. I replied (this is on the BB at work) and hopefully he'll get back to me soon, but probably not before the weekend. I'll let you know on Monday, probably.
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Re: Worldcon participants
« Reply #87 on: August 06, 2004, 07:35:43 PM »
Alrighty,

Well, Chris and I have our plane tickets.  Of course, the only way we could do it was to get there on September 1st. We get into the Boston airport at 5:44 p.m. on the first, to be exact.
So, Stacer, is there any way you could find Chris and I a place to sleep for the night of the first?  Any one have a spare couch and floor?

Also, we'd love to stay in the hotel with you guys, EUOL. Could you send us the information so we know where to go/when to meet up with you on the 2nd to get our stuff into the room?

Our flights are:
Arrive in Boston September 1, 5:44 p.m.
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Re: Worldcon participants
« Reply #88 on: August 06, 2004, 08:32:22 PM »
Just talked to my roommate, and they're fine with you & Chris staying with us. The couch might not be the most comfortable, but I believe we have an air mattress here, too. We do have a hide-a-bed in the couch, but I don't know as if I'd trust it (bought on a yard sale, etc.). I've got plenty of extra linens (sheets/blankets/pillows/towels), too, so don't worry about bringing stuff like that.

Since you're coming in when you are, I can meet you guys at the airport after work if you like. Would probably make it much easier for you to get to my house.

I'm so excited!
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Re: Worldcon participants
« Reply #89 on: August 06, 2004, 10:30:44 PM »
We're staying at the Sheraton, Brenna.  You can meet up with me easily--just call my cell phone.  801 671-2916.

That goes for everyone.  It should be easy to reach me that way.
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