Cessation of discussion

[Oldie Black Witch]

Should be pretty cheap seeing that no one lives there.

[MsFish]

One can only hope.

[Oseleon]

I saw a fight brewing, and wanted to stop it before it started.

I mod another forum and that is just a foreign concept to me
People fight
People CAN have fights w/o it turning into uninteligable flame wars

HOWEVER
Here, I feel reluctant to post a contrasting opinion because I might get modded.  
I have seen threads locked JUST as they grew intrestig.  I have OFTEN wanted to put my 2 cents in only to find the thread locked...
I have seen people take offense at commentsa I would never have thought twice about.  
Maybe I am from a rougher internet neighborhood, But I did think some of the mod-choices here were excessive

[Fellfrosch]

It's a sad fact here on the boards that disagreements turn very quickly into flame wars. Until we can calm down as posters, I think Jam was modding well to head it off in that manner.

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

gotta agree with Osleon, yeah we fight, but our flame wars are actually really tame compared to 95% of the BBS's Ive been on. Kenzerco's Hackmaster board was downright hostile and frightening. It makes more sense to stop the fight after it happens instead of assuming it will happen. I think a lot of the drop of in discussion stems from rabid modding as of late. It certainly makes me want to visit less. That could be because I have strong opinions I want voiced, but I dont think it is.

[House of Mustard]

I think "rabid modding" is a gross exageration.  Maybe I've missed something, though -- name the threads that have been locked or threatened with locking.  Unless it's only on the threads I never read, it's really, really uncommon.

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

compared to a how it used to be one thread locked is rabid. But there have been a few locked in the last 3 months... the one that leaps out at me is the cookie monster thread there were however more.

Cookie Rehab?
Urge to Kill rising!
I remember others but cant seem to find them right now.

the other stuff I cant show you because it has been edited posts and the like. Mainly Im just getting tired of the threats. Threats mainly levelled at noobs for no reason.

[JP Dogberry]

Yeah, ok, I suck as mod and officially step down.

Happy now?

[Archon]

I, for one, would not be. Jam,  I don't think that people are knocking you directly. You did what was expected of you, and you did it well, in my opinion. What I think people are saying is that we should start expecting something else in a mod. I don't know if you like that any better, but that is my impression.

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

exactly, your a good mod, as the rules exist now... but we need a little change.

If you were a bad mod you would have locked this thread.  

[GorgonlaVacaTremendo]

First off...

Isn't there a way to make sub-threads; I mean, have a thread that is under another thread, like a thread in a folder as we have it now?  Can't we just make it so all of the 'pure' threads have a little button below the posing window that says 'creat sub-thread' and automatically quotes the post that the person is replying to?  That would solve the pure threads problem--nobody would have to make a new thread, they wouldn't get to numerous or hard to find because they would only be choosable once the master thread was highlighted.  I've seen such on other forums, can't we encorperate that into the new TWG?

I, too, have found myself visiting way less these days, since nothing interesting ever comes up anymore.  Most of the stuff that remains unlocked remains mindless dribble or small talk because anything that becomes a debate or an argument is immediately locked, modded, threatened or otherwise massacred.

Flame wars at TWG rarely, if ever, succumb to personal attacks, and when they do, the attacks are coupled with opinions, so it isn't even half as bad as at most forums.  I think that until a debate or argument turns into personal attacks, it should remain unlocked.  If there is a 'flame war to be,' it should be left up UNTIL it becomes a flame war--opinions, especially conflicting opinions, are getting so rare here at TWG it makes the site much less appealing.  I always have TWG open, I'm here all the time, but because nothing ever interests me I hardly even browse anymore.

And the Noob treatment now is not too harsh, I think.  I came in pretty rough, and I didn't resurrect old threads, I just turked a few people off with my opinion(s), which DID turn into a flame war (one which was not locked or edited, which goes to show how much more censored TWG is today compared to a year or so ago).  And now I'm, or I would like to think I am, a productive member of the board--at least I'm not detrimental.  If nobody has to deal with some stressors when they join the board, they'll never loose those Noob habits--I think that where the bar is now is about as 'nice' as we should get--give them a few warnings, but don't make it excessive, lay them in line if they're out of it.

[Mad Dr Jeffe]

/me brandishes noob stick

I'll learn you good noob!!!!

(does that bring back memories)

I didnt mean to say we were worse as far as treatment went, just that we have a way to come. But yeah it seems like discussion has dried up in favor of safer pastures.

[Archon]

Which is a shame. Because the interesting conversation is what lured me to TWG in the first place. That and the fact that there were other people who liked Fantasy as much as I did.

[Spriggan]

I don't care if 95% of the other sites are worse then us or "tougher", just becasue another site dosen't see any problems with it dosen't make it right.  The Cookie thread that Jeffe mentioned was getting really personal and some people were personaly trying to attack others.  Personal attacks are NEVER acceptible here and all most all the threads that get locked is becasue of this.  I don't care if it, or another thread, was just "Getting Intersting" to some people such personal things, or purposly posting things to make others mad, is not what frends do.  In the early days of TWG there would be lots of discussions that would go on for pages without someone trowing a flame and, if by chance, one did start up the other forum posters stepped in and calmed things down.  Problem is now a days it's allwayse the same people causeing threads to be locked, if you ever go back and read them you'll see the same 2-3 people that were being rude and abrasive, the fact that this has been going on for quite some time shows that these people do not care or have not realised that they're the problem (which seams kind of hard since they allwayse get chastised for causeing said problems).

JP rarely locks threads and only when things start getting personal, if you don't want threads to get locked anymore then tread people how you'd like to be treated.  And if you like to get yelled at by others, called names and be disrespected then don't post here anymore, that's all there is to it.

[Archon]

 I don't care if it, or another thread, was just "Getting Intersting" to some people such personal things, or purposly posting things to make others mad, is not what frends do.

Exactly. But I hope that you don't think that we thought threads were interesting because of personal attacks. I, for one, think that they were more interesting because people had strong opinions and the debate was somewhat competitive. This is a far stretch from making personal attacks, and I agree that crossing over that line is not something a friend should do, and is ridiculous.

and, if by chance, one did start up the other forum posters stepped in and calmed things down.

Another good point, people should stop relying on mods to step in to resolve conflict. First of all, people should check themselves carefully, but also, if you want lively conversation to continue, then resolve conflicts when you can, to keep people from crossing the line.