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Rants and Stuff / Re: I feel like a massive tool because...
« on: December 30, 2007, 02:17:23 AM »
Well I feel like a jerk when I read posts like this:

It's that I had to *force* myself to read Eye of the World. It was derivitive, had poor prose, and made massive allusions to fantasy, literary, and religious symbolism for the sake of looking smart without actually using any of the tradition or meaning behind those symbols.  The characters are utter morons with poor motivations at best.

I feel like a jerk because I know better then to think that the writer is an illeterate, dense and not particularly bright for having these views since he could just have bad taste. :o :o

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Rants and Stuff / Re: Regarding SE's opinion of Jordan
« on: December 30, 2007, 02:04:29 AM »
Quote:

I'm trying to figure out what the werewolf your talking about is?

Perrin being a Wolf-brother.

One of the reasons why Jordan took 11 books to explore his world, beyond the fact that he enjoyed it, is that he could. People kept buying the books thus TOR was quite happy to publish 11 books.

WOT is a traditional fantasy series in the Lord of the Rings, Dune tradition it therefore includes many of the same elements. Brandon Sanderson's writings are the other side of the coin, They take the original premise and ask what would of happened if evil had triumphed.

That many readers today no not have the attention span to enjoy an 8,000 or so page series is true but so what. Most of these people would not be able to get Through the 2000 pages of War and Peace, the 1100 pages of Don Quixote or the 900 pages of Les Miserables, the fact does not detract from the pleasure that some of us receive from reading those works.  WOT of course is not in the same league as those books but it is still quite entertaining.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Question: Mistborn - Final Empire
« on: December 29, 2007, 10:34:31 AM »
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Kelsier would not have had much if any trace metals. You get trace metals from what you would ingest and being a prisoner he probably didn't even have access to metal utensils, more likely a stick and a flat stone or a community trough.

You can also find trace metals in water. And the pits being a typeof mine I would hazard to guess that the prisoners water supply was probably quite contaminated with trace metals.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: December 29, 2007, 10:25:54 AM »
BioChroma

Bio=life, Chroma=color

Where's the problem?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Brandon To Write Wheel of Time Book 12
« on: December 28, 2007, 02:48:43 PM »
I have a Question, and this is not attempting to be in anyway disrespectful. Mr. Sanderson, I have read and thoroughly enjoyed Warbreaker, The Final Empire and I am currently reading The Well of Ascension. I have also read a large portion of these threads (including the 40 or so pages of the Warbreaker thread and the Fan Art thread). Now my question is this, why do you spend so little time describing the physical settings and clothing in your books?  It never entered my consciousness when I was reading the books, but it really became evident when viewing the FanArt threads, especially your comments therein.  Your description of the men's costumes being similar to circa 1800 England was a bit jarring as I viewed them more utilitarian ( even the nobles ' attire) more 1840's  early Industrial Age England  (maybe from from the way Breese was described). In any case, what I am trying to ask is whether the sketchy descriptions were intentional to coincide with the general "dark" imagryor was there another intent? Again, I'm not saying that you should have used more descriptiive language, I thoroughly enjoyed the books, but am still curious.

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I like philosophical writers who mix philosophy with a bit of Scifi/fantasy. Now I detest Goodkind (I like philosophy, I don't like being repeatedly hit over the head with it).   I like large books, and long series'. While I did not find Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time overly philosophical I also did not find its 8,00 -8,500 page length at all bothersome. With those caveats in mind, who would you guys recommend?

P.S. I have read most of the "Great White Male" authors that some of us oldsters believe are stll essential reading to be considered "educated", so authors being a littlke tedious or long winded is not a problem for me, lack of quality is.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: How did you find out about Brandon Sanderson?
« on: December 28, 2007, 01:44:00 PM »
I must confess that I first heard abount Mr. Sanderson from a friend who happens to work at a book store a frequent. He told be that Sanderson's books where the kind of fantasy I liked. He commended Mistborn. When I inquired as to what it was about he mentioned that it involved a "crew" of talented criminals fighting a Dark Empire. Frankly, it did not sound all that interesting. A few weeks later I read the announcement concerning Mr. Sanderson being choosen to finish A Memory of Light. I then found this forum and started to peek into the different threads. I then dowloaded Warbreaker and buying The Final Empire and The Well of Ascension from Amazon. I have now finished Warbreaker and The Final Empire and am about half way through The Well of Ascension. I have ordered Elantris through Amazon. I now consider myself a Brandon Sanderson fan. I have one question. I have read that Alcatraz was written as a "Young Adult"  novel, is it worth my time picking it up (I am in my 40's and found the Harry Potter Series, a bit--- basic)?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Question: Mistborn - Final Empire
« on: December 28, 2007, 01:15:31 PM »
Just my opinion, but even trace elements of pewter (found in the water) would be enough to strengthen someone enough to be able to kill quite a few guards caught by surprise especially is Kel's snapping consisted of  state similar to the "berserker frenzy" that some viking warriors were said to fall into.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Brandon To Write Wheel of Time Book 12
« on: December 28, 2007, 01:05:24 PM »
Tentative publication date is fall 2009.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: I want info about Goodkind/Brandon's comments
« on: December 26, 2007, 05:22:52 PM »
The first two books of SOL were fine, a bit derivative, the plot a bit to close to Jordan's Wheel of Time, but the action scenes were entertaining. However, starting with the third novel the prolitizing and graphic violance really started to get to me. I came to like fantasy ans Sci-Fi in a strange way I first read Animal farm, 1984, Brave New World, and Anthem, so I don't mind a political diatribe dressed as a fantasy novel. But, Orwell, Huxley, and Rand (at her best) were great writers, their stories can be enjoyed even if you disagree with the philosophical/political points that they were meant to advance.  Goodkind on the other hand will never be confused with the three mentioned authors. And that's what really bothers him and why he disassociates himself from the fantasy genre. Knowing his shortcomings as a writer he substitutes graphic detail for quality. Frankly, having studied "Objectivism" as a political philosophy I do not think that Goodkind has even grasped its nuances enough to make his novels particularly good examples of the theory in action. He is quite good at writing porographic scenes depicting rape and war but lakes the finesse required to write a coherent explaination of Objectivism.  I would not go out of my way to discourage anyone from reading the first to novels, but if asked to recommend either straight fantasy/sci-fi or political diatribes clothed as fantasy I would recommend literally dozens of authors before Goodkind. Moreover, I would never recommend his novels to anyone under 16, and would warn adults about the graphic nature of his writings.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: December 26, 2007, 11:40:31 AM »
I loved Warbreaker and only have a few comments at this point

First, the lesser gods (returned) can only use their breath in one shot. While Vasher and the King (he reanimates the stone warriors) are able to use breath in the same way as normal individuals  reanimating several different objects at several different times. If this is going to be a stand-alone novel the inconsistency should be explained. If this is the first book in a series then obviously its a point that can be dealt with later.

Second, Jewel seems to have certain feelings for her Lifeless. She seems more concerned about him then her fellow mercenaries. Did they have a relationship of some type prior to his death?

Third, and this is a more general point. The War that establishes the government of the main country and the Mountain Kingdom is only three hundred years in the past. But, all of its details and reasons are now forgotten to all except maybe the priests and a few StoryTellers. Would not many more facts, legends and artifacts have survived among the commen people, especially in the Mountain Kingdom? Should not the war be set further back in time?

Fourth, and this is a minor point, when Lightsong first discovers his detective skills he ruminates over whether he was a "policeman" in his previous life. This is nit-picky but the term "policeman" has a decided modern feel to it. It was first used in the 19th century during the middle of the Industrial Age. When I saw it used by a character in a World set in a pre-indusrial world it was a bit jarring. Like I said its a bit nit-picky but its the kind of anomaly that drives me to distraction.

Fifth, the interplay between the King and Siri gets little attention after they consummate their marriage. Their interplay is one of the most interesting parts of the book, especially as it shows the King's mental and emotional awakening. It really needs to be paid more attention to.

Lastly, the character Denth(sp) is quite interesting and his mercenary philosophy actually fascinatingly deep. However, in the last couple of chapters he comes off as just being evil.  Vasher's  assassination of his sister and the swordsman scholar gives him good reason to hate and want to kill Vasher. But his character should seem to be much more morally gray then you depict him at the end of the book. Vasher was the Usurper, started a war, created stone warriors, set-up the religion/government of the main Kingdom but he was still  still "good".  Denth, shows philosophical insight he is not a mental cripple like his side-kick.  In reality, is his becoming a mercenary all that more morally reprehensible then Vasher abandoning the main kingdom for three hundred years  after organizing a repressive theocracy ? Use Denth as the "bad" guy but give him a little more credit.  During the duel with Vasher have them dispute their philosophies. Make it clear that both are much more "gray" then either black or white.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Brandon To Write Wheel of Time Book 12
« on: December 26, 2007, 10:59:41 AM »
I do not see why anyone would be concerned with Mr. Sanderson writing  the "sex scenes" in AMOL. Robert Jordon's description of "sex" in the WOL series is as descritive as the sex seen in Warbreaker. Both authors set up the seen and allude to the fact that the characters were intimate but no actual "sex" is seen. Plus, the only sex that may be referred to in AMOL would likely be between Rand and Avi (and Avi will likely leave a wreath at Rand's feet prior to there activity), and this can be alluded to not necesssarily described.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: I want info about Goodkind/Brandon's comments
« on: December 16, 2007, 11:45:15 PM »
I think that his "objectivest" philosophy has turned him from a run of the mill egomaniac onto a paranoid egomaniac.  Actually, I think Goodkind is upset because Ayn Rand placed her philosophy partially in Fantasy setting (Anthem) but was classified as a "serious" novelist and not a fantasy writer.  Here a quote from Shakespeare would be helpful. "The fault dear Brutus (read Goodkind), lies not in the stars but in ourselfs that we be underlings.  Rand was original, good fantasy writers are at least imaginative, Goodkind (IMO) is neither.  His primary interest is not to write a good story but to adnvance his version of "objectivism".  Which puts his novels at a par with those of L. Ron Hubbard.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Brandon To Write Wheel of Time Book 12
« on: December 11, 2007, 02:17:28 PM »
Congratulations!

As any good WOT fan, the first thing I did when I read the news was to run out and buy all your books to get a feel of how you write. After 6 hours  I'm about 150 pages into Mistborn. I feel both confident and happy. Confident that Harriot (RJ's wife) and TOR picked the right author for the job.  And happy to have been introduced to an author who is well on his way to becoming one of the name's that all fantasy readers will recognize.

But just one observation, your series should be a tad longer (10 to 15 books would do nicely if each is at least 800 pages).  ;D :D

One question, if AMOL is as successful as we all hope would you consider writing any of the WOT prequels and outrigger books that RJ had planned to write? Not asking for a definitive answer just wondering if this is a possibility.

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