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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: February 08, 2007, 03:41:13 AM »
Yes, agreed. Yery good chapter.

Vasher a scholar... it makes sense with the ease he spoke of BioCromatic Breath etc...  I had begun to wonder if he was a Priest of one of the Returned at one point or another after the break-in to get to the tunnels.  Then add the that Lightsong's deal with Allmother.  You don't just toss your Lifeless codes away without thought.  That had forethought.  She may not have made the decision before that moment but Lifesong gave her too good of and opportunity to protect their interests.  But it makes me wonder again where exactly Vasher went using those tunnels - Allmother's temple would make sense.  Gave her vital information for what was happening outside the palace grounds.  Denth's dealings and the like.  *chews on that notion a while*

Nightblood is starting to make sense, your right. The 4th type.  The question is though, is killing a part of that?  Necessity the way it gains breath to continue like a Returned needs or is it the blood that sustains it?  Hm... Or was it created by using a Returned's (god) breath, one with a dark presence unlike Lifesong's heroic one.  The name, Nightblood, is even like that of a Returned God.  Makes me ask, was there ever a Returned named Nightblood.  Was he a symbol of vengence?  Makes sense that Vasher would want to hide that. All completely suposition.

I am finally admitting a grudging respect even like of Vivenna.  She is becoming more well rounded even if she hasn't got herself figured out completely.


Brandon Sanderson / Re: I helped Brandon make money
« on: February 01, 2007, 09:06:50 PM »
*rolls eyes at Ehlers*  

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Alcatraz cover art?
« on: February 01, 2007, 04:02:48 AM »
My 7 year old is reading Harry Potter and Bridge to Tarabithia granted they are my copies but the way they teach phonetics to kids these days, she sounds out most words or asks for my help.  More often the problems come in her understanding the language and defining some words but she was using words like, actually, in context at age 4.  My 3 year old uses scrumptious, in context.  (I do not baby talk my kids.  I say a word they don't understand and they ask.  next thing I know is they are using it.) So Rashid.... not too hard to believe they would figure it out.  Or ask once and most kids would remember it especially if they are enjoying the book.  However, the subtitle is kind of fun.  Battle over the Bag of Sand... now why on Earth would you fight over sand, even a whole bag of it? And what does that have to do with evil Librarians? If I did not know Brandon's work I would buy it out of curiosity.  because there has to be more to it than just sand.

Potterishness aside, nice cover.


Brandon Sanderson / Re: I helped Brandon make money
« on: February 01, 2007, 03:45:28 AM »
Proof is in the putting... make the person sign on and write Brandon on his comments on Brandon's books on the website.  This would be confirmation part of it being they had to name the person or SN that gave them/sold them/ lent them/ or recommended the book.  Plus, Brandon gets the bonus of hearing from more fans.   ;)

My best frind Dawn has my copy of Elantris and I sent up links on my RPG groups to Warbreaker and telling them of Brandon's work.  I reached at least 60+ people that way.  But I cannot prove that in anyway.  But, if they reply to the site......  *well off to post some more on my RPG groups.*   :D


Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: February 01, 2007, 03:37:27 AM »
I don't mind Seb it seems natural coming from Siri.  Her full name is quite the mouthful too and she is the only one in her family with a nickname.  What else would she call him?  Sus... too weird, Bron... too neanderthal....  Anyway, i like Seb.

Yeah, raunchy is how you spell it.  And I can deal occasionally with Erotica in stuff but it doesn't fit in here and I like how tastefully that was handled.  Seemed very natural and while typical the eventuality was somewhat expected. 

I don't think Siri or Vivenna even as stereotypical in some aspects maybe but you need the emotion to drive some of these other characters too.  Susebron has not really been allowed to emote and Vasher is Mr. Self-contained, I don't play well with others.  Somehow I feel the more emotional females in a way offset that a bit.  Susebron would not be very interesting without Siri to react to...

Nice improvement on Chpt 43.  Vivenna seems a bit more real now and even Vasher is a little more flushed out.


Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: January 26, 2007, 01:10:02 AM »
In regards to the squirrel and the general intelligence of the lifeless, perhaps, it is the amount of breath that is put into the lifeless that aids in the creature's intelligence.  Complete supposition but I reread the first chapter  where Vasher is awakening the straw figure and the cloak, there are references right there for this to make sense.  If it takes fewer breaths to awaken something that has a *human* shape then can the Awakener control the number of breaths he puts into his Awakening?  

I'm glad you're liking Warbreaker.  The book is actually 59 chapters
long, so with 43 being up today, we're over 2/3 of the way done.
Vasher, from now on, takes a much larger role in the book.  I was afraid
to use him too much early on lest I spoil the mystery surrounding his
motives and the like.

That is what Brandon wrote in response to an e-mail I wrote him in December.


Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: January 25, 2007, 04:28:51 PM »
Sorry Matt,  I had my reply page open for a few hours and evidentally had done so before you edited it and I finally posted and did not look back until this morning.

As for Vivenna perhaps I want her to gather her wits and use them too much.  And she really isn't lacking in intelligence it is her seeming continued gullibility that rankles.  I mean how many times do you have to get smacked down before you 1 give up entirely or 2 finally stand up and say I am not doing this any more?  Whether that be being used because it seems that is what Vasher starts to do here much like Denth.  They are similar in their there actions but carry it out for different reasons. Or whether it is just her deciding she needs to be more critical in her thinking before making decisions.  It is obviously easier for Vasher to show than tell but she seems to tag at his heels a little too easily.  At the very least she should be thinking on it.

Nice changes in that scene Brandon.  Much more believable.

How can Clod be more complex than the typical lifeless?  We haven't seen many to compare to.  Clod just reacts to what he saw as a command from Jewels.  Once give a command they follow it until another is given.  Just like the squirrel.


Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: January 25, 2007, 04:25:09 AM »
Well, Brandon, you have redeemed Vivenna a bit, just a bit.  Though, as many have already said, it seems too much for her to accept what Vasher tells her so easily.  She still seems so gullible. Especially, since I might think she'd be just a bit jaded after all that has happened.  I know part of it must be to continue keeping Vasher's intentions veiled.  But, being clean and cared for does not make up for his original kidnapping and I would want to swallow the cud that he's feeding her no matter how much she wants to believe it.  Of course, he shows her by taking her to the men to speak to.  But up until that point she is too accepting.  If that is her nature it is going to get her killed.  It needs a "Prove it to me!" or "Why should I believe you?" or demanding an oath of honor if there is something comparable in this world.  Something for Vivenna to latch onto and show a little spine.  Just an inch, but something.

- When Vivenna says "But, the Idrians here in the slums--I’ve seen their strength.  I know that they are more wise in these areas than I am." Has she earned that knowledge?

Why not, she experienced it first hand trying to speak to them and not connecting because at that point she really did not understand them it took her time to figure it out.  Plus she lived on the streets and had time to bear witness there too and sees herself as week even in comparison to the girl she thinks might pick their pockets.   To her she is the fool and admits so freely to herself and others.  I think it shows the beginnings of real humility and lends her strength to make such an admission considering her position.  Okay so it gives her a little spine.  The girl needs more.


I don't think it works, but it would be clever if Vivenna and Siri's father was the one behind the warmongering.  That would explain his certainty in the early chapters that war would happen; his thinking that sending a daughter would be a "sacrifice"; and after all, Hallendren was his family's kingdom before the Manywar, he has the most reason -- the only solid reason I think we've been presented with -- to want war.

Interesting, Daddy has been quite quiet and Brandon mentioned to me that this is 59 chapters long.  Much longer than had been predicted before and it make room for many more things to occur. Hmm....  I think that front needs to be heard from but.... I think the likelyhood that it is Blushweaver is stronger. For Blushweaver it is a powertrip, she obviously likes sewing deceit and is jocking for position to get those codes for the lifeless armies and she is right there in the thick of things and Vasher says that Denth's corrupted Lemks and that there was someone or some force at work in the Hallendren Gov't that wants this.  No doubt Daddy, Idrian King (forget his name), has gotten corrupt information because of it and would bring War to bear more quickly.  But again, it has been a long time since we have heard from him so that too lessens the likelyhood. 

Vasher laughed a barking laugh, and Vivenna flushed.  Her hair--responding to her mood for the first time since her shock at seeing peprin dead--turned red.
    Peprin needs capitalized.

Ok I am tired. And I am not sure I can make sense any longer.


Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: January 19, 2007, 08:31:55 PM »
I agree.  Bravo!  Fantastic Chapter!  *applause* 

I love that we truly see Lightsong's direct distrust of Blushweaver.  He has been toying with her for so long avoiding her overtures etc.  I love it.  I can about see Blushweaver's reaction if she find's out he has Allmother's commands.  Such a twist in the back when she finds he never intended to give them to her. 

By far I have to say Lightsong is my favorite character, Siri is a close second.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: January 15, 2007, 07:35:25 PM »
Perhaps, lacks purpose was the wrong way of putting it but I think lost is better.  All the same whether she has made mistakes or not pathetic as it may have been for her to make that first stubborn headstrong decision to chase after Siri, as she was telling herself, at least she was not wallowing.  She made a decision and has had to live with the consequences.  She has just been delt so many that it seems to have weakened her, possibly too much.  But there is that need to know where Brandon is going with this because he obviously has a plan or he would not have invested so many pages in her. 


Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: January 14, 2007, 11:27:58 PM »
Have finished all of my last batch and my girlfriend gave me The Laughing Corpse and Circus of the Damned by Laurell K. Hamilton.  Almost finished with the first title here and still don't think I'll ever really care for the character Anita Blake but I like the world she weaves.....


Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: January 14, 2007, 11:24:17 PM »
All is good no offense taken.  I just wanted to make myself clear.

But Vivenna lacks tough I dare say she is consistent.  I am hoping Brandon will enlighten us in the coming chapters and take and give more purpose to this character and it will all come together and make sense.  I mean he has taken a good chunk of the book thus far and dedicated many many pages to her. So there is hope that once his plans for her take shape that they give her more purpose than we can see here.  Vasher as well he has been mentioned much more than we have actually seen him in action.  Though most of those chapters have impact.

The thing is with roughly 10+ chapters give or take can all of the loose threads be taken care of without seeming too contrived. 

I understand teaching Vivenna the hard way (probably the only way she'd learn and not just be repulsed by T'Telir/Hallendren society)  but it's time she stood up and did something about it instead of being swept along with it.  She sorta started doing that with escaping Vasher, then Denth and then the robbery but she doesn't feel committed to it wallowing the pathetic existence that she chose.

*Sitting here waiting on the next chapter as patiently as possible.*


Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: January 13, 2007, 01:49:59 PM »
I didn't mean for the whole of the book I was just meaning more recently, towards the end of part 3 and now 4.   But she has seen so many things that have already showed her things are not B&W.  I have been able to connect with almost all of Brandon's characters I am just really struggling with Vivenna.  I felt I understood her up until this last bit, perhaps Brandon will enlighten me in the next few chapters and everything will fall into place and I won't end up being so annoyed with her.

Siri is not going to recognize her sister when she sees her again and I don't mean her physical state.  But to me it's not all about being likable it is about caring about the character.  I mean hate is fine way to fell about a character like Dilaf in Elantris or wanting to hate Susebron for what he stood for and and ending up really liking him for who he is.  But I care one way or another for them; conversely, currently I am feeling very little for Vivenna.  It feels like she has given up when she let's herself be carried off by Vasher.  I mean she knows he wants her breaths which she is currently 'hiding', but to not fight it in some way, even weakly-- show something other than conceeding to defeat.

Perhaps, half of my frustration lies in having to wait to find out what happens next.....


Brandon Sanderson / Re: Warbreaker: Free Ebook
« on: January 13, 2007, 02:00:22 AM »
My comment about Vivenna being 'smarter than that' was more that there could be so much more potential there.  (I tried to be facetious - evidentally it did not come off in print as I had heard it in my head.) Vivenna has had things continually happening to her it is about time she stopped being the unwitting victim lest she be crushed/killed by her circumstances.  I'm a bit tired of hearing about her woe-begotten, ill-fated situation and it's time stood up and did something about it.  She should learn something from all that has happened and continues to do so but she just lets Vasher apparently kidnap her again!  She just feels like dead weight.  Too much introspection and overly despairing (I agree) and too little doing.  She chose her circumstances when she was robbed she just seems pathetic.

I don't mean to be vicious but she is on my nerves and I don't feel I care about her as I do Siri, Susebron, Lightsong even Vasher.

Vivenna was the good little girl that did as she was told, fitting into the vision that her father wanted and how Siri the extra unnecessary child would see her.  It gave Siri freedom and  I doubt her father thought of the outcome of commiting his eldest daughter to such a fate, he was seeking the security of his kingdom.  22 years later and growing attached wasn't something he was thinking about at the time.

I love the last one and it while monochromatic it leaps out at you.  It fits the book though the cloak lacks and the scythes are wrong but the impact is much better overall a real improvement.  Vin could be prettier again but this ia a grat improvement overall.


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