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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: April 02, 2011, 01:07:44 AM »
Well I read Reaper's Gale and Toll the Hounds from Erikson this week.  I liked them both, but for different reasons. 

Reaper's Gale was very well told.  It included some of my favorite characters.  One thing that Erikson does very well, which I think is rare in fantasy, is capture the movements of armies over an entire campaign.  He does this without bogging down, or being boring.  I loved the story of the Marines in Reaper's Gale.  There was a lot of nail biting moments.  I liked that Erikson went out of his way to demonstrate that in many ways, the Malazans were much further advanced.  Their magic was different, their weapons and armor superior, and their technology was superior.  Still, there were a few times that he sliced through Gordion knots that didn't have to be cut in such an abrupt manner.  Mainly, I'm looking at Karsa's duel with the Emperor.  I thought it was more than a little anticlimatic.

Toll the Hounds was hard to get through.  It's strange, because I saved several quotations throughout this novel on my kindle.  I did so, because Erikson had some very profound thoughts on grief, faith, and several other things.  The further destruction of the Bridgeburners was heartbreaking.  Cutter's personal growth was nice to see.  The ending was very well done.  Very poignant.  Unfortunately, I found several portions in the middle that ran on and on, seemingly going nowhere.  Also, the beginning was hard to sink my teeth into because it felt like we jumped from one POV/plot line to another to another to another.  After a few hundred pages and you've only come back to a few plot lines twice, it gets old.  So this novel, while hard to get through, was well paid off in the end.

Finally, I read Dan Wells's latest in the series.  "I Don't Want to Kill You."  I found his first novel intriguing.  Almost like a teenage Dexter.  (Yes I know, the comparison's been made many times before).  I knew going in about the supernatural aspect (and yes, as Dan's addressed before, it's not set up well and kind of pulls the reader out of the book when it first occurs).  Still, I wanted to read the second one.  Mr. Monster was disturbing.  I've experienced a lot in my life.  Overseas, my experiences have been well outside the realm of the average person.  Even so, this novel was upsetting.  You see, Dan does a good job of making us think that there's more to John Cleaver.  Perhaps, he isn't a sociopath.  Perhaps there's hope.  Mr. Monster dashes those hopes away.  Even while we see John start dating and began to become more normal.  We know it can't last...and it doesn't.

Which brings me to his latest novel.  It's a fast read.  I found myself wondering where John was going to go in this novel.  Dan starts us off similarly to the first two.  There is a murder.  There's sufficient evidence to indicate it's a serial killer.  What I loved about this novel, is that it threw out the rule book.  John seemed more in control of his tendencies, but we got to see that he was indeed falliable.  What made this novel for me though, was the interaction between John and those around him.  I'm not quite convinced that a girl like Marci would exist in the real world.  It would take a hell of a personality for a girl to be the hottest girl in school and still have the confidence to go for an unpopular guy.  Not only to go for that unpopular guy, but to appreciate him for who and what he is.  And ultimately, that level of maturity is increasingly rare in our society.  I'm not convinced that Marci exists, but I hope she does.  And Dan clearly hopes so as well.  For once, John isn't alone.  Dan did a very good job here.  He made me forget that thus far, this series has not been a happy one.  The happiest ending was the first book and it's only grown darker since.  I won't give anything away, but I was reading the book at work  (I'm blessed with free time occassionally) and had I known what was coming, I would've put the book down and waited until I got home.  It packs a punch.  One that leaves the reader gasping.

I've never been a huge fan of YA.  Too many times it's like high school all over again.  The only people that look back with fondness on high school are either old enough to forget what it was like or else were part of the reason why high school was not the best years of our lives.  I'm suspicious of those that espouse it to be the best years.  Dan Wells does a good job of weaving roses in amongst the thorns and reminding the reader that there were rays of sunshine.  And enjoy those rays, because he doesn't let them last long.  Thanks for the read, Dan!


@Bookstore Guy, I'll probably give those two books a read this weekend if I have time.  I need to take a breath before the plunge of the final two :-)

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: March 26, 2011, 12:46:22 PM »
Well, I finished books 4, 5, and 6.  In a week.  Which I think speaks well to Erikson's series.  And to the fact that the office was pretty much empty this week and I had a ton of free time on my hands.

Book 4 was good.  We follow a new (from his POV anyway) character for the first half of the book.  For anyone who wants to know how to make a character we hate turn into one we love, they should read this novel.  I started off disliking Karsa, but by the end I felt he had grown a lot.  The final showdown with Sha'ik was a little anticlimactic, but that's alright.

Book 5 was...interesting.  I didn't realize the entire book would be Trull Sengar's story.  I can see why it was neccessary, the Crippled God's push for power is vast and sweeping.  I finished book 5 and remember my head hurting.  Why?  Because Erikson's world is so vast and the cast of characters has grown so large that tracking them all made me feel like my brain was being forced to expand.  Haha, not a bad thing in and of itself.

Book 6 was a return to some of the plots from the earlier books.  It was refreshing after spending over a thousand pages away from them.  The ending was amazing (as his endings usually are).  It had me holding my breath, wondering what the fate of the 14th would be.  I can't truly believe that the Empress is this big of an idiot, but if she is I hope her death is slow.  She's earned it a hundred times over.

I love the social commentary that's made.  There's some original Marxian thoughts, comments on civilization, on the cyclical nature of history, etc.  Many of his thoughts mirror my own which might be why I like them so much, but he does it in a way that never comes across as preachy.  That was one of Goodkind's many problems.  Erikson introduces you to an idea from both perspectives and depending on who the POV is from we see what they think is the correct one.  There's no blugdeoning over the head though and for that I'm thankful.

My complaints are few and the usual.  Erikson's publishing speeds are incredible.  Especially because the prose is good, the ideas are good, the characters are good.  Rothfuss could take some lessons in building and maintaining tension from him (IMHO his second novel has little tension throughout).  For all of that, the man is in desperate need of editing.  Why?  Because the man's books are good with great plots.  They could be great.  They could eclipse everything in fantasy today (perhaps not Sanderson...it's too early to tell, but if Stormlight Archive series gets better than WOK then they would rival each other).  Even Jordan, and as a long time WOT fan I never thought I'd say that.  Unfortunately, I don't think they will attain those heights.  They are epic and breathtaking in scope.  Sometimes the writing is almost Shakespearean in nature.  Having said that, they are places where he overwhelms with exposition.  Places where he indulges in something that's an obvious interest of his but does little to further character or plot.  There are story arcs that take up dozens of chapters to deliver a small piece of the plot.  I feel that in a way, his success is a curse.  I'm sure the publishing companies are allowing him to do whatever he pleases.  But sometimes you do have to kill your darlings.  And sometimes there is too much of a good thing. 

I'm moving onto the next one and am really beginning to wonder.  Erikson's done a good job of convincing the reader that this world is doomed and the heroes are unlikely to save the day.  Let's hope we're wrong :-)

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: March 23, 2011, 02:12:03 AM »
@Bookstore Guy

I'm okay with the novels setting up the rest.  Haha, as a huge WOT fan I've had some experience with the middle novels bridging the gap of earlier novels and setting up future ones.  As long as the world is brilliantly realized and the characters are intriguing I don't need an incredibly active plot provided it's clearly going somewhere.  Clearly, Erikson's delivered on those points.

I get what you're saying about Martin and co. To be fair, I don't think those guys are putting out books at such a slow rate due to editing though.  I think it's mainly due to not writing as fast or as often.  I get your point.  I do love authors that are prolific.  I have a lot of respect for King, Sanderson, (and now) Erikson who put out large volumes of work on a consistent basis. 

I look forward to reading the interview.  I've been busy lately and haven't had a chance to research Erikson much.  So far it's just been through his novels.

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For a short piece, it was intriguing. :-)   As to names, I would suggest looking at names common to a society similar to the one your protagonist is in.  This piece was too short to gauge that so I can't help, but I would start there.  As for the story, I liked it, but I thought there were a few issues.


"Soon enough, the dust was settling and she was nearly at the forest’s edge."  Too passive, why not:

"The dust settled as she neared the forest's edge."

I'm a little curious about the mob.  They are gathered around where she will land and then after that they disappear from the story.  Either there's a mob that she manages to evade or there's no mob and she's safe.  Also, how high is this roof that she's jumping from?  Either it's a low roof or this world has super natural powers.  It's not easy to jump from the roof of a two storied building and walk away (in this case run) completey unscathed.

I'm also questioning your characters intelligence.  One moment she's taking precautions in case someone actually decided to follow her.  There's a ruslting of the bushes which she immediately dismisses.  The next paragraph she's leaving her things and going for a bath?  This didn't seem believable.  If the character is worried about being followed and then hears something in the bushes, why doesn't she wonder if she is actually being followed?

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There's quite a bit of passive voice going on.  Ex. "was leaning", "had flung."  Instead just use "leaned, flung, flew, etc". 

The first sentence of the third paragraph (which really is the first sentence) was too passive for me as well.
"The camp for now was quiet which was an unusual occurrence, usually the clamor of men at arms or the screaming of prisoners could be heard throughout the night, preventing a sleep that was filled with its own breed of deathly melody."

I think something similar to this would work better:

"The camp was unusually quiet.  The silence screamed in her ears.  Sleep was a struggle without the cries of prisoners or the clash of weapons.  Sleep, devoid of its deathly melody would not come."

Your language is flowery, but I don't think that's issue.  I liked it.  There were numerous places with dialogue that had missing punctuation.  Also, I think that usually the standard format is Courier or Times New Roman, double spaced.  I didn't mind the different font, but the single spaced is harder to read.

You used the word forced three times nearly right in a row.  I would suggest using it once and finding different words for the other portions.

I agree with Akoebel, you should lose the first paragraph.  The second paragraph you could keep where it is, but I think it would be better as a quotation before the piece begins.  It works in nicely at the end.  That was well done.  I also liked that it wasn't enough.  Never make it too easy for the characters :-)

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I liked this chapter.  I'm glad that you rewrote it to make the character very competent.  It's a good way to take a character that otherwise would be annoying and turn them into someone interesting.  I liked the way you played with her extreme shyness and her expertise.  I think that it was very relatable.  Not too much seemed to happen in this chapter.  I could easily forgive that because, as I said, the character was very competent.  However, you might want to consider having a different first chapter when/if you try to send this out.  Why?  Because for better or worse the industry wants the first few chapters to really pull the reader in, grab them by the seat of their pants, etc.  This chapter didn't really do that (I don't think it was intended to either, so that's fine).  I would like to see more of this world.  More description would help anchor the reader in.  For instance, type of buildings, is it cobble underneath her feet or dirt?  Is there smog?  Is it loud, quiet?  Etc.  I kind of chuckled at the last thought the character has, I'm guessing she's in for some more surprises.

Below are some things that stood out to me.


The first paragraph doesn't work for me.  It's good what you're trying to convey, but you're telling us everything and showing us nothing.  If you reworked it so that she was using the book in the way you described the reader would be able to understand the reasoning, draw inferences, and the writing would be much better.

I notice that you use a lot of commas and the sentences tend to be long.  One sentence on page two was 38 words long.  I think that you might want to consider shorter sentences instead of stringing them together.  It reads quicker and lessens the odds of confusing the reader.  Say around ten words or less per sentence with the occasional 15 word one thrown in.  Just a suggestion, take it or leave it.  :-)

Overall, the prose is better this time around.  There are some grammatical errors, but they are easily fixed.  I noticed that sometimes you'll say "did send" or "did manage", but "sent" and "managed" work better.Outside of those errors, I really wouldn't be able to tell that English isn't your first language, so well done.


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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: March 19, 2011, 01:15:43 PM »
Just finished Memories of Ice, Book 3 by Steven Erikson.  Wow is the first word that comes to mind.  I said before the world is massive, but this one really started to show just how much of an understatement that is (and there were hints at how much larger the world is so I'm guessing I'm not done yet).  This time the novel switches back to the Bridgeburners, or what's left of them.  I loved the cycle of Gods and how they are being forced to come together.  I loved the politics.  I really loved some of the social commentary made by Erikson.  It was nice to see the Malazan Empire through the eyes of others and realize that in many respects, here is an Empire very similar to the Roman Empire, minus the lack of morality.  The explanations of their army structure and their layers within layers that the reader is only now beginning to see is breathtaking.

Description was a lot better than the previous two books (though still lacking in parts).  Characterization was much more developed as well.  I feel that by this book Erikson no longer feels like a beginning novelist still finding his feet.  That's refreshing because the series feels like it's about to take off and I'm ready to try to keep up.

Once again, there was one plotline that seemed to me to be completely unneccessary.  The Mhybe (sp?) was hard to read and generally boring.  I understand the reason for her line (mainly to show us that Silverfox had good intentions), but I feel that this could have been shown without having to read pages and pages of endless whining. 

I said it before and I'll say it again.  I feel that Erikson would benefit from a really good editor.  I wouldn't envy them the task, because to be hypervigilant through 900+ pages is not easy.  I think that they caught 90% of the book.  Whether this was Erikson on a rewrite or the agent or the editor, I don't know.  I do know that there were occassional parts that were either sloppy, plodding, unneccessary, or not as well executed.  For most authors this wouldn't stand out, but Erikson's prose/story was so well done on this one that I picked up on it.

The ending was one long boulder rushing down a mountainside that bounced off into space and plummetted, taking my heart with it.  I wasn't prepared for the level of emotion unleashed at the end of the book.  Erikson was masterful in that moment.  Readers beware, like Martin, he's not afraid to kill off beloved main characters.  I think the main difference is that, whereas Martin does it to be realistic/gritty, Erikson's characters generally die in ways to show the best parts of humanity.

To sum up, I'll be reading the rest of the series :-)

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: March 16, 2011, 12:32:17 AM »
Finished 2nd Erikson novel.  It was better than the first.  The breadth of the world really started coming through in this novel and it is massive.  That's really good.  The Seventh's long retreat was also very well done.  I enjoyed Fiddler and Kalam and gang.  I didn't like the girl's POV.  I'm sure we weren't supposed to like her.  She was put in a horrible situation and reacted horribly to it.  That's probably what 9 out of 10 people would do.  I just didn't enjoy reading about it.  Also, her thoughts seemed disjointed at times and then bam! she decides to become a goddess and suddenly it's all different.  I felt that part was very poorly executed.  I could have done without her story line at all and I think the book would have been much better for it.  I'm sure that in the future her plotline will become more meaningful and was neccessary, but I didn't feel that Erikson pulled it off. 

So, two books in.  Will I continue?  I think I will.  Erikson has some moments of genius.  There are some good characters (when he chooses to develop them).  They aren't wholly good or evil and I like that.  I like grey.  Sometimes it's nice to read some black and white, but I think of all the genre types, fantasy tends to go overboard with that.

The bad parts are that at times Erikson's setting falls to the way side.  Whenever the action or dialogue picks up the setting is lacking.  The character development was better this time, but only for certain characters.  Others it was very similar to the first book and that was a dissapointment.  The magic is very interesting, but in parts I again feel, that it was poorly executed.  I feel that thus far, two books in, Erikson is similar to Brent Weeks.  He's superior in his world, story, and prose, but they both tend to have heavily plot driven novels in an interesting world that's never fully described.  I feel that Erikson could do with a good editor.

I'm also cognizant of the fact that this is his second novel and the man puts them out at a very quick rate.  I'll read on because so far the plot (and some of the characters) have me intrigued.

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: March 12, 2011, 12:26:20 AM »
Thanks for the link!  I had heard his learning curve was steep, and it was, but I didn't think it was too terrible.  I also heard that he started in the middle of the story and made no bones about it.  I was fine with that, but I still think his characters weren't well developed.  Having said that, the ending was sufficiently entertaining and the prose was well done.  Based on that and the link I'll pick up the second book.  We'll see how that goes, I'm looking forward to it.

I just finished two books today.

The first is 9 years among the Apache.  It's an account from a boy who was kidnapped by the Apaches in 1870 at age 11.  He lived with them and the Comanches as an Indian for 9 years.  He stole horses, killed white men, indians, and mexicans, and rode over most of the southwest.  Finally, Quannah Parker convinced him to go to the reservations and then they found his family and he was reunited.  He eventually became "civilized" again.  He lived until the 1930's and Congress made an exception so that he could stay on the reservation as a Comanche.   Very intriguing read, I have read a lot of the West, but was still unprepared for some of the savagery in the book.

The second was Freakonomics.  I saw the documentary and wanted to pick up the book.  Very interesting read.  The authors tackle some controversial subjects (abortion and it's effects on crime) but only from the relationships of numbers and the data, not from any moral aspect.  Other interesting portions deal with parenting, sumo wrestling, and real estate agents.  I've always liked economics (in theory, in practice I'm not a huge fan of regression analysis) and this book was a fun read.

Next up is the 2nd  Erikson novel.

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: March 10, 2011, 12:58:16 PM »
I just finished Steven Erikson's first book in the Malazan series.  I liked it, but I felt like the book was almost completely plot driven with very little character development.  Even when characters did undergo development, it seemed like it was driven by the plot.  The descriptions weren't as much as I would have liked either.  But that's just me, I like a lot of description.  Having said that, the last hundred pages or so was exciting with twists and turns that made it nearly impossible for me to guess the ending.  And that was fun.  I've heard that the first book wasn't his best, but I'm not sure if I want to get sucked into such a large series unless it's going to get better.  Anyone read his series and have feedback?


I also reread Susan Cooper's the Dark is Rising Series.  I had read them years and years ago while in middle school and loved them.  Originally, the cover to the Grey King (the dog with silver eyes) is what drew me in.  Which just goes to show that sometimes a good cover is worth a thousand words.  Anyway, the series is five books long.  I was dissapointed that it didn't hold up to the test of aging.  I think it's hard for an author to write a middle grade/early YA novel that is going to be able to be read again and again as their readers age.  It was a good little story, but it was completely plot-driven.  The writing was good, if simple.


I also just finished up a biography of George Washington by Ron Chernow.  It was well written and intriguing.  It's very interesting to see sides of Washington glossed over in the history books.  THe man was a social climbing aristocrat whose resentment of Great Britain stemmed from their army not allowing colonials to hold permanent commissions in the army.  Having said that, it was fascinating to see his evolution into the egalitarian President we know today.  My only complaint is that the author could have used a better editor.  There are certain areas of the book that are repeated (sometimes with the same quotations/source citations) several times.  For example, apparently Washington was obsessed with scientific developments in agriculture and tried to apply those to his own estates.  While interesting, after the fourth time it crops up in the book it starts to get old.  Chernow obviously favors Washington, but I didn't find his bias too be over the top.  He takes him to task on his failures even if his vehement in his defense in other places.


I have a few more novels to put up, but I'll save it for tonight.

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Books / Re: Has Anyone Read the Wild Cards Series
« on: March 10, 2011, 12:46:25 PM »
Hahaha, that was good.  I was thinking the same thing.  I like GRRM's books, but my opinion of his work ethic is something else entirely.

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Books / Re: Wise Man's Fear--Your Take?
« on: March 09, 2011, 01:56:25 AM »
That's an awesome catch about the broken tree.  Haha, I even remember thinking while reading that, hmm...what's up with this broken tree?  By the time the tree came into the picture I'd completely forgotten.

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Books / Re: Wise Man's Fear--Your Take?
« on: March 06, 2011, 09:57:06 PM »
I agree that Meluan Lackless's sister is most likely Kvothe's mother.  I hadn't heard about the potential second trilogy.  I think that would make a lot of sense and you're right.  The first person POV is much tighter than the third POV parts.  I'm not sure how he would make that work, but he's got a few years to figure that out.

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Books / Wise Man's Fear--Your Take?
« on: March 06, 2011, 02:19:18 PM »
Hey all,

  My friends haven't finished the book yet, but I finished it on wednesday so I'm dying to hear what others think.  I won't post any spoilers, but I'll briefly give my impression. 

  First off, his prose was beautiful, as always.  He really has a gift for that.  It was well written and intriguing.  Having said that, I expected there to be more progress made plot wise.  I like books that have strong characters and intriguing plots.  His first book set up a very intriguing and historical plot that had me hooked.  This one I'm conflicted about.  I enjoyed reading it, thought it was a very good book.  But there were so few sections that I felt advanced the actual plot and that lessened my enthusiasm somewhat.  I enjoyed the section where he does something (and Kvothe says this in the story) that puts him on the level of a true hero, rather than something was still amazing, but then the stories make it more than it was.  HIs romantic life is killing me as well, haha.  I don't have any complaints with that, Mr. Rothfuss is doing the appropriate amount of tugging on the heart strings.

  I feel like this book packed all the dynamite up and set the fuses.  I'm really hoping the third book actuallys lights the fuse and the plot picks up.  There's so much left to cover (IMO) that I'm wondering how it's going to be sewn up in one more volume.  I certainly wouldn't mind him taking the series to a fourth or fifth book.

  Anyway, that's my take.  Well written, beautiful prose with a story that moved slower than I was hoping for.  What do you all think?

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Books / Re: How's Scott Lynch doing?
« on: March 06, 2011, 02:11:09 PM »
I spoke with Scott at World Fantasy at the end of October.  He seemed to be doing better.  I asked him about the next book and he said that he hoped to have it out this spring.  Having said that, I don't know if it will actually happen.  Usually when there's months in between posts it's not a good sign.  I feel bad for the guy.  His exwife has a live journal that she posts very candidly about their relationship.  A few months after she left him she was posting about how great it was to be free and there are several posts about dating other people and wanting to be with someone else.  Obviously, there are two sides to every story, but if you're having panic/anxiety attacks and then your wife leaves you and starts putting up stuff like that, I can't imagine it's very helpful in moving on with your life.

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