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There is too much of the Almighty in the highstorms for them to originally come from Odium, though it is possible for Odium to have 'hijacked' them.

I don't think it the land can just be broken into three parts and a shard given to each part. There is much mixture between the societies, indicating that the shards have influenced more than one culture.

Also, there are two different ways to read this epigraph, one that includes Odium as one of the three, and one that counts him as a 4th.  Which way are you reading it?:

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11.“Three of sixteen ruled, but now the Broken One reigns.”—Collected: Chachanan, 1173, 84 seconds pre-death. Subject: a cutpurse with the wasting sickness, of partial Iriali descent.

 

Brandon has stated that there are only 3 shards directly related to this series, so I think the former interpretation is more likely (Odium being one of the three).

I went on to say pretty much what you said, "Vin gets a suspicious feeling about a certain informant in an alley, and does not ask him anything.  Brandon says (somewhere, I forget), that it was Hoid."  To me, Hoid is in HoA, since Brandon said he is, even if he is not named.  I don't think he was named in the first 2 as Hoid either (maybe in one of them, but I'm pretty sure not both).

Hoid is expressly named in the 1st and 3rd Mistborn books, but his name does not appear in WoA.

EDIT: Whoops, thx for that Tasslehoof. I fixed it up

I really love Tien.  It's too bad that he has already died by the beginning of the book.  *Sigh*

Don't worry. I have a feeling we may see more of him. 

Well Brandon already said Elantris took place after Odium's visit.  As for the voice in the pool, that can be a little misleading, because rereading that passage, there's no actual voice speaking to Raoden.  It's very carefully phrased as the water SEEMED to be saying to him, its okay, relax, let go...its more like the pool imparted a general impression, rather than in Warbreaker where a voice is said to very specifically offer Lightsong a choice to go back. 

I agree. Was about to say the same thing, but you beat me to it. 

Even if they want to be trapped willingly, which I don't really believe at all, a fabriel can be used by anyone. Even people that don't reflect the aspect of that spren. E.g. none creative people would be able to use creative spren, what for I do not know, but it would be possible.

Aristotle's logic at work! 

I assume they would be some sort of aspect of the cognitive realm. Maybe the intelligent spren are also influenced by the spiritual realm?

Actually, thinking more on it, wouldn't there only be one metal now? If I recall, Atium was the body of Ati/Chaos, and Lerasium was the body of Leras/Preservation. With one person holding both shards, wouldn't there now only be one metal? So... Sazedium could grant a person limited view of the future along with the powers of a mistborn.

Although, perhaps there will be no god metals at all. If Lerasium came about because of Preservation's sacrifice and Atium because of Chaos's imprisonment, wouldn't that mean that Sazedium will only come about if Sazed sacrifices a portion of his power, is imprisoned by another Shardholder, or other such cosmic event?

Ruin, not Chaos!

Anyway, the metals were the physical embodiments of the shards, named after the person who held that shard. So Atium and Lerasium will still exist separately, as the shards are still separate, just held by only one shardholders. Maybe the names should be changed as Ati and Leras are now dead, but they've been called atium and lerasium for so long now, there really isn't any point changing them.