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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Spren - (Major Spoilers TWoK)
« on: October 01, 2010, 10:41:59 PM »
Both Jasnah and Shallan need to visit Shadesmar to Soulcast, and they need to take Stormlight with them. It's not clear where the differences lie. Having to trade truths feels appropriate to Shash and Creative / Honest, and Jasnah may not trade truths. At the least, something about the symbol-head spren surprised Jasnah, and she had to pause to reason about it, concluding that Shallan had the powers of a different order. But once they get to Shadesmar, they're doing the same thing. Does everyone agree on this much at least?

As you can see, each Order is connected to two other Orders, and also to the center of the chart. Of course, if you count the connections crossing the center, they are connected to three other Orders. Some (not me) have theorized that this has to do with the abilities they shared. It could also be that the smaller symbols refer to the Orders, or that it's more complicated than what has been proposed so far, but it's a pretty good theory as to the structure of the chart, and the significance of the paths.

The placement of Soulcasting would be very different, depending on which set of circles is Orders. If the small circles are Orders, then Soulcasting is just one of the big circles, and the powers shared by two Orders. But if the large circles are Orders, Soulcasting could be the two in the middle.


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This seems like an odd thing to say. I mean, what difference does it make if someone is religious in real life or not? This is fiction, right? I am an atheist, but if I had a problem with fictional providence, I wouldn't read fantasy books...

I don't think anyone minds divine intervention in fiction, but we might mind an author proselytizing. C. S. Lewis and Ayn Rand are nice enough to make it clear they're proselytizing, but some authors are sneaky about it, say, Terry Goodkind. This can really piss readers off if they buy something expecting it's entertainment media, but find a big chunk of it is a political or religious tract. Robert Jordan also felt a need to explain in interviews a few times that he wasn't proselytizing any of the religious beliefs he used as source material, and was just a story-teller. Some readers don't mind, but some really mind and flip out.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Spren - (Major Spoilers TWoK)
« on: October 01, 2010, 01:16:24 PM »
The biggest mystery to me is whether Surgebinders can learn gravity and adhesion (and whatever the other surges are) as powers, or whether they have to learn the Windrunner package that comes with the Three Lashings, or one of the other packages. We know the Knights Radiant packaged the abilities up this way, and packaged it with ideology too, but the whole point of the Nohodon flashback is that there were Surgebinders and Soulcasters before it was codified into the Knights Radiant.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Shattered Plain War Questions (Possible Spoilers)
« on: October 01, 2010, 05:56:30 AM »
(no birds on Roshar, remember?)

Wow, I didn't realize that. It makes sense though.

Shinovar has at least chickens and doves though. I wonder why they don't sell fetching as much as they do horses. Maybe there's a Roshar plant that makes good enough fletching that no one's ever seen the need to use feathers.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Spren - (Major Spoilers TWoK)
« on: October 01, 2010, 05:48:06 AM »
So, was Alkavish a Surgebinder by some means other than an Honorspren? Can different kinds of spren grant Surgebinding powers?

Also, what is the Nahel bond, if not a bond between a person and an Honorspren?

Those are anyone's best guesses. I suspect the same; the Nahel bond is what Syl did for Kaladin, and there are other spren besides honorspren that can do it, and Alkavish had one of those. But there's no more evidence available. It also makes me wonder where the word Nahel comes from.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Ink needs to do his own research
« on: September 30, 2010, 04:45:19 PM »
All parshmen have the red marbling, but some are described as white or pale instead of black. Page 62:

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That meant many of the people she saw were exotic. Those single-sheet wraps would mark a man or woman frm Tashikk, far to the west. The long coats, enveloping down to the ankles, but open in the front like cloaks... where were those from? She'd rarely seen so many parshmen as she noted working the dots, carrying cargo on their backs. Like the parshmen her father had owned, these were stout and thick of limb, with their odd marbled skin -- some parts pale or black, others a deep crimson. The mottled pattern was unique to each individual.

I'm reasonably sure I saw elsewhere that the parshmen slaves in Alethkar are mostly white and red, but I can't find the reference. And I visualized the marbling like the alien head patterns in the old Alien Nation TV show, about 50%, but I never noticed anything explicit in the book saying just how much red they have.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Hope and Ruin *Mistborn and WoK Spoilers*
« on: September 30, 2010, 04:26:32 PM »
I don't think we know. I assumed it was a coincidence, but I could see either:

1. Aona hoping that Ati retains his humanity, and naming the Aon after this hope.

2. Ati taking the Ruin Shard in the hope that he could control it and make entropy less terrible.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Thrill (Spoilers)
« on: September 30, 2010, 04:14:23 PM »
I figured the "Ten Deaths" were the Vorin version of the Seven Deadly Sins. Kabsal mentions some other "Ten" things on page 634 withing going into detail, so it sounds like the religion has a lot of them:

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"An unpopular part. People prefer to hear about the Ten Divine Attributes or the Ten Human Failings. We accommodate them because we, also, prefer that to the deep past."

Even on this interpretation, the Trill could be one of their sins, but I rather expected the Thrill is part of Vorinism, and a masculine ideal. The religion considers being a solider to be the highest Calling.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Hoid's Shard abilities in WoK (minor spoilers)
« on: September 30, 2010, 03:46:58 PM »
"I’ll do so if I’m not killed. Probably will anyway." can be read two ways:

"I'll (probably) do so if not killed."

"I'll do so if I'm not killed. And I probably will even if I am killed."

I read it the first way.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: A use for Aluminum
« on: September 29, 2010, 04:14:15 PM »
Someone asked Brandon about aluminum savants once, and apparently he laughed at it. This might be something an aluminum savant could learn though!

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Sazed, The effects of holding two shards, and Odium
« on: September 27, 2010, 09:00:01 PM »
I think Sazed will be pushed to some Taoist ideal of balance, although Chaos2651 has the quotes saying it'd take a long time if it happens.

And as for Odium being dangerous, I just think HATE HATE KILL KILL HATE KILL is an awfully more useful Shard power when it comes to combating other Shards. What it lacks in raw power, say against the 2 Shards on Sel, it makes up for in having no limits in its application. (edit: It's basically what power-gamers do when we realize all these different things have the same cost in character creation, but one sure is a lot more useful in combat... Rayse was clearly a power-gamer.)

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Truthless
« on: September 27, 2010, 02:29:20 AM »
I most like the idea of Szeth being so honorable and coincidentally swearing the oaths that he got the Surgebinding power without a spren.

Alternately, maybe he has a deathspren and can't see it, and is completely unaware of it.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK: The Heralds *Spoilers*
« on: September 26, 2010, 07:22:47 PM »
I considered Jezrien too, but I think the discrepancy between black and gray/black beards rules him out. If Baxis' mistress is a Herald, we can be pretty sure they don't age.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK: The Heralds *Spoilers*
« on: September 26, 2010, 05:45:19 PM »
Baxis' mistress is definitely a better explanation for the missing statue, but it leaves the beggar unexplained.

I already had one guess for why she's destroying them, but another is that she sees it as penance for her betrayal, and she's trying to redeem herself and believes she should suffer as long as Taln suffers. Doing it with a Shardblade would make it too easy, not painful enough to serve as penance.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Truthless
« on: September 26, 2010, 05:11:21 AM »
Szeth's punishment requires that Voidbringers don't exist though. So it's in someway unique.

Maybe he was simply supposed to retrieve the sword, bringing it back wrapped in cloth without having to wield it himself, but someone's dying words mentioned the Voidbringers, and the person made Szeth swear to protect those who cannot protect themselves.

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