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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Need help finding a WE episode
« on: May 29, 2011, 10:42:55 PM »
Thanks for responding. If I knew the larger topic I could find it on my own. I have listened to every episode multiple times and they tend to jumble together in my mind. I thought it was on "Roleplaying Games as Tools for Story Telling" but no luck. I also thought it might be in one of the magic system episodes but it wasn't. I think it might have been an off hand comment that wasn't directly related to the topic.

Where exactly are the "dedicated WE forums"? Do you mean the writing prompt section?

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Brandon Sanderson / Need help finding a WE episode
« on: May 27, 2011, 01:22:00 PM »
I remember Brandon mentioning an RPG game he ran where he had an interesting way for characters to be resurrected when they died (at least I think that was it). Something about spirits attaching to them (or something like that). I can't find that episode. Does anyone know which one it was or remember what the topic was?
It may have been in one of his Jordoncon videos but I remember Dan and Howard reacting to it.

Thanks for any help

EDIT: Found it. Dungeon Crawlers Radio interview.  http://tinyurl.com/69lcopd

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Seriously though.  I have wanted to talk for a while now about several misconceptions that I think Brandon, Howard, and Dan have (or at least had at some point). I could be misunderstanding them, so correct me if I am wrong.
 

The first is the idea espoused by Brandon several times that Tolkien had World Builders Disease and that he was an outliner. It seems that Brandon thinks that the Silmarillion was worldbuilding backstory for the Hobbit and LOTR and that Tolkien spent too much time on the backstory compared to writing the “real” books. In fact, the Silmarillion is a collection of the “primary” stories of Middle Earth. The reason he spent so much time on it was that he couldn't get anyone to buy it. He actually tried several times to sell it, at least once soon after the Hobbit and then again along with LOTR (the idea of a sequel came from the publisher), but they wouldn’t buy it.
The Hobbit was basically an accident and not intended at first to be connected to his larger Mythology, but he then used some of the Silmarillion as backstory. He used more when he came to the LOTR.

As for being an outliner, it seems from what I have read of the original drafts of LOTR that he was very much a discovery writer and "eternal rewriter". Tolkien had no idea what the story was when he began (he didn't really want a sequel). He would write a chapter or so (if that), come up with another idea and start all over again from the beginning! He started with Bilbo but soon realized that it made no sense due to the way he ended the Hobbit. He then tried to use Bilbo's son (Bingo Baggins, I believe) who morphed into his nephew, etc. At one point the first appearance of the Black Rider turned out to be Gandalf. The history of the “One Ring” was also a surprise to him. It was just a magic ring in the Hobbit until he decided it could have a more sinister origin. He had to revise the Riddles In the Dark chapter for future editions because it (and Gollum) didn't have the sinister edge that it needed (He had a great in-world reason for the differences too: Bilbo was being influenced in a subtle way by the ring so he lied to Gandalf). He also made the briefly mentioned “Necromancer” of the Hobbit into Sauron. He then went back to the Silmarillion and gave him a backstory as a lieutenant of the original Dark Lord, Morgoth.


Next up: the portrayal of the the Hero's Journey.

I know that at least Howard has read (or heard) The Hero With A Thousand Faces and has a better appreciation of it now, but early on in the podcast (e.g. Season 2 Episode 7) they portrayed the Hero's Journey as if it was so rigid that it said the hero MUST have a humble origin ala Star Wars. However, some of the first examples Campbell gives are the Buddha, who was said to have been a prince guarded by his father from the harshness of the world, and The princess from the Princess and the Frog fairy tale. Neither of them are farm boys or all that “humble”. I think a popular misconception is that Star Wars IS the Hero's Journey rather than ONE  example of how it can work. I highly recommend The Writers Journey by Christopher Vogler. He uses films as varied as  The Full Monty, Pulp Fiction, and Titanic (and hundreds of others) as examples of the Hero's Journey.  He points out that the Monomyth isn't supposed to be rigid and can be adapted to any genre. 

Anyway, I still love Writing Excuses and can't wait for the Hero's Journey episode (is that still going to happen guys?)   

 

 

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Brandon Book List
« on: September 26, 2010, 05:53:28 AM »
I believe that Brandon said in a recent video that he put his first unfinished story, the one he wrote in high school, on the Tor website. I can't find it anywhere. Did I misunderstand what he was talking about?

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Writing Group / Re: Writing Prompts!
« on: July 29, 2010, 10:12:00 PM »
I'm surprised more people don't post on here. I really like the idea of various renditions of a single prompt.

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Writing Group / Re: Writing Prompts!
« on: July 27, 2010, 03:09:12 PM »
PROMPT: A man stumbles through the desert and is aided in some way by a headless monkey.



   The man slowly crawled through the blistering sands, the raw heat of the inferno known as the sun beating him down with his every aching move. His skin was dried and cracked; soon his withered form would seem like another wasted feature of the hellish Sea of The Dead.  Yet, he continued to move with the a stoic determination beyond that of a normal man. He was the last hope of his people; the last of the band of heroes that set out from the village so long ago.  The others had fallen many long miles behind him, their bones claimed by the desiccating sands.  He had to go on or his entire tribe would vanish with him. Despite this ever present knowledge, he knew that his will could not continue to fuel his disobedient frame. He knew his time, and that of his tribe, was coming to a bitter end.
   Jarrak, for that was his name, lifted his head for the fist time in the long months of traversing the desert.  Long ago, soon after his last companion fell, he had determined to never look ahead. He knew that if he could see the vast, unending waste before him, he could never continue.  But now, after all the time spent resisting, he had finally given in to the call of the desert sirens, the strange voices singing songs of respite from the long journey. All travelers of the desert heard their song eventually,  but Jarrak knew they lied with every breath. It was not respite, but the repose of death that they lulled men to.  At last, their sensuous song had penetrated into his deepest being and crushed the last remnants of his will - determined though it was - between their steely grip.
   Yet, when he looked up to embrace his doom, he saw in the waves of the unending sea of sand… a figure.
   The small being was swaying from side to side as it came closer to him.  Jarrak thought he was seeing a ghost image. He had seen them before, they all had. Several times he and his companions had ran to a shimmering oasis, only to find the image fading as they came near, a trick of the demons of the desert. But this was different. The closer the figure came, the clearer in was. But, as it came into view, Jarrak wished it had been the trick of a demon.
   The monkey had no head.  It was a normal, lively monkey in all other respects, it only lacked a head. Jarrak had seen many monkeys as they played in the jungles of Gathar. And he tried to remember if he had ever seen one without a head. He tried hard to remember, but, no, all of the monkeys in his mind definitely had heads on their shoulders.
   As he stared at the bouncing creature, he heard a strange noise. It was a steady, repeating  beeping noise. It corresponded to the flashing light that was now coming from the neck of the headless monkey. For where the head would normally join with the torso, was a metal plate with a series of circuits and wires running across it. Among these were a series of colored lights that flashed on and off.  At the beeping, the monkey jumped several times and then proceeded to take off the leather satchel that it was carrying. Jarrak had not noticed the satchel before, as his attention was consumed by the headlessness of the monkey.
   Soon, the monkey was ministering to Jarrak’s wounds. Jarrak thought to himself that the headless one, as he now thought of it, had produced the food, water, and medicine from the leather pouch as easily as a monkey who still had a head. No… better than a head-ed monkey.
  After several hours, Jarrak was well enough to travel. The monkey, though voiceless, made it clear by his gestures that Jarrak was to follow him. “Who am I to argue with a headless monkey?” he said out loud. It had been so long since he had talked that Jarrak was surprised that he still could.
   And so, Jarrak and the headless monkey began to walk, the harsh heat of the setting sun giving way to the cool of the evening. Jarrak wondered who it was that had sent the monkey to rescue him. Was it someone from the Temple of Light? Has my journey finally come to an end?
                                                                               -------------------------------------------------------
   The journey of Jarrak had indeed come to an end as the  sandy waves of the Sea of The Dead washed over his lifeless body, covering any trace that he had traversed its blistering torrents.
                                                                                                   
                                                                                                              The End?

PS What do you think of Jordo the Tech-Monkey as a name for the little headless guy?  ;)

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