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Brandon Sanderson / Re: ***SPOILERS Official Hero of Ages Spoilers Thread. Includes Q&A w/Brandon****
« on: January 22, 2010, 04:57:04 AM »
It's actually orange, but, yeah, sorry.

I think that stacking Pewter would increase your speed, just not as much as Feruchemical Steel would, but that all depends on the amount of stored speed.

The "piercings of the Hero" I think are a reference to Sazed's Keeper earring-holes.  Alendi probably got his pierced because he thought he was the Hero and that was something the Hero was supposed to do.  Rashek would already have these as a Feruchemist.  I think Brandon said that the Atium bracers that Rashek wore functioned as his Hemalurgic spikes since they went through his skin.  He did this so that a normal Allomancer wouldn't be able to take his vital thing from him.

Just because the majority of the Well's energies ran out quickly doesn't mean that he wasn't any different afterwards.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: So There is Going to be a Mistborn Flick....
« on: January 21, 2010, 09:41:51 AM »
Summer Glau would rock, but I think Amy Acker might be too old to play late-teens to early-twenties Vin.

I think Alan Tudyk could make a good Kelsier or maybe Ham.  (you may not realize it but that guy is RIPPED) Or maybe Ben Browder as Ham.

One thing I'd like to see is how they portray Vin's memories of Reen.

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Video Games / Re: Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
« on: January 21, 2010, 09:17:34 AM »
NO. I've been dying to play it, but I am broke and have zip income/time.

Hey, I LIKE X and XII!  I think XII's combat was better than those before it by a long shot.

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Books / Re: Twilight is NOT the worst book ever!
« on: January 21, 2010, 09:11:25 AM »
No, I didn't.  I'd rather hold onto my brain cells.  I need to be sparing with them after reading all the Twilight books.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: ***SPOILERS Official Hero of Ages Spoilers Thread. Includes Q&A w/Brandon*
« on: January 21, 2010, 09:06:45 AM »
Atium can copy anything huh?  I like that!  But that begs the question, which of the other metals specifically steals temporal abilities?  It could be any of the four, since none of them have been Hemalurgically defined yet.

Well, I based that on a couple of things Brandon said before.  He said that in the future, due to genetic mingling, Feruchemy would break down into, essentially, mistings.  He also said that it would be possible for someone to have both a Feruchemical and Allomantic power, thus providing a precedent for having two abilities.

I don't see how it arching would imply either a gravitational or magnetically based pull.

Oh, I think 16 was a question I found the answer to while reading.

Well, I don't know about strength, but at the beginning of HOA Vin specifically notices the speed as a new thing.

I was under the impression that TLR never used Larasium at all and simply gained Allomancy from using the Well.

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Books / Re: Twilight is NOT the worst book ever!
« on: January 21, 2010, 05:32:33 AM »
When it comes to books, yes, Twilight is the worst book ever written.

But when it comes to fanfics?  My Immortal definitely takes the cake.  But at least that one's so bad you laugh pretty much the whole time.

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: January 21, 2010, 05:27:09 AM »
Well, the last thing I finished was HOA, but that goes in another forum.

I'm currently reading Fallen by Lauren Kate.  Penny Arcade said it might be the start of a new craze, kind of like Twilight(may they be known as the awful books they are), so I thought I'd preempt it by reading it and finding out if it's terrible or not.  So far, it's not doing so well.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: ***SPOILERS Official Hero of Ages Spoilers Thread. Includes Q&A w/Brandon****
« on: January 21, 2010, 05:06:30 AM »
I know it's kind of redundant by this point, but DANG.  HOA is officially my new favorite book!

I can proudly proclaim I read the entire thread!  (except for some parts relating to Elantris, but only to avoid spoilers)

Even though Brandon's been gone for more than 40 pages I'm still going to post my questions here.  You guys might be able to help me out for a couple of them.

1. What are the other Feruchemical and Hemalurgic applications for metals, the ones we haven't seen yet? (powers that is, not metals)
2. The Hemalurgic applications for the different metals seem to be grouped in fours, Human, Allomantic, Feruchemical (okay we only have two of those, but we've only got ten Feruchemical uses and six missing Hemalurgic uses), but what is the fourth set?
3. Since filling it makes you old, wouldn't the more accurate term for the Feruchemical use of Atium be storing youth?
4. We haven't seen Atium be used in Hemalurgy to steal anything other than the use of Atium.  Does it REALLY take Allomantic Temporal powers or just the use of Atium?
5. In the future, would the genetic blending of the different magics create misting of more than one Allomantic metal?  Like a duralumin and pewter misting?  (I'm expecting an RAFO on this, but that's okay)
6. Is it possible to have a Larasium misting?
7. Does Gold let you seen alternate timelines or just communicate with your past self?  Or can you not talk to the past?  Is it actually the past or simply a representation of it?
8. Do Hemalurgic spikes actually create sentience?  Since that's what happened to the kandra.  But aren't humans intelligent because they are more of Preservation than Ruin?  But wouldn't spiking a mistwraith make it more like Ruin?  Seems to contradict itself a bit.
9. Did Sazed make anyone else besides Spook into Mistborn?
10. If Hemalurgy is of Ruin and Larasium is of Preservation, would someone who's been spiked be able to burn Larasium at all?
11. Are Chromium and Nicrosil blocked by Copper in a form similar to Zinc and Brass?
12. If a mistborn capable of piercing copperclouds used bronze on a smoker, would he be able to use zinc or brass at the same time to affect them?  What I'm trying to say, does puncturing a Coppercloud get through their emotional immunity as well?
13. Do Iron and Steel function through a magnetic or gravitational attraction/repulsion?
14. Will we ever see posters of tables of Feruchemical and Hemalurgic elements?  Or posters for all of the Atium/Larasium abilities?
15.  Do Feruchemists have to Snap like Allomancers?
17. Which Feruchemical abilities did TLR give the original Inquisitors?  Since they obviously had at least healing, but he wouldn't want to risk having them be strong enough to compete with them if they ever got loose.

Yes, there's a lot of 'em.  I was writing them down when I was reading through the topic.

I also wanted to respond to a couple of people's comments and bring in my own.

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I suppose when it's put like that, Elend choosing not to fight - choosing to have the woman he loves kill herself - doesn't seem so bad if they just get an eternity of happiness. Maybe I've just been looking at it from the wrong angle, but to me I'd rather think that the events of the final book  mattered , and the two shouldn't have just killed themselves when Ruin got free. And if I think the book matters, then I think life matters, and then I'm back to being annoyed with their suicides to a plan millenia old....
Just because they had something to go to doesn't make their deaths any less of a sacrifice.  They had friends, people thy loved and cared about, and it's that very love that made it so they had to do what they did.

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Elend is alive -> Vin loves Elend -> Vin wants to be with Elend -> Vin values life with Elend.
Therefore Elend commits suicide (senselessness fully implied) to force Vin to comply with his ideals and do what he wants by removing any incentive for her to remain in the world of the living.
I didn't get the impression that Elend let Marsh kill him for this reason, at least, not by itself.  The Duralumin fueled Atium let him see (according to Brandon) "the whole of Preservation's plan and his place in it" or something to that effect.  I believe that releasing Vin from her previous inhibitions was one reason, but I also think that he saw that Marsh still had things to do and that killing him would mess things up more in the future than killing him then would fix.  His martyrdom will also probably have further influence on later generations, perhaps inspiring future leaders to have his dedication.  What I'm saying is that Elend's sacrifice was just that, a sacrifice, rather than suicide.  It had a meaning and purpose that we don't know of yet, and I trust that we'll get to see some of that in later books.

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Also, one last point that makes the ending rather muted - the future of the Mistborn world. Elend was the best ruler for the Empire. Without Vin at his side I could've seen him still succeeding. But with neither Vin nor Elend, I find it hard to imagine anyone else being able to hold the empire together...Breeze? Cares too little. Spook? Too young and with no understanding of politics. Cett? Maybe a good man inside, but we've had his flaws pointed out enough that we should be familiar. He lost his own  kingdom.
I disagree, I think that the near future for these characters, at least within their own lifetimes, will be about reconstruction rather than politics.  Even Cett would be able to see that.  I think Spook will do an excellent job.

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It was stated in FE that if a nobleman slept with a skaa woman, she had to be killed before she came to term. However, what happened with the reverse? What if a noblewoman took a skaa man to her bed? One could assume that such events wouldn't happen, but white women slept with black slaves during our own unfortunate period in history when the US had them, despite the illegality (and often lynching of both involved parties), though it is common knowledge that male slave owners slept with their female slaves much more. So, logically, it must have happened at least once in a thousand years. What then? Was the noblewoman killed, just as the skaa woman would be? I would think yes, but hey, it's worth an ask.
In the annotations for HOA, under one of the spoiler tags, it says that this happened to Slowswift's cousin.  She slept with a skaa man and was executed for it, generally bringing shame on their family.

Some people theorize that Brandon's going to add WoT to his overall cosmology, but I seriously doubt it.  It's not his series, so that would be rude!

I suppose a Gold misting would be extremely self-aware from seeing their life in hindsight, becoming a person of unprecedented character.  Also, being able to recall memories by asking the version of himself from the particular spot in time he'd want to remember.  I actually think the Electrum mistings are the ones who get shafted with no Atium to counter.

While I disagree with some of Shadowkiller's theories, he does have a good point about Brandon Sanderson being able to deceive us when it comes to the rules of magic.  There are a couple of blog posts that explain the concept of "Frames of Reference" which are about the difference between what the author knows, the readers know, and what each of the characters know.  Because of Atium's unique position as a god metal, it cannot (and should not) be assumed to obey the same rules as the others.  Because Atium has 16 possible alloys, it could be possible that an Atium misting could use all 17 metals derived from it, thus being a sort of Atium-born.  In fact, we've seen Brandon exploit this in-story, holding back more than a third of the metals and the third metallic art to use as plot twists later on.
(Which was brilliant, BTW)

Here's those blog posts:
http://atsiko.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/magicology-frames-of-reference-part-1/
http://atsiko.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/magicology-frames-of-reference-part-2/

P.S. How do you get the quote box to say who said it?  I just copied and pasted it.
And can you pothole a link?

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