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The only thing I can see happening with giving Kaladin more flashbacks is that it's the last book and we're looking back at things he's done throughout the series that we didn't see because we were in someone else's head at the time.

Well, that was one idea of many we had.  It's nice to have confirmation, though.

I just listened to the interview, and no, it doesn't say anything about the title of the next book.  But someone should transcribe it.

Do you really think Brandon's going to let that be the only interpretation for that?

no one uses $2 bills

My uncle sends me a $2 bill in his card every birthday. XP

I wonder why he is called the 'bearer of all agonies'

Can we get a page reference on that?  I don't recall that at all and I'm fairly good at picking up stuff like that. (fairly, not perfect, I could've missed it)

when Shallan thinks about 9 colors of gems, i'm sure she includes diamonds. But, garnet and ruby might be considered to be the same color. Also, we don't know what color the zircons in this system are (real zircons have lots of colors).

Good point, I forgot about that.

The ironic would be that the process has actual historical basis for being evil.

I never said that Shallan and Jasnah do different things.  They do the same thing, but in different ways.  Jasnah lacks ability with organic things, where Shallan, with her obvious connection to blood, would probably develop a specialty for it.

The red gem doesn't really relate to this conversation, the picture is from the wrong page.  I'm pretty sure the other side represents the orders, with their connection to the Herald images.

As far as we know, every other magic type used by the Radiants has only one order, so I'd assume that Soulcasting would only get one unless there is some specific difference between the use of it.  It may be the same difference we get between Shallan and Jasnah, proficiencies with different essences, but it is probably more than that.  Also, the orders seem to each have a different type of spren bonded to them, this may be what separates the two.

Concerning Taln calling himself Stonesinew, this is probably used to say "muscles of stone", thus making the connection with his own essence stronger.  The name is a complete thought, rather than two separate things put together.  It's like saying that someone with a title like Dragonslayer has something to do with dragons and with killing but not necessarily killing dragons.

Did anyone else notice that one of the line connections on the chart is between Amethyst and Ruby?  These two are the gems used for the conjoined fabrials.

Quote from: Fireborn on October 01, 2010, 08:04:37 AM

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"What of the creatures with the symbol heads?"  Shallan asked.  She flipped through her sketches, then held up an image of them.  "Do you see them too?  How are they related?"

Jasnah frowned, taking the image, "You see beings like this?  In Shadesmar?"

"They appear in my drawings," Shallan said.  "They're around me, Jasnah.  You don't see them?  Am I-"

Jasnah held up a hand.  "These are a type of spren, Shallan.  They are related to what you do."  She tapped the desk softly.  "Two orders of the Knights Radiant possessed inherent Soulcasing ability; it was based on their powers that the original fabirals were designed, I believe.  I had assumed that you...But no, that obviously wouldn't make sense.  I see now."

Am I remembering it wrong now?

Apparently just reading it wrong. There's nothing in that quote that says that there are two different types of Soulcasting, and there's nothing that says Jasnah doesn't also deal with these spren. She was alarmed when she thought that Shallan saw them in Shadesmar, but that's not what Shallan meant. Even Shallan can't see them really; they only show up in her drawings.

If there weren't two different types of Soulcasting, then why would they have two orders for them?  One type of magic to an order makes a lot more sense than nine types with two orders of identical magic.

Regardless, this difference implies that there is a difference between how they use Soulcasting.  Even if it is just the different things they can do with it.  This could be enough to form a split in the magic that would make it worth separating into two orders of Knights.

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2/10 Orders of Knights Radiants possessed inherent Soulcasting ability.  Does that mean Knights from other Orders could learn to do it as well?

It depends on whether or not fabrial technology was in use at the time, probably. It appears as though each order of the Radiants had two abilities, and each ability was shared by two orders (hence the connections on the Double Eye chart).

I doubt that Knights not of the Soulcasting orders could do so without a Fabrial.  The way Jasnah and Shallan do things rings more of inborn magic than learned.