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Books / what are these books/stories?
« on: January 30, 2010, 02:56:06 AM »
Someone I used to work with told me about these 2 years ago and I can't remember their names. I think it is a shared world, but not sure. Here is what he told me.

Alternate reality armies attack our reality. This reality has muskets and flying ships because that is how they naturally evolved. In one story they fight it out with the SWAT of some city.

That is all I remember. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: questions about brandon
« on: January 29, 2010, 04:45:18 PM »
Peter: Who are Brandons favorite authors and books?
What are your favorite books?

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Books / Re: Fantasy girls, where are you?
« on: January 29, 2010, 12:00:35 AM »
George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire have alot of female characters.

I second Song of Ice and Fire series

I feel obligated to give a little warning about A Song of Ice and Fire. Are the books awesome? YES!

BUT, don't expect the series to get finished. He's been working on the latest book for over 4 years. (More like 7 years because book 4 was split in publication.) Even after all that time there is still no clue when the next book will get finished. The last official update on his site is over 2 years old.

The existing books are great to read, but don't expect any closure to the story any time soon, if at all.

Those who like Robert Jordan understand that. He has written other stuff in the last few years. I think he has published 2 novels. He runs a shared world of short stories called Wild Cards. I heard they were good. He also has a 3rd book of short stories with alot of big named authors (called Warriors) out soon.

HBO filmed a pilot for his song of ice and fire books last fall. I think GRRM actually wrote the screenplay. He hinted at it on his website. If he is writing the screenplays for the hbo series, his books will take a long time to get done... that is really time consuming.

I like GRRMs blog. www.georgerrmartin.com

Gotta follow a fellow Giants and Jets fan! BTW, GRRM was friends with Robert Jordan.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: questions about brandon
« on: January 28, 2010, 11:55:05 PM »
I know Brandon likes

Robert Jordan
Terry Pratchett
Stephen Erickson

Who are some of Brandons other favorite authors?
Peter: Who are some of your favorite authors?

Kaz: I have read many of those

To kill a mockingbird is not sci-fi and every high school kid is required to read it anyway.
I did not like Stranger in a Strange Land. The book I liked by Heinlein is Starship Troopers. Much better than the movie
Ringword: Read the first one. I thought it was ok.
WoT: I found brandon since he took this over
Dune: Not a huge fan of this series. Books 5 and 6 were terrible. I did like books 1 and 4.
Asimov: I don't like his writing style. Nothing happens until the last page of a chapter.
Mistborn: On Book 2 now
Song of Ice and Fire: Waiting and waiting and waiting on book 5...
Flowers for Algernon: Another one of the high school required reading
Amber: I have had teh big book of amber on my shelf for years. I never read it. I'll give it a shot.

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Books / Re: Fantasy girls, where are you?
« on: January 27, 2010, 06:30:37 PM »
George RR Martin's Song of Ice and Fire have alot of female characters. Not all are good and alot get killed. He kills off alot of characters. HBO filmed the pilot for this for a series based on these books.

His books are adult fiction. They have alot of sex and violence. They are very good, but meant for adults.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: questions about brandon
« on: January 26, 2010, 01:50:35 PM »
So is Brandon friends with alot of these other fantasy writers? i am guessing he knows Jim Butcher? I would assume that alot of Science Fiction and Fantasy writers get to know each other from the cons. George RR Martin wrote multiple times that he was good friends with Robert Jordan.

Terry Pratchet writes more light-hearted and satirical fantasy rigtht? I think Brandon said he likes Pratchet. If I am going to read 1 pratchet book which should it be?

Does Brandon or any of the fan base here have a list of books they like? I went to the main page to look for some books, but I have to cycle through lots of reviews. You don't have them listed with stars. As I have said before, most Science Fiction and Fantasy is not that good.

So far people here like Stephen Erickson, Jim Butcher (semi-mixed reviews), and Terry Pratchet(which book should I read?)


I am still on the 2nd mistborn book. I don't have alot of couch time for reading. I am listening to Fires of Heaven on tape and going through all of them on tape before reading book 12. I read the books years ago and stopped at about book 9 I think. So I forgot alot. The performances of the audio books for Wheel of Time is VERY good. It is a different experience listening to all of them at once instead of waiting years between books. I also use the WoT Encyclopedia to find stuff I missed. I never realized that Tom Merrillons stories were references to us in the first age.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: questions about brandon
« on: January 25, 2010, 03:25:38 PM »
his books have been turned into a B grade TV series called Legend of the Seeker. Anyone else think this series is loaded with S&M references?

The confessor is called "mistress"
The Amazon Woman warriors (mord sith? or something like that) dress like dominatrix and do you see what their weapons really look like? (this appears to be a fairly conservative forum and there may be kids so i won't say it explicitly)

I have a question for Peter: Brandon either wrote or said in an interivew that I saw that he learned alot from how Robert Jordan laid out a long series. How is Brandon plotting his Way of Kings series? Does he know the ending? Does he have rough outlines of each of the books? I have seen some good series get lost from not doing this. Stephen Kings Dark Tower series was great for the first 3 books, then got lost. It was obvious he had no idea where he wanted to go and then couldn't find his direction.

Has anyone read the Jim Butcher fantasy books? It looks like he set his in a roman empire like world. He is well known for the Dresden files. I never read those. I am not into mysteries. I am wondering if these are any good.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: questions about brandon
« on: January 24, 2010, 08:03:53 PM »
I read about the first 100 pages of Goodkinds first book. I didn't like it. I thought it was low grade B level fantasy. I remember throwing the book in the garbage. I won't read a book just to finish it. If I don't like it, I won't waste my time. I also need to point out that there are books I don't like because they don't fit my taste, that others really like.

I can't see how anyone would think that Goodkinds books are even in Robert Jordans league. To be fair the question about Goodkind and Jordan being in the same world is kind of silly. But that was an obnoxious response. I thought it was funny that he liked Stephen Counts. He writes B grade pulp thrillers. He made a super likeable every girl wants hero with generic writing. I read one book by him and did not like it.

It is good that goodkind doesn't read reviews. His latest book got killed. To be fair, the 1000s of negative responses to Jordans 10th book on Amazon didn't really affect his writing.

I am liking the 2nd mistborn book. About 100 pages into it.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: questions about brandon
« on: January 24, 2010, 04:41:52 AM »
can someone post a link to the article that goodkind wrote where he said he doesnt like fantasy?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: questions about brandon
« on: January 23, 2010, 11:59:34 PM »
Where doe Goodking and Rowling say that they dont like fantasy and don't want to be associated with fantasy? I read about the first 100 pages of Goodkinds first book and pitched it years ago. I thought it was amateurish B grade writing.

To be honest, alot of fantasy is really bad. I stopped reading fantasy for a long time (other than GRRM and Robert Jordan) because every time I would read the book cover to see what a fantasy book was about they all seemed to be the same story. Some kingdom is in trouble and they need so and so hero to save the day. Then again most fiction in general is not very good. I moved more into Science Fiction since they seemed to be about different stories, plus there are alot of different types. I really got into hard sci fi for a long time (Stephen Baxter, Harry Turtledove, and Neal Stephenson were my favorites). I recently read a sci-fi book called Spin which is completely original and different from any other sci-fi novel I ever read (Stephen King said the Robert Charles Wilson is his favorite sci fi author).

I am reading fantasy again a little bit, but I am choosy. I don't want to read about yet another hero who goes off to save the day. Especially with the really poor writing. I also read alot of historical fiction. I like historical fiction, particularly ancient and medievil history. I have to research the authors before i waste my time. Some authors spend incredible amounts of time on the research (Colleen McCullough, Sharon Kay Penman, and Steven Saylor to name a few, plus of course The Pillars of the Earth which is the best novel I have ever read), but alot learn bits and pieces of history and clearly don't know what they are writing about.

So I get where some self hating fantasy writers are coming from. Most of it is just bad. Where does Terry Goodkind and JK Rowling say they dont like fantasy?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: questions about brandon
« on: January 23, 2010, 12:20:29 AM »
Why doesn't Brandon like Terry Goodkind. Something about what goodkind wrote about fantasy readers right?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: questions about brandon
« on: January 22, 2010, 01:09:39 AM »
Brandon's presentation from jordancon is on google video. He said he likes Stephen Erickson also. Has anyone read him? I have never heard of him.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: questions about brandon
« on: January 21, 2010, 02:41:07 PM »
how many books has brandon sold? I see bestseller lists, but I have no idea how many sales it takes to geton there. If you are 20th on the New York Times bestseller list for a week. Is that 20,000 sales?

also, when brandon goes on book signings, is that something that the publisher pays? Or does it get taken out of his commission?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: questions about brandon
« on: January 21, 2010, 02:13:33 PM »
I just finished the first mistborn books and I don't recall any mention of Adonalsium? Did I miss something. I just started the 2nd one.

Thank you for the answers guys. I am not trying to start a fight on the forums with my questions about BYU.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: questions about brandon
« on: January 20, 2010, 09:16:20 PM »
Peter...

You missed these... I am the question man on these forums.

1. Why does Brandon use EUOL for his name? Most authors with sites use their own names. What does it stand for?

2. I am most of the way through the first mistborn book. I hope to finish it tonight (as I said, I don't have alot of time for reading right now so it takes me 2 weeks to finish a book). I don't recall seeing anything about the shard world info. I saw a post on the forum about how elantris, warbreaker, and mistborn are related as shardworld.

is that the atium? Does that appear in all the books? don't give away too much. I am at the beginning of the 5th part (I think).

3. when you publish a book. I am guessing that the commission on sales comes after it covers the advance right? So if you get an advance of $10,000 and you have a 10% commission (I have no idea what it is) on a hardcover. I would guess the publisher sells the hardcover to the bookstore for say $12/book?(how much do publishers sell books to bookstores for?) I am not sure. so you get $1.20/book, but you don't get any of the commission money until the first $10,000 is covered. Then 15% of that goes to the Agent.

4. I often see alot of bestsellers on mark down at bookstores. So they bought too many books. Do bookstores only pay full price for books they actually sell at full price? They always seem to buy too m any books so after a few months you can get a $20 book for $6.
I am also willing to bet that most authors don't sell enough to write full time.


5. Who are some of Brandons other favorite authors? I saw a presentation he did at Jordancon(it is on google video) where he mentioned the Thomas Covenant books. I have had those on a shelf for 10 years. He also liked the Dragonbone chair(I think I read part of this and didn't like it a long tiem ago_). For some reason he doesn't like Terry Goodkind personally (I read part of his first book and didn't like it). Who else does he like?

5. Is the Lord Ruler in part based on the Tyrant from Dune? This is the son of Paul Muadib. He is not in the movie and is only a child at the end of the Sci-Fi series. He is the tyrant in the 4th book. They are very similiar. Tyrants who don't raelly want to be tyrants, live along time, and are basically depressed about it all.

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