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Yeah, that's exactly the quote I was referencing.  I could have sworn it was in the second book, though.  Ah well.  Stupid memory.  ::hits self in head::

That's almost scary how you looked that up.  :p 

Let's say someone stored a year of strength.  I think if one were to draw on that power to double your strength, it would last for nearly a year.  (Though that seems overpowered, so I could be wrong.)

However, if I were to quadruple my strength, it would last for significantly less than 6 months.  And if I were to multiply my strength by 8, it would last very significantly less than 3 months. 

Considering how easily Sazek uses up his metalminds during the siege of Luthandel, I think the returns diminish very quickly.  For however much he had stored up, he was able to expend nearly *all* in a few hours.

There may not be a theoretical ceiling to a Feruchemist's abilities (though it could be approaching a limit), but I think there's definitely a practical one.  You can only store so much. 

The problem is more than a prepositional amount could be a inconsequential amount such as an additional .001 per 100% increase  or a ridiculous increase like x4 additional energy cost per additional level of use. I can't find a solid reference regarding the scale of the increase.     

It is just to vague to throw out solid numbers without presenting them as best guess

"Brandon help us"

His fighting power predominately comes from being one of the original mistborn. And a duralimin fueled pewter mistborn is going to be a, to fast, agile, and resistant to "rip off their head" (pewter boost sense of balance and is easier to adjust to it's than boosting speed in feruchemy) so no duralimin tips the balance so far in a mistborns favor that their is no longer a competition. I mean a duralimin fueled coin push is faster than a normal bullet, and a bullet is faster than sound.

If you had enough health stored would it really matter if you get hit with a coin

For story line I would pick Allomancy for myself I would pick Feruchemy

Durillaim does boost ability to a new level but it is still a level (ceiling on the Ability ) just the same.  Anytime there is a ability without a defined ceiling like Feruchemy thats the ability I will chose every time from a gaming (RPG) perspective. However anything without a defined ceiling should not be available for PCs. (Sorry I slipped into gamer mode)      

 I love Allomancers because of their limitations not in spite of. Having to find interesting and creative ways to overcome obstacles with defined limitations makes them interesting and entertaining. If the Allomancers in the books had been all powerfully it would have made for a boring book. Allomancers not being all powerful is what makes them awesome. Convince me Allomancers can't be beet and I will lose interest in them in a heartbeat.  

"Real gamers use Dice"

Feruchemy

The best part of storing memory would be the ability to read your favorite books over and over again like it’s the first time. Elmandr and Reaves could watch Scrubs again.

It would burn up faster but yeah you should be able to.

It would burn up fast based off witch of the following dynamics? 
(A) The dramatic change in body structure 
(B) The difference in age (keep in mind we could be talking about a 18year old turning back only 8 years)
(C) A and B
(D) None  of the above
(C) I don't know

That is strange because a 10 year old Feruchemist  would gaining strength and speed that comes with being 20 year old matured adult and if you go the other way the 10 year old Feruchemist  becomings an infant helpless and fragile. It almost seems that before maturity the dynamic would be flipped giving up energy being underdeveloped and use that energy to become closer to fully developed.

Also if it is development following this line of thought could one not spend a large bust of age becoming something smaller than an infant and be slipped under a door to gain access to a locked room? 

It seems there should be a breaking point between the two or its not usable till a Feruchemist reaches maturity.

Poor seaoftrouble let us listen to him talk to himself.
Sea:  screams "I am still recovering from my crumbled illusions that it what was not actual age bing adjusted but the toll time takes on a body!"

 Trouble: whispers "Sea this could be clouding your judgment, let it go you were working off pure speculation anyway"
 
Sea:  Silently sits wishing he could get rid of trouble without offing himself at the same time. "I hate it when he makes since" 

Quote from: Seaoftrouble on January 09, 2010, 06:05:50 AM

When using Feruchemy to increase abilities does it take more of a Feruchemist’s energy reserve to gain the same ability increase bonus at higher levels of use? Let’s use speed as an example, would it take the same amount of the Feruchemist’s energy to go from 2mph to 3mph as it would to go from 202mph to 203mph?

Yeah, Sazed went into that in Book... was it 2 or 3?

Also, that was such a big bump it was practically an earthquake.

Thank you it was talked about near the end of book 1.
“Yes, Master Marsh. However, Feruchemy gives decreasing returns—it takes more than the proportionate amount
of strength, for instance, to make yourself four times as strong as a regular man, as opposed to simply twice as strong.
 

OK now for my next question:  I know Feruchemy can remove or increase the effects of age going from healthy and young to old and decrepit, but could Feruchemy be used to become a child or could a child grow into an adult using Feruchemy?

My thought is a 20 year old Feruchemist can't become 10year old child, but I am looking for clarification because of a debate taking place in a RPG campaign.         

You got anything on Feruchemy as well that system is really kicking my #%@. The issue I have is if there is no ceiling yo how much energy can be realest at one time how can it be affordable to players without me having to say you can only spend so much time with that bracelet or you can only channel so much energy at a given time. 80% off the cost of infinite is still infinity. Also there is the issue of diminishing returns talked about in the first book.

“Yes, Master Marsh. However, Feruchemy gives decreasing returns—it takes more than the proportionate amount
of strength, for instance, to make yourself four times as strong as a regular man, as opposed to simply twice as strong.


Decreasing returns might be the saving grace that places some kind of ceiling on certain abilities, this would help with figuring out point cost.   

Quote from: Seaoftrouble on January 10, 2010, 08:38:09 AM

There is no better narrator than Michael Kramer

Rubbish. Kramer is no more than decent. The errors I described above are evidence enough.

Patrick Tull is awesome.

I listened to some of Tull’s work he is very good. I would not have him read The Gunslinger by Stephen King but he would be perfect for A Mid Summer’s Night Dream or anything by Tokien. Is there an example of his work that does not make use of his accent like a western, something by Tom Clancy or Hunter Thompson perhaps?

It’s just I can’t picture him reading Under The Dome or the Outsiders can you?