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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Soulcasting too powerful!
« on: January 17, 2011, 01:39:27 AM »
Keep in mind that because tWOK was deliberately light on magic details, we might not have got an accurate impression of how hard it is to Soulcast, especially seeing Shallan is the only person we see do it in viewpoint, and she soulcasts directly to one of the essences rather than something more complicated.

As above we also don't have much of an idea about how quickly soulcasting uses up gems or stormlight yet, so I think it's a little premature to cry foul already.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Alloy of Law Information?
« on: January 17, 2011, 01:13:04 AM »
Why a lesbian?

What a strange question... why any other type of character? Because that's who they are, and that lets them play their role in the story.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: knights radient
« on: January 10, 2011, 04:37:54 AM »
Can I just throw out a random theory on the Knights Radiant here? I was reading the back of the book, and ended up just staring at the line, "before the Heralds abandoned us and the Knights Radiant turned against us." for ten minutes.
For no apparently reason it occurred to me that maybe the Radiants have somehow 'fallen from grace' for lack of a better term, and that maybe they got cursed, or something to that effect.

It's been a long time since I have had the book--I just barely got it back--and I'm too lazy to look it up, but I remember something about the Voidbringers being the parshmen, or at least that's what Jasnah thinks. Any chance the Radiants are Parshendi? or vise versa?

I just had to write it down before I started pulling apart the flaws :P

Any thoughts?

It might explain why they seem to have access to shards. We run into the issue of where the Spren for the Parshendi are, given that characters that should be able to see them (e.g. Rock and Kaladin) can't. This isn't insurmountable given we also have to explain Szeth's apparent lack of or suppression of his Spren.

There still seem to be magic systems we don't know about, so this could for instance explain how high the Parshendi can jump.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: knights radient
« on: October 17, 2010, 09:43:52 AM »
You're forgetting that a connection between man and spren doesn't necessarily mean man and honorspren.  It's been stated that it could be another type of spren, maybe flame, rot, death, wind etc... So if that is the case who know what other kind of powers there could be.  We've seen a surgebinders powers as far as windrunning used by Kaladin and Szeth, the lashing and so on but I don't think we've seen everything yet.  The powers that Kaladin and Szeth are almost unheard of and not much is known.  Only one character had even a slight idea of what Kaladin was doing and he came from a family who was passing the knowledge down through the generations.  As far as Szeth having his powers through his oathstone I'm not so sure about that.  He has never actually had it in his possession, only his masters have.  Now he could be connected to it and have powers that way, but it sounds like that would be a first as every fabrial or magical type item, from shards to lanterns, have had to be touched in some way to be manipulated. 

The working theory we've been going on is that each Order has an affinity with a different type or type(s) of Spren.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Thunderclasts *WoK Spoilers*
« on: October 10, 2010, 01:25:44 AM »
Anyone else considered that this could be why the shattered plains exist? ;)

Wasn't the Shattered Plains once the site of a great city/nation? Maybe during a desolation something happened involving voidbinding and thunderclasts which shattered the earth and created the plateaus.

Yeah, because they grew thunderclasts out of the ground making huge freaking canyons during the attack.

It could happen! :)

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Thunderclasts *WoK Spoilers*
« on: October 07, 2010, 08:05:47 AM »
Anyone else considered that this could be why the shattered plains exist? ;)

Brandon Sanderson / Re: *Spoilers* General Shard List
« on: September 29, 2010, 04:36:30 AM »
I would like to insert here that we don't know all the shards involved in Roshar.  There are FOUR involved.  Odium, the Almighty, Cultivation and an unknown one.

Odium wasn't one of the three that created Roshar in the first place; those would be the Almighty, Cultivation, and the unknown.  Odium came after the fact, as it were, and has presumably been really messing around.  For a long time, apparently.

There are four involved? Where's that from? :)

Is it possible to try and assign numbers to the shards? Each world seems to have magic numbers. Mistborn is the most obvious, with Preservation liking the number 16. The number 10 is big in the Stormlight Archive. And after reading Warbreaker again, it seems like the number 5 shows up a lot: the five scholars, the five visions, Returned are of the fifth Heightening, and a few other places.

Would it be crazy to guess that Endowment is the 5th shard, The Almighty of WoK is the 10th, and Preservation was the 16th?

The only problem I see is that Ruin never had a number manifested (but that could just be because Preservation had more contact with humans), and on other worlds with multiple shards it'd be hard to decide what numbers are special, and which shard sponsors them.

I can't think of any numbers from Elantris either. Can anyone else help me out?

Ruin could have been 4th, and 4 4s are 16...

Also, 16 is supposedly significant to the entire Cosmere, not just Scadriel, so perhaps RUIN is 16th, and Preservation used it because of its wider significance. Or perhaps it's all coincidence. ;)

<snip of quoted quotes>

He says he began life as a thought and concept. Is it possible that he wasn't originally human like the others appeared to be, but some creature from Shadesmar?

Or perhaps he's just playing on words and one of his names had a meaning related to thoughts or concepts.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK: The Heralds *Spoilers*
« on: September 28, 2010, 07:54:18 AM »
Nohadon said "alas, not all spren are as discerning as honorspren" in one of Dalinar's visions.

Hmm yeah I'd forgotten about that. Still there is a conspicuous lack of spren everywhere else, I'm not willing to believe Brandon just forgot to include them. There has to be a reason they aren't mentioned.

It could just be the "white room effect" where Dalinar simply wasn't paying attention to the Spren, but it is a little suspicious. I wouldn't call it a huge thing, though.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Spren and the Almighty (SPOILERS-for Mistborn too)
« on: September 28, 2010, 04:56:40 AM »
That's pretty good speculation. :) I guess we'll see! :)

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Is stormlight sentient?? (major spoilers)
« on: September 28, 2010, 04:53:49 AM »
Shadesmar is definitely the cognitive realm. Which means I'm sure that everything, even goblets could possibly have sentience in this realm. Though I thought that struck me is maybe the spren that is hidden in the goblet (as theorised by Kaladin's mum) is merely the cognitive form of that goblet. So Shallan is talking to both the goblet and its spren (one and the same).

Where the stormlight comes from is interesting. It is not already in Shadesmar, and if we accept that the bead she was holding came from shadesmar, then where did the stormlight come from? Do they just have to be on her (such as in her safepouch) or does she actually have to be touching them?

It could simply be that you draw in all the stormlight-infused items around you. It would be very problematic if you could come to Shadesmar without Stormlight and have difficulty finding it, so it would make a lot more sense as a magic system if you brought your Stormlight with you.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Shards (Elantris and WoK spoilers)
« on: September 27, 2010, 06:45:15 AM »
Why would Odium splinter Aona and Skai's shards? Why not take them for himself?
Probably because he couldn't use them, much like Ruin couldn't use Preservation's.

So what makes Sazed so special that he can use both? Is it because he has not been corrupted totally by one shard? Maybe when Ruin first got the shard (back when he was a nice guy) he would have been able to take preservations shard as well, but he was too good a guy. But after years of holding one shard, it corrupted him so much that he could no longer hold preservation, it would conflict with his whole sense of being. (I know, i just answered my own question  :-[)

Well, there's two options...

Either anyone on Scadrial could have wielded either or both powers because they had been made by both Ruin and Preservation, or any feruchemist could have done it, having a power with elements of both Ruin and Preservation. I would suspect it might be the latter, and that you need some sort of attunement with a shard to use it- Brandon used language very similar to that when talking about Vin using the Well's powers in Mistborn.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: Is stormlight sentient?? (major spoilers)
« on: September 27, 2010, 06:38:55 AM »
No, the beads in Shadesmar weren't all currency gems. She was drowning in a see of them, but there was one in her hand, specifically, the thing she was touching in the Physical Realm, the goblet. (She wasn't touching her currency gems, as they were in her Safepouch I believe.) She communicated with the goblet's somewhat intelligent manifestation in the Cognitive realm, which was represented by a bead. She asked the bead to change (unintentionally), and gave it stormlight in order to do so.
Soulcasting is essentially bribing the conscious representation of items (their spren, perhaps?) in order to make them change form.

I have a feeling that the beads in shadesmar were different from the beads which hold stormlight, which is what she was clutching in her hand. That was why when she went to shadesmar the second time without a stormlight infused gem she nearly got lost. If the gems in the sea where stormlight infused, she wouldn't have had a problem the second time.

In addition, note that the map of shadesmar on the back cover corresponds to the land of Roshar. Does this mean that when Shallan visited shadesmar, she went to the sea of lost thoughts? (I dont have the US book, so I am reading this off blurry pictures. Is this correct?) Would it make a difference to her soulcasting if she was in a different region of shadesmar?

The context of the sentence heavily implied the bead was one of the ones from the sea of beads, not a normal infused sphere.

As for Shadesmar, you could be right, but Jasnah's warning on entering Shadesmar without sufficient stormlight probably implies that it's dangerous in some way wherever you enter it.

Do we really know enough about the parshendi to judge whether they are motivated by hate? Everything they have done is clouded in mystery, making it hard to discern their true motives.
We know how they act.

Either they're not motivated by hate, or their definition of "hate" is very different from ours.

Or this is how they act when they aren't actively touched by Odium. We have enough information to make a few assumptions, but even whether Jasnah's assumptions about the voidbringers are true is debatable. Trying to figure out Odium's exact connections with the Parshmen or Parshendi from what we have is reaching too far, imo.

I'm not saying we can't speculate, but that we don't really have a basis to treat any of our assumptions about the Parsh- whatevers as fact yet.

Brandon Sanderson / Re: WOK: Navani's Notebook Translation *MAJOR SPOILERS*
« on: September 25, 2010, 12:27:36 AM »
Not to mention that the English language, especially American English, is (as the singer put it) ka-RAAAYY-zeeee... it's loaded with synonymic idiosyncrasies and pronunciation/definition tricks that you generally only pick up in context.

While English is a little worse than other languages because we steadfastly resist a comprehensive spelling reform, (I'm not talking about the vague and half-hearted attempts Americans well-meaningly implemented to clean up a little, that's not even a beginning) I think crazy is going a bit far. All languages have irregularities because that's just how languages evolve, because there's some interchange of words and they don't always get fully (or sometimes not even partially) naturalised, and finally because irregular words make the words themselves stand out, which can be pretty convenient for an irregular verb like "to be".

I've seen a quote somewhere stating something like "English likes to hunt down other languages in dark alleys and go through their pockets for loose grammar." English is an unusually difficult language to learn for non-native speakers because it has a huge number of words, phrases, and special cases adopted from other languages, and many of these have exceptions to normal English grammatical rules because for that particular word/phrase/etc. the rules of the language it came from were adopted with it. As a result, English has an enormous number of exceptions to every rule, and really learning the language well requires learning both the rules and the gigantic list of exceptions.

From the perspective of designing a language from scratch, English has an extremely impractical and illogical language design. This hasn't done anything to stop it from becoming the dominant language in much (most?) of the world.

Your quote is from Terry Pratchett. :)

Brandon Sanderson / Re: *Spoilers* General Shard List
« on: September 17, 2010, 09:18:47 AM »
Brandon has already confirmed that we have encountered splinters in Warbreaker in the form of the Returned.

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