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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm - First Impressions *SPOILERS*
« on: November 09, 2009, 02:54:52 AM »
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The True Source incident... I literally jumped out of my seat.  So FREAKING AWESOME how that worked.  But now I want to understand why he was able to use it (not to mention, I want to find out if my guess about Rand using the True Source to seal the Dark One this time around is accurate...).

Rand crossed balefires with Moridin, and their dreams are coming together now, too. I imagine they have a certain amount of access to each other's powers as a result, hence why Rand can touch the True Source when only Moridin is supposed to be able to.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Magic Systems
« on: November 09, 2009, 02:29:36 AM »
I'll share one of the magic systems I'm working on in Dreamspace. :)

The basic rules are relatively simple: It's the ability to move and convert different types of energy at the cost of a little wastage- for instance using the wind to move objects around, using a candle to burn things, etc... There's a lot more detail to it than that, such as how the magic was made, (I have human-made magic in this universe) and some extra abilities that have personal costs to the Idamancer, but that's the basics of it. Amusingly, Idamancers also sense magic as music in a similar way to what you've been talking about- to me the musical sense was the familiar idea, and the physics-based energy transmission the strange one.

edit: On weaknesses/costs of magic: Almost any cost can be an advantage in the right circumstances, and you'll notice that Brandon uses this sometimes in his magic systems- eg. giving away Breath as a distraction in Warbreaker. An Allomancer could potentially get rid of incriminating metal items using the "cost" of their magic, too. The trick is coming up with a cost that provides an advantage only in very specific circumstances, and structuring your setting realistically so that the fuel for magic becomes appropriately precious that it stays a disadvantage.

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I wrote this for my blog, but it fits here so I'm gonna repost it. :)



I've just finished reading The Gathering Storm.  I'm now going to rant about how I feel about how the book was written, having finished reading.

Firstly: Oh my god, what a great read. Without getting into spoilers, the plotline for Rand, and Egwene's struggle, and finding out exactly what was going on with Verin Sedai are simply full of win. The plotting here is so spot-on that more and more I can't understand the perspective of fans who were, presented with preview chapters, trying to nitpick what was written by Sanderson and what by Jordan. It might help that I was familiar with and liked both authors before coming to this book, but there is simply too much right here to justify anyone doubting that Brandon can get this project over the finish line. Hopefully everyone who liked the series has given him a chance to prove that.

Secondly: Brandon stayed true to and made good on his promise to make this a Wheel of Time book, but not try to pretend to be Jordan. There were short chapters here that Jordan would never have published- he favoured long threadlike chapters that he wove together slowly. There are names that don't quite sound the same as others in the Wheel of Time universe. But nothing that doesn't work. There is nothing that makes this a bad story. Every time I felt I was going to be thrown out of the story because events had twisted away from my expectations, Brandon recovered me by showing me that it was just good tension and plotting that left me guessing. I was feeling as if I was about to be thrown out of the story because the events were fulfilling promises in unexpected ways, which is exactly what any author worth their salt would do- it's just that the twists are getting much bigger now that the series is wrapping up, so the tension was good enough that it had me questioning if what I was guessing would even happen. And of course, in those cases, it didn't. ;)

The rules that Wheel of Time characters follow- that revelations are dramatic, that secrets are important, that the genders feel mutually incomprehensible to each other, that earning trust is hard- it's all still there. Nobody acts wrong. All the characters have their same motivations, and the new ones we discover make perfect sense. There were even things that had eluded me in previous novels that I picked up in this book, because Sanderson got into the character's heads a bit more, rather than telegraphing their feelings with body language or reactionary thoughts, and leaving the motivations behind them undescribed. The advantage of being near the end of the series! It all builds properly on everything that came before it, and it fits so deliciously in. There is no "McDune" problem here, not that I had expected to find one, but I was surprised to find that I didn't have time to worry once I had a chance to sit down with the book. I was too busy wanting to get back at the next chapter when I needed to break from reading.

There are a few parts where you can tell we're going at what for Jordan would have been breakneck pace. A lot more seems to happen "off-camera" than generally happened in the middle of the series, (There was certainly a lot of off-camera action at the beginning, however. This is still within the bounds of how The Wheel Of Time was written) and, as earlier, the chapter structure seems a little bit different from other Wheel of Time books. That's as much as I really want to say that skirts comparing Jordan and Sanderson; I'm not going to spoil the experience of the rest of this series by trying to figure out in much detail what's changed since Knife of Dreams, and the things I've mentioned are small changes of focus that any author could choose to make during their own series. The awesome lingering reminders of the Mat/Tuon relationship and the fast pacing are both still there from Knife of Dreams, which frankly, would have been enough for me on its own.

The Aes Sedai acted like Aes Sedai. Perrin was appropriately torn. Mat was a rascal with a heart of gold. And that's all you're getting without spoilers. There was, however, a small amount of Brandon's tendency to do a lot in his endings, but this wasn't the usual traffic jam that he wields at the end of a book, tying everything up neatly in parallel. There was still the usual serene close of Wheel of Time books, with the usual relaxed room to ponder just exactly what is coming next.

The novel excited me. I didn't want to put it down. (I managed, however, when I had to get off the bus. Somehow.) If you were still on the fence, I simply want to say this: The pattern is in good hands. Brandon's earned the trust that Harriet put in him, and then some. :)

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Favourite book
« on: October 25, 2009, 10:10:11 AM »
Yeah i just remembered what my uncle (who graduated 1st in his class at Rice for his Phd in astro physics needless to say as Suma Kumlaudi) told me about our debate earlier. First he laughed, then he explained that no science was more important or more difficult than any other though some are progressing faster than others.


And why are there so little votes for FE

It's kinda hard for a book that's establishing a universe to really go all-out and wow us because there's a tendency to overwhelm us with new information. Mistborn did pretty well on that front. :)

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Book 13 Title
« on: October 24, 2009, 09:08:03 PM »
Isn't one of the Seanchan prophecies that the Dragon must kneel to the Crystal throne?
That was presumably one of the corruptions that Ishamael introduced to their prophecies, which are based off of the same books of prophecies that are found in the Westlands.

Given that Rand is demanding to meet with Tuon and only Tuon, it could well become true in some form regardless.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Book 13 Title
« on: October 08, 2009, 05:22:37 AM »
I specifically recall at least a few scenes being set in Seanchan. Was that in book 8? It's been so long. 11 years, you know. I guess I'll find out in a few months when I get that far in my reread.

There was that one time when Avi accidentally Travelled, but I think that was it.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Brandon's Twitter Page
« on: October 08, 2009, 03:07:30 AM »
That was you? Congratulations!

I'm betting we'll see an Adrienne Sedai- it would make a great AS name.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Best Plot Twist in Mistborn *Spoilers*
« on: September 21, 2009, 04:56:56 AM »
Fans always obsessively try and pick apart books, and there will always be someone who guesses a plot twist so long as it's capable of being guessed for any popular book. The test is really if it was easy- and I don't think the earring thing really was easy, and I think it could easily have been a distraction or a character development point. :)

Guessability is really pretty irrelevant. It's inevitability that gets annoying. :) Hence why the HoA being different from who and what we thought about it was good, even if I personally didn't like the foreshadowing so much, and felt it misled us in a way that didn't really end up properly promising us the result we got. :)

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Book 13 Title
« on: September 21, 2009, 04:50:25 AM »
There's also the "black" towers inside the blight, too. :)

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Scadriel's Orientation, Geography, and Weather
« on: September 18, 2009, 11:26:50 AM »
All will be revealed in the annotation for chapter 76.

Sweet. I remember wondering this myself while reading HoA, cool to see that Brandon actually thought about it.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm Chapter One
« on: September 18, 2009, 11:23:03 AM »
Kestrel,
Couldn't your extremely high praise of Brandon also be considered "Fanboyism"?  Also, don't you think one chapter of a book, especially one that requires reading of prior books in order to understand it, is too little a sampling to make a sound judgement?  As hard as it is for me to believe that a Fantasy enthusiast would be unable to at least read through and respect Tolkien, never mind Jordan, I respect your opinion.

I don't know if I'm a fangirl. It's hard to say where one is just a huge fan and where one's love is more irrational. I also am not entirely sure if I'd agree that one needs more than a single chapter to judge a book by. Maybe for a more detailed judgment, but I think one can tell from the outset if they'd at least -possibly- enjoy a book.

As for Tolkien, I don't like him for the same reason I don't like Jordan--dry, overly wordy, etc. I don't see being overly verbose as any sign of intelligence or a hallmark of great literature. I'm also just not a fan of Tolkien-esque elements in fantasy--regardless of the author, I have little interest in orcs, willowy, woodsy elves, hobbits/halflings (*shudder*), the list goes on.

One chapter lets you judge narrative voice. If narrative voice is a bottom line for you, then you may only need a single chapter to decide a book isn't for you. I would caution you that narrative voice changes as authors grow, so if it's voice you need to like, then it's hard to say a whole series is wrong for you just because the first book is.

You're right about verbosity not being an advantage. I think brevity is actually one of the biggest reasons I like Brandon's books.

My bottom lines tend to be on plot and theme, and thus I need at least a whole book to decide whether I like an author, but I tend to not be disappointed moving from a book to a series. :)

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Best Plot Twist in Mistborn *Spoilers*
« on: September 18, 2009, 11:12:15 AM »
Wow, I'm surprised corrupted prophecies gets such a big hit- I wonder if that's because of backlash against the "all myths are true" trope, or just because Ruin was a pretty awesome villain to begin with.

Personally I voted for the earring being a spike, because I thought it was just really well foreshadowed yet totally unexpected, which is ideally exactly what you want from a plot twist. It doesn't actually have to be world-shattering in my view to be a good plot twist, like the myth corruption, but it does have to be plot-shattering, (ie. matter a lot to the characters we care about) and Vin taking over as Preservation  just because someone figured out her earring is a spike is pretty plot-shattering.

As for Sazed being HoA, I personally didn't really feel the foreshadowing was quite as thorough on that point. The eunuch pronoun business bothered me as well- I would've said that the proper pronoun for a eunuch is "he". It was good that Brandon didn't make Vin HoA, however. :)

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Where can we buy "What the Storm Means" ebook?
« on: September 18, 2009, 10:57:16 AM »
I got mine at powells.com, because apparently B&N think they're too awesome to sell stuff outside the USA.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Book 13 Title
« on: September 17, 2009, 04:32:38 AM »
I'll admit it, I laughed. :)

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm Chapter One
« on: September 08, 2009, 04:51:18 AM »
If you had trouble with previous WoTs and didn't finish, I can totally see how you'd not be engaged with this chapter, as it kind of depends on having read book #11.

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