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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: September 05, 2010, 02:24:29 AM »
I've finished tweaking chapter one for now... I'd like to submit on Monday as well.

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I think ryos' suggestion on format is pretty good for what you're setting up here.  But I also agree that most of your viewpoints are too short- aside from the ending viewpoints, which have always been short, and serve mainly to let us know that stuff is happening elsewhere, too.  Which I like.

The dialogue is improving, but the prose in this chapter is sometimes confusing.  The sentences flow, but the ideas sometimes get tangled up in each other.  Or maybe I'm just tired.

I'm a little unclear about how Black Rose was released, and I think you need to show that because otherwise I'm going to wonder why the heck it took anyone four hundred years to do it if it was that easy.  Perhaps you could cover that in more detail later on.  I do like that her imprisonment has changed her.  The disconnected way she feels right now seems just about right.  She's out of time, so it fits.

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Introducing new characters is always tricky.  It took a while for me to pick up on the fact that Dais wasn't actually all by himself- alone in the city with no one to turn to, I mean. 

Your descriptions here kind of ramble a bit.  Not in purpose, but just word choice.  I had a hard time following some of it- but that's something to work on later.  I agree with LTU on the scene breaks- they aren't needed until you switch POV.

I have to wonder why Dais is in the city, who his companions are, and why they're there when there is no indication that they need to be.  You hint at it, but never really explain so I can only assume the explanations come later.  (Also, is his name a shortened/masculinized version of daisey? just wondered) 

You kinda throw things out there and then just let them hang.  He examines the dirt on the floor and you state that he knows about different soils.  You overstate the disappearance of all things wooden.  He seems surprised by the lack of a ladder, but he just spent the last three sentences detailing all the wooden things which ought to be there and aren't.  You'd think he'd take it for granted that there wouldn't be a ladder. 

Possible oops: He drops through the trapdoor from the second story, sees the hole in the floor, is discovered by the woman, and then runs down the stairs to the first floor and (presumably) out the door.  Either he entered by the third story, or through a trapdoor on the roof.  But if all the houses were initially built of stone why is she digging a hole in the second story?

You seem to be forming a habit of ending a chapter with a viewpoint that is out-of-context.  This is fine, and I actually think it adds to the story to be shown little snippets of what's happening elsewhere.  But you are also forming the habit of not immediately identifying the speaker, and that gets confusing.  It would probably be more expedient to simply start those sections with the POV's name.  Ex.  'Amaryllis had a hard time seeing through the gloom, and almost missed the small pile of bodies...'

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I have nothing to add, except to reiterate what everyone else said.  Good chapter.  Confusion abounds.  Work on it later. ;)

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Soo, Rosalin is cute, though Sericea is a bit too... nice... for being an older sister.  Sure, some sisters get along just fine- witness myself and my sisters, for example.  But the relationship you're describing here is one between two sisters who are adults, not one who is an adult (or nearly) and the other who is still a child.  Just something to think about.  And it might just be that we're seeing it through Rosalin's eyes- who obviously worships her sister.

I feel like I have to remark on something though.  First we have Black Rose, Rosen, and then Rosalin- all variations on the name Rose.  I'm not saying it's wrong and you should change it, just that they come very close together.  You do have plenty of other names in and around them, and they don't stick out to terribly much, but I did notice it.  (I do like the flower names, and plant imagery in general, btw)

Overall, everyone else pretty much hit the mechanical points... I will agree that the transition between the giant and Rosalin is very confusing to read.  So confusing that I actually went back and read it again a couple of times instead of reading on, just to see if I could figure out what actually happened, there.  But it's been a while, so you've probably already worked on that.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Jan. 18 -Asmodemon - The Citadel of Thorns, Prologue
« on: September 03, 2010, 03:54:19 AM »
Everything I would have said has already been addressed. 

As a prologue it works because I want to know what happened to Black Rose.  As a prologue it doesn't work, because there's too much of a disconnect between Black Rose and Rosen- there's no clue how much time has passed, exactly, and no indication of why he wants to release her.  I would suggest taking Rosen out of the prologue entirely and just putting him in chapter 1.  That's the beginning of the new timeline, and readers expect a certain amount of disconnect between a prologue and the first chapter.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: August 31, 2010, 05:57:16 AM »
Aaaand life hit me upside the head today.   :P  I'll hold off until next week unless, by some miracle, I can pull a few more paragraphs out of my brain tomorrow (unlikely).

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: August 30, 2010, 03:02:43 AM »
I would also like to submit the rest of chapter 1.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Aug 2 - Daddy Warpig - When Gods War, Part 1
« on: August 27, 2010, 09:20:49 PM »
Still agree with Asmodemon about Karrus simply walking away from the obelisk with no apparent weakness (other than being delirious).

However, the rest is so much better than the first version that there's simply no comparison.  I pretty much agree with what everyone else already said here.

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Very good advice here, guys, thanks!  Particularly as regards the amount of conversation, description, and army sizes.

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Reading Excuses / Re: July 19 - Daddy Warpig - When Gods War, Chap 1
« on: August 27, 2010, 03:25:27 AM »
Sorry about that... I had actually overlooked that particular email because it looked like a simply resend- one of those times when someone forgot to actually attach the document, you know?  I'll try and read and critique it for you tomorrow.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Aug 23 - Daddy Warpig - When Gods War, Part 3
« on: August 26, 2010, 04:48:56 AM »
As I mentioned in my part 2 critique, you should really move some of this to earlier sections.  It's good that you recognized we need to see it and gave it to us, but don't forget to reintegrate it with the rest so it flows more naturally.

This section reads the best for me, though.  I think you make Karrus' POV just a little stilted in tone- probably on purpose- but it's a lot easier for me to get immersed into this kind of writing.

One minor note: the quick succession of chobin with chosha is difficult to read.  True, you already introduced us to chobin as a term of rank for the Kithians, but this is the first time we're seeing chosha and at first I thought it was a remnant from a rephrasing of that particular sentence.  They are also very similar in sound.  I'd suggest putting a little more distance between them or changing one of the two so they don't sound so much alike.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Aug 9 - Daddy Warpig - When Gods War, Part 2
« on: August 26, 2010, 04:41:52 AM »
Overall it's a good middle piece, we've got some movement, some more character development...

I agree with Hubay about the dialogue though.  It doesn't take much, it's just a lot more interesting to "hear" people discussing their options rather than being told there was a discussion.

I also agree wiht LTU.  I'd like to see Akara's POV sooner... leaving the brunt of it for part three is awkward because you're going back to before the cataclysm- something we never got to see through Karrus' eyes, and then speeding things up all the way to the present.

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Reading Excuses / Re: July 19 - Daddy Warpig - When Gods War, Chap 1
« on: August 26, 2010, 04:31:53 AM »
Nice beginning.  I do like the gradual change in focus narrowing down to a single individual, but you either need to make section 2 longer, or just merge it with either section one or three.  Right now it's a bit jarring.

Section 4: is there some reason why it takes Karrus so long to dig himself out?  I know he's injured, but sand- while tending to try and level itself- is fairly easy to dig in.  At most it should take a couple of hours.  Also, given both the length of time you've got him digging right now, and the fact that he can't feel his leg at the beginning, he shouldn't be able to blithely stand up and walk around after freeing himself.  His head wound should affect his balance (especially since he's already passed out once and is delirious) and his leg should be both stiff and painful while the blood rushes back to it.  In short, he should be hobbling around grimacing in pain.

Section 7:  It might be possible to use what you've already got to help explain why she does what she does. First of all, he wakes up naked with a cold wind blowing over wet skin.  That combination is going to do some physical things to a man's body.  You could even tie it in with her noticing his "awakening."  I'm not trying to be crude, I'm just stating some facts here.  But for us to catch that you need to call attention to it.  And then call attention to the fact that she is *reacting* to his present condition, not necessarily acting solely on her own initiative.  'Cause I've gotta say: as a woman, the last thing I'm going to do after rescuing a man, even with the knowledge that we might just be the last two people alive on earth, is give him a peep show and then lay down beside him naked.  Particularly if he was the enemy a little less than 12 hours ago.  That's just asking for trouble right there.  Call me crazy, but I'd prefer to know a bit about him before I go giving him any ideas.  I would, however, probably lie down next to him with my clothes *on*, and spread a blanket over us both.  Sharing body heat is common sense.

Section 8: Actually doesn't seem too much out of blue, as long as you properly set things up in the previous section.  She's gotten her comfort and now she returns the favor.

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Reading Excuses / Re: August 23, Hubay, Fathers of God – Chapter 2
« on: August 25, 2010, 04:18:51 AM »
Very nicely done.  The story flows almost without flaw, especially toward the end.  I noticed, though, that Cumo didn't actually remove the flint shard, he just commented on how it felt rubbing against his lungs with each breath.  Presumably, he's still walking around with it in his chest as he feasts on roast duck. :D 

Nice name he picks for himself, though pretentious.  After all, everyone knows Polaesi only live a year, so what makes him think he'll be any different?

I'm assuming the story of Falk is in the prologue somewhere?  Sounds interesting, anyway. 

Don't think I care much for Listener... I don't care what your motivation is, there's no good reason to set people against one another.

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