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Reading Excuses / Re: Reading Excuses is one year old
« on: December 08, 2009, 07:35:46 PM »
Awesome. Way to stick in there everyone. It's been fun. :)

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: December 08, 2009, 02:57:23 AM »
No, I meant that she had done a whole bunch of critiques at once, like you have done in the past. And I didn't mean it as a bad thing. Whatever you guys can do it fine by me, especially since I am so sporadic about submitting myself that I really haven't personally felt a lag from either of you. ;)

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Reading Excuses / Re: Dec 7 - Chaos - Operation Cop Out
« on: December 08, 2009, 01:47:55 AM »
Thoughts while Reading:
Us- who is 'us?' Him and other Gods? Him and his creation? Who?
I think the parallel structure you seem to be searching for with the first and second line of the second paragraph would work better if you said 'death' instead of 'sacrifice' to end the first line.
I thought he was waiting for a 'world slayer,' but then it sounds like he destroyed the worlds himself.
I think the last line isn't as strong as you probably want it to be. Second to the last is probably better.Though, if I were his creation, I wouldn't be very reassured by any of this. :P
Overall:
Well, before we had a character (albeit a wishy washy one) but now I am not sure what we have. No clear conflict, just a some inner musings about... something. It is confusing and confusion is a turn off, but so short that you may be able to get away with it. That is, if I get something to latch onto closely following this.

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There's an entire thread dedicated to Frog-bashing? Wow. I'm jealous :)
There are actually several, all masquerading as critique threads. I'll try to properly label the next one so we don't have any more  confusion on where to direct these worthy comments. :P 

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: December 07, 2009, 09:29:40 PM »
Hmm... it seems Veggie has pulled a Silk. :)

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Reading Excuses / Re: November 30 - Recoverying Cynic - Oathbound - Ch. 4
« on: December 01, 2009, 06:21:22 AM »
It was pretty close to what we read before, but one thing you are going to have to watch is that you explain a few things here that have already been explained in previous chps, which makes it a bit redundant now. I'm glad you took some time to discribe the hounds and wildmen a bit since I am with Andrew on their still being too many things left unexplained for my liking (though I do know what a dewclaw is and since all dogs have them, it probably can be left alone)

I do appreciate that you gave us more background on Bel's character, the main question I have though is if there is much of a point of even having the family any more. I mean, they don't last long enough to play an significant role in the plot other then to give him an obvious reason to begrudge the knights, but with his brother's most probable death at Lucard's negligence, didn't he already have that? Does he really need this extra push at the expense of losing some of the pacing with all the time jumps and such? Just something to think about anyway. I am also noticing that he doesn't seem to think much of his brother anymore accept it that he doesn't want to become like him, but I would think their lack of closure should be more on his mind since this event was important enough to include in the story in the first place.

Good Luck!

Third:  Anyone who carries a sword has culture.  i know you're trying to hide that but anyone who knows anything about weapons is going to say "Hey, they've got swords.  That means they have culture."  So if they have swords they would never be perceived as "just feral former humans."
I don't think he specifically said they made the swords, just that they had them. How smart do you have to be to scavenge and pick up somebody else's sword?

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Reading Excuses / Re: Nov 23 - Andrew the Great - Lawless Ch 3
« on: November 29, 2009, 03:37:55 AM »
Well, Andrew, you know I like you (you're my theoretical buddy after all) but I can't even begin to tell you how much I disliked this particular submission. I honestly felt most of it, if not all of it, was an infodump and the plot/conflict you outlined seemed... well I hate to use the word 'cliche' (just another way of saying you don't care for it while pretending to be professional about it IMO) so let's just say 'typical' instead. Now understand that for me, this is NOT a problem. I read lots of fantasy because I like the basic formula and see originality as being in all the little twists and details. The problem I was having here is since you are not going to hook me on plot at this point, your style/character need to be just that much better. It was just rough, as you seem to already know at this point, and if this is going to be a POV character, you really need create scenes to show him at his best advantage and weed through a lot of this that seems to be more important for you know and have then for us to read at this point.
I'll admit to skimming a lot in this section so I really don't have a lot of line edits, but I'll just add that I too was was screaming at you for Rasheda staying alive past the point where I could medically dispense my disbelief.
Good luck with Nano. It seems like you're getting through the word count just fine. I would love to see more of this when you have some time to edit. :)

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With Frog's writing, she writes a lot about non-human races, and I'm prepared to be bored to death.
Hey, what's the deal? Don't we have enough Frog bashing in the designated 'Frog bashing Thread'? What's it doing over here? :P

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Good chapter. You had some good descriptions and there was nothing here that would have stopped me from reading. Some minor things that made me pause.
I do not think that Miranda is a believable character at this point. You seem to want to make her over the top for comedic effect and it is funny, but it also makes her seem like a bit of a psycho; especially since you show all her reactions but not what she is reacting to, none of her potential reasoning. So when you try later to show her being more rational, it seems off. And also you have some more whininess in Bel in reaction to this that is also a tad bit annoying.
Yeah, the break was a little abrupt. It also makes me wonder why you chose to stop where you did as it seemed that all that was happening was fairly typical of their life now. Not that it would be a problem for me reading at this point because we do get some characterization and hints of conflict that interest me, but I am waiting for the explosion in the next chapter or so.
Good luck. Keep it coming. :)

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I wasn't looking for earlier in the day, personally. I was just looking for earlier. So much of the character already seemed established (her friends, her entrance and troubles in the school, her developing magic and a huge dome already placed overhead) that it seemed that any conflict she might have had there was either already dealt with or very vague. Depending on where your story goes from here, you either need to start with showing some of these problems and really show them on the surface in a scene or use the same technique to clearly introduce what her new, external to the school conflict will be. IMO, the setting was fine. What this chapter lacked was a hook.

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Reading Excuses / Re: New Title
« on: November 21, 2009, 05:09:24 AM »
Angsty teenagers.
Is there any other kind? :P

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Reading Excuses / Re: I was curious to know...
« on: November 20, 2009, 12:14:15 AM »
I think Aprilynne Pike was actually the last one added earlier this year, and I am pretty sure she has some contention to Brandon at least.

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Reading Excuses / Re: Email List + Submission Dates
« on: November 20, 2009, 12:07:00 AM »
Yeah, I think you're good Cynic.

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I think it is just a simple matter of knowing your audience. And I (as the resident cliche, YA, completely light and fluffy fairy tale writer) loved the tone and what I've seen of world and magic system. Heck, my magic system is different, but has some elemental base too.... though I am not trying to demote you to my level since this is really only the first chp we've seen and I don't really know who you are aiming it at. If you are aiming for the dark and gritty adult crowd this chapter probably isn't doing you any favors, but there is enough of that stuff floating around anyway and in my opinion, it is just as cliche (not that I don't love you other guys and your work, but I am not talking to you now, and we all must push for our own 'team' sometimes).

Problems. This is the first chp with our new friend Aliese right? Because it really doesn't feel like we are starting at the beginning, almost like you are trying to refresh us on stuff we should already know so we can get to the 'real' story, like it was a sequel or at least a reorientation of the character rather then the first introduction. There are elements of showing, but mostly you are just introducing lots of characters and magic system, setting and dumping on them. There seems to be some tension in there, but it is pretty vague and the chapter doesn't seem to serve as a  hook as you really didn't give me any since of what your overall plot might be. A few hints would be nice. I don't know your story, but I really feel you may be starting in the wrong place, at least with this character.

If you are going for YA, you really need to give us Aliese's relative age somewhere and your paragraphs are too long to be artistically pleasing on the page.

Good luck, keep it coming. Don't touch your world/magic system/tone just because you may have hit the wrong crowd this time around.

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Alright, as far as breaking up the chapter goes, I'd be good with breaking it where you already have a break, but then I am a YA writer and I always try to get my chps to hit around 2000. Really, it doesn't matter. You're chps can be long and short as long as it fits the pacing of your book.

Major problem I was having with this section is it is completely bogged down with internal thought (Khuyus musing and flashbacks and whatever else) and I STILL don't feel like I am orientated to the world at all outside of just these two characters in a seemingly vacant castle (except for the random servant). It just feels vacant and fluffy, like you are just spewing out words just for the heck of it without a lot of substance. Nano will do that to you and it is fine for a first draft, but something like that really isn't ready to see the light of day.  I mean, you do have some tension here between the two characters, but you need to bring it out more and I need to know what is going on in this word outside of these two characters as far as how they, as mages, function here. And, without a flashback or excessive internal thought, I need a better sense of Khuyus, age, background, family that kind of thing.

Interesting magic system... Characters have a lot of potential. Cut it down, clean it up, and you'll have an interesting chp.

Good Luck, keep it coming. :)

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