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Rants and Stuff / Re: Seven years later...
« on: September 15, 2008, 11:26:39 PM »Wow. The recon teams that were sent to the beacheads in Japan in preparation for our ground assault there would disagree with you quite a bit. A country that ready to surrender does not dig in like that. But, giving you the benefit of the doubt, I just checked your facts, and it appears Japan was trying to convince the Soviets to switch sides, not surrender. In fact, Stalin encouraged the use of the atomic bomb (which in no way surprises me, that man was horrible). There was even a final ultimatum of surrender given after the Potsdam meeting that was ignored by Japan. They were hoping to hurt us so bad that we would give up and leave them be, and if it weren't for the A-bombs that may have been what happened. Thank you for playing, though. I am less inclined to dispute parts of the second half of your post, as I know America became a little irrational about fighting Communism. Unfortunately, mistakes were made, and some US backed leaders were bad. Everyone picks the wrong side sometimes. Would you have preferred these countries become communist states?
I think you need to check your sources. The US had broken the Japanese codes very early in the war. They intercepted Tojo's communique that asked the Russians to intercede and speak with the US about a potential peace. The unconditional surrender was the only hang up apparently. Plus look at the US Strategic Bombing Survey from 1946 that discusses the effects of the bomb. Japan would have had to surrender as early as November or December even if the US did not invade and the USSR did not declare war against Japan in early August. I am not saying that the bomb didn't influence the timing of the surrender, but the writing was on the wall, everyone knew it and they still dropped it. It did give the Japanese leadership the opportunity to save face but at the cost of hundreds of thousands of civilian lives.
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/bomb/large/documents/index.php?documentdate=1946-06-30&documentid=7-1&studycollectionid=&pagenumber=1