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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm - First Impressions *SPOILERS*
« on: December 18, 2009, 11:34:28 PM »
Also, and I forgot to mention this earlier: how about Elaida? I totally did a "whoop" when she got captured by the Seanchan. Totally served her smug little self right.  ;D

Oh, heck yeah. Best part of the book. Period. I was hoping for Elaida's fall for quite some time, couldn't come fast enough.

Yeah I did the same. I was always confused by her character progression though. She went from the stern, strict, overbearing, motherly figure to a complete psychopath.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm - First Impressions *SPOILERS*
« on: December 18, 2009, 11:28:07 PM »
Cadsuane is annoying because she, like most other Aes Sedai, think that Rand needs to be controlled or guided by them. The problem is none of them is omniscient. Not even close. They've continued only to mess things up worse for Rand. Does he need help or some advice? Yep. Sure does. But he doesn't need a bunch of schemers and manipulaters trying to manipulate him into doing what they think is right? Bottom line it's hella-annoying that they all think they KNOW better than he does. They don't. Even Egwene is all panicky because "the Dragon Reborn is out there uncontrolled". Bad Egwene! He's the prophesied savior, a human being, not some wild animal.


I'm with douglas and Eerongal on the whole Moiraine issue. She is held in high regard because Rand came to trust her.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm - First Impressions *SPOILERS*
« on: December 07, 2009, 02:35:05 PM »
happy,

We will just have to agree to disagree on this point.

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I would also note that disobedience is not strictly rewarded by death.  That is false, period.  Mesaana, Moghedien, and Lanfear are all examples of that.

Moghedien isn't being punished for disobedience but for failure. As for Mesaana, did that order come directly from the DO? Even if it did the punishment thereafter is so extreme that she won't be able to disobey ever again. Point being the DO rules with an iron fist. If the key to the DO's plan was to balefire the world into oblivion he would actively be forcing his minions to do just that! What would be the point of all of his scheming if just by shattering the world via balefire was the key to everything? Why manipulate the Dragon so much? Yah Rand is the strongest channeler around but Ishy/Rahvin/Demandred/Lanfear/etc... are pretty close to his strength. Are you suggesting the damage all of them combined wouldn't match what Rand could do alone? Their souls are bound to him. If he truly wanted them to shatter the pattern he would simply make them do it. Regardless if they didn't want to go along with it.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm - First Impressions *SPOILERS*
« on: December 03, 2009, 11:42:16 PM »
Most darkfriends are really in it for themselves, expecting the Dark One to reward them for their service, rather than wanting to free the Dark One for its own sake.  Most of them have not realized that if the DO actually wins they will be collateral damage in the destruction of the entire world.  Thus, the DO may want balefire used without restraint but most of his followers would not be willing to use it to the required extent.  If he pushes for it he might get a mass darkfriend revolt instead, and he's smart enough to realize this.  Ishamael would go along with balefiring the Pattern to tatters, but he's just one person.  He might be able to pull it off with the Choedan Kal, but with anything short of that he'd face a universal mutiny before reaching the point of no return.

The DO may or may not want the world torn apart by excessive balefire use.  I don't think there is enough evidence to decide this either way yet.

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. Some of the most powerful people ever, the Forsaken, do whatever he tells them. If he told them to balefire the world into oblivion they most definately would obey. As would any Forsaken underlings. The DO rules out of fear as do the Forsaken over their cronies. If anyone disobeys they are simply killed off. That goes all the way down the chain of command on the side of the shadow. I don't see any type of revolt taking place. Furthermore, the Darkfriends that matter in this discussion are Aes Sedai Black Ajah and any rogue Ashaman that have crossed over. All of the Black Ajah are fully aware of what the DO represents. It's not just some shmuck darkfriends that would come into play in this theory only the channelers.

So, I still believe that if the DO intended the world be ended by excessive balefire use then that would have, at the very least, already have been attempted.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm - First Impressions *SPOILERS*
« on: December 03, 2009, 10:48:03 PM »
I think the DO wants to remake it but first needs to destroy the original. He certainly doesn't seem to mind Balefire being used. Also there was no unififed or official agreement, both sides just stopped using it because the saw the consequences of using it, I don't think the DO told anyone to stop using it.

While you are correct in saying there was no official agreement the fact remains both sides stopped. They realized the consequences and just stopped using it. However, as Eerongal pointed out if the DO wanted balefire to be used the shadow would simply use it. So, if it were any advantage to the DO to have things balefired out of existence he would command his followers to balefire it out of existence. Point being, the shadow stopped using balefire and they really have no will of their own, as a whole, other than the will of the DO. So, that leads me to believe that the DO was just fine with no balefire being thrown around all willy-nilly.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm - First Impressions *SPOILERS*
« on: December 03, 2009, 02:29:16 PM »
All good points happy. I don't see Ishy passing up any opportunity to manipulate Rand.

Balefire can destroy the pattern but rampant use of balefire isn't what the DO or Ishy want from Rand, imo. During the time of Lews Therin both sides of the conflict agreed not to use balefire. However, they both definately wanted Rand to use the TP. Also, upon using the TP he killed two women. Something he vowed never to do again. I think their whole goal is to make Rand lose his humanity. Pretty much the reverse of what Cadsuane was trying to do. Maybe, the DO is just trying to hedge his bets. That even if he loses to the Dragon, AGAIN, he'll be some crazy monster that will, AGAIN, destroy the world.

Ishy has stated before that Dragon has fought on the side of the DO but the DO still lost the final battle. My question is what would the final piece, for a DO victory, have to be if it isn't the Dragon? Even the Karaethon prophecy states that only the Dragon's blood need be spilled at Shayol Ghul and there is no mention as to what side he will fight on.

His blood on the rocks of Shayol Ghul,
washing away the Shadow, sacrifice for man’s salvation.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm - First Impressions *SPOILERS*
« on: December 02, 2009, 02:19:50 PM »
Kinda weird but I think my favorite scene might be when Rand wanders into Ishy/Moridins dream. How Ishy is all "why did you come here?" then Rand is all "why did you bring me here?".   Just all the dialogue in that whole scene was very cool to me.

It's a good scene.  I'm pretty sure Moridin is lying his teeth out during the whole thing, though.

It seems pretty transparent to me that he deliberately brought Rand there to tell him that the Forsaken can be reborn, but balefire will take them out permanently.  All part of the DO's master plan, along with giving him access to the True Power.

That very well could be true. The vibe I got though was Moridin was lounging and was quite annoyed at Rands "intrusion". Now you really can't tell due to the fact that we can not hear or see the conversation take place but thats just the way it played out in my head.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm - First Impressions *SPOILERS*
« on: December 01, 2009, 02:53:07 PM »
Kinda weird but I think my favorite scene might be when Rand wanders into Ishy/Moridins dream. How Ishy is all "why did you come here?" then Rand is all "why did you bring me here?".   Just all the dialogue in that whole scene was very cool to me.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: War Breakers Question and other....
« on: October 15, 2009, 08:46:50 PM »
OH - War of Time?

What is the story with that? Is that series worth going for? 

thanks....



WoT = Wheel of Time

It is a series that was started by the late Robert Jordan. Jordan passed away before finishing the twelth volume in his twelve volume series. Then Jordan's wife/editor chose Sanderson to finish the series. The twelth and final book has been split into 3 volumes due to its length. They will all be penned by Sanderson.

Its an amazing series. It's one of if not my absolute favorite of all time. Its definately worth looking into.

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Monopoly movie = Bad idea

Theres actually quite a few movies based off of board games, action figures, and the like unfortunately. A couple I heard that are in the works are Battleship, Barbie, Max Steel, Major Matt Mason, Hot Wheels, Wheres Waldo, Ouija Board, Candy Land, and Stretch Armstrong. Yah Hollywood! An original idea someone? Anyone? Nope.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: TGS chapter 2 now online at tor.com
« on: September 24, 2009, 04:16:21 PM »
Damn. I can't get audio while at work. Guess I'll have to wait. :(

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Everything Else / Re: Just got back from vacation.
« on: September 22, 2009, 02:37:50 PM »
I haven't  been to the one in KC but I have been to the Bristol Renaissance Fair in Kenosha WI. It was good times. I almost shot my friend with a compound bow by accident. :o

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Books / Re: What are you reading, part 3
« on: September 21, 2009, 06:24:16 PM »
Bookstore Guy, you'll be happy to know that I just picked up the first book in the Malazan series, Gardens of the Moon. I'm pretty excited to start reading it. I've heard many good things from you and many others about this series. Glad I'm finally getting around to it.

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Everything Else / What's that smell? Cthulhu you say?
« on: September 18, 2009, 03:56:09 PM »
A creeping, wet, slithering scent, dripping with seaweed, oceanic plants and dark, unfathomable waters.

Yah. That about sums it up, I guess. Only 15$ and all the Cthulhu goodness could be yours..... :P

http://www.blackphoenixalchemylab.com/poetry.html

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Book 13 Title
« on: September 17, 2009, 01:17:35 PM »
 :D Awesome. That is 100% win!

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