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Brandon Sanderson / Re: ***SPOILERS Official Hero of Ages Spoilers Thread. Includes Q&A w/Brandon****
« on: December 13, 2008, 12:31:36 AM »
Count me disappointed for a number of reasons, some of which are contained earlier in the thread.   I guess this makes the Chromium and Nicrosil uses official as its the first time BS actually wrote it out.   Guess there is no more guessing to be done.

Interesting with Cadmium and Cerrobend.   I guess if they effect a "bubble around the allomancer" the Cadmium would make it seem like time outside of the bubble were going faster and Cerrobend would make time outside the bubble seem slower.   It also explains why there was no noticable effect when Elend and Vin were burning "The Mists" because they canceled eachother out.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: ***SPOILERS Official Hero of Ages Spoilers Thread. Includes Q&A w/Brandon****
« on: December 11, 2008, 06:54:08 PM »
Well it is possible that its on the axial north pole and that the planet is tilted slightly and that it also has a wobble.   With Earth, the axial tilt always points one way relative to a stationary observer somewhere in our solar system.   If that tilt wobbled, it could mean the north side always points towards the sun or slightly away or anything to provide any of the necessary requirements to fulfill the observed day in the world and still have Luthadel on the north axial pole.   It could even have a daily wobble that could cause day and night for Luthadel.   Of course it would be cause very strange days outside of Luthadel considering you'd still have to have the planet spinning around a separate axis from the wobble.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WOT Help
« on: December 05, 2008, 09:18:53 PM »
Quote from: douglas on December 05, 2008, 07:56:48 PM
Er, what in that post could possibly be a spoiler?  As far as I can tell I mentioned nothing about the plot other than extreme generalities and things in EotW, which he already finished.
If I said, then it would be a spoiler.   Pointing out lesser noticed details in general can help give away things that aren't confirmed for several books.   The details are there so that when you go back, you get an "OH!" type moment.   Imagine watching a movie with a friend who has already seen it and every 5 minutes he points out something to you sand says, "keep an eye on that", or "watch this!"   You'd notice things you weren't intended to notice and it might just ruin the movie.   Sixth sense, for instance.   If you point out that she never actually talks to him, it would ruin the movie.   My friend almost ruined Fight Club by pausing it at just the right moments to show the secret frames.

Now I wasn't saying that you actually said a spoiler, I was saying that depending on your viewpoint, some of what you said COULD be considered a spoiler under some circumstance.   Best not to point out details unless the person comes asking about it and even then, don't explain it, just give hints or say RAFO.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WOT Help
« on: December 05, 2008, 07:25:29 PM »
Quote from: douglas on December 05, 2008, 04:47:58 AM
Yeah, the Wheel of Time is one of my top two most favorite series (the other is Mistborn, and I'm not sure which I like better), and talking about it with someone as he goes through it himself for the first time is quite enjoyable.

It's amazing how many seemingly minor characters and plot lines turn out to come back later and become much more important, and discussion like this can help jog your memory when that happens and you can't quite remember where you've seen that character before.  Also, it can be great fun to try to figure out what all the numerous foreshadowings and (especially) prophecies and such mean and debate your theories.  Many of them have, of course, been resolved already in the course of the existing 11 books, but there are still plenty left.

For a good example of foreshadowing entirely in EotW, think back to Moiraine's explanation to Nynaeve about what usually happens with someone with the spark who is not taught, and consider certain things that happen to and near Rand.  For example, Moiraine trying to banish Bela's fatigue and discovering that someone had already done it, Rand feeling and acting strangely when meeting the Children of the Light, the oh-so-fortuitous lightning breaking open a way out when he needed to escape, Rand developing a short spontaneous fever with no apparent cause, etc.  Rand goes through exactly what Moiraine explained, and if you notice that connection it becomes quite obvious that Rand has the spark and is beginning to channel well before they actually reach the Eye of the World and fight Aginor.

When you finish book 10, go look up the Wheel of Time FAQ (just google it).  You could look earlier, but beware of spoilers.  MANY spoilers, discussed in great detail.  It has not been updated for Knife of Dreams and probably never will be, so reading through Crossroads of Twilight is enough to deal with any spoilers that aren't just (extraordinarily in depth) speculation.

BTW, does anyone have any idea why a dirty beggar is higher level than a non-dirty beggar?
Hey watch what you're saying, man. Some of that could still be considered spoilers at the point in the books he's in.   This is the type of stuff that is supposed to wait for the second reading of the series.    Some of the best things about the books is that they foreshadow so much that at the end of every book, you can sit down and speculate on things to come.   For instance, Min made a bunch of readings on all the characters, what might they mean?   That's some of the best stuff.   Much of it is still unanswered even at this point including the infamous, "Who killed (name removed for spoilers sake)," question.   Anyone who is a fan of the series INSTANTLY knows who I'm talking about.   Its part of what makes it so awesome.

As for dirty beggar being higher level than a non-dirty begger, my guess is that its very based on the timewasters idea behind the forums.   Any beggar who is clean is obviously not wasting enough time.   Makes it all that much more funny when you start looking at the other levels.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WOT Help
« on: December 04, 2008, 12:54:16 AM »
Beware, they spend many books exploring the magic system though I think much of it is fleshed out pretty well by book...4 or 5.    And Lan is also much more thoroughly explained in New Spring as well.   

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: ***SPOILERS Official Hero of Ages Spoilers Thread. Includes Q&A w/Brandon****
« on: December 03, 2008, 10:44:35 PM »
I would guess so but I would not be surprised either way and I'll tell you why.

Koloss are human, they have just been warped by their spikes to the point of severe disfigurement.   I don't see any reason why a Koloss couldn't become a mistborn.   On the other hand, would you really want a Koloss with Mistborn powers?

Kandra are not human.   They were transformed oh so long ago into an entirely different species that breeds true.   On the other hand, they are still effected by spikes so why not Lerasium.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Official Fan Art Thread **Don't create new threads**
« on: December 01, 2008, 10:07:29 PM »
Amazing picture.   The face looks recognizable though and it took me a bit to figure out who it reminds me of.   Ashley Judd.   Unfortunately Ashley's eyebrows are a bit bigger and she tends to smile a heck of a lot so its hard to get a good comparitive.   Here is one of my more favorites that I did find.   The angle is just about right too.

http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/fan/ashley-judd/ashley-judd-20040429-1646.jpg

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: ***SPOILERS Official Hero of Ages Spoilers Thread. Includes Q&A w/Brandon****
« on: November 26, 2008, 05:11:58 AM »
No, all Kandra had two spikes and Tensoon had 4.   Read page 274 in the hardcover.
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He now had four spikes, two Blessings, and was one of the most powerful kandra alive.

As for why Ruin never took them, I don't think he paid them too much attention cause he couldn't see them most of the time.   They might have explained it but I can't recall.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: ***SPOILERS Official Hero of Ages Spoilers Thread. Includes Q&A w/Brandon****
« on: November 26, 2008, 02:23:13 AM »
Quote from: PlantationMonsta on November 26, 2008, 01:19:53 AM
There were some things Ruin could do and some things Preservation could do. Ruin clearly lacked the ability to see metal so Preservation changed his body into a metal not allowing him to find it. Also the use of atium didn't give it back to Ruin it just caused more geodes in the pits. It kind of kept ruins body in a constant flux and never all there at once.
Preservation also lacked the ability to see metal as confirmed by BS somewhere earlier in this thread(Also confirmed by Vin when she couldn't see metal after taking over Preservation's power).   Metal was power and so it looked shiny when either Preservation or Ruin looked at it.     Both of them also existed in solid form, hense Lerasium.   The question then is what would have Ruin have HAD to do to get his body back?   It seems surprisingly difficult for this exceptionally powerful being to get his body back even though he had plenty of access to large portions of it.

And all Kandra were spiked not just once, but twice.   The more spikes, the stronger the influence.   The Kandra were just not in a place that was easily usable by Ruin so he kind of ignored them.   They were trained to pull their spikes the moment Ruin did try to control them.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: ***SPOILERS Official Hero of Ages Spoilers Thread. Includes Q&A w/Brandon*
« on: November 26, 2008, 12:52:08 AM »
Quote from: Wielder on November 25, 2008, 11:42:51 PM
You know what I really love about all of this, Keliser's attack on the pits are all the more impressive after book 3.  He was essentially partially destroying a 'god.'
Eh, not really considering anyone really could have done it.   What I don't understand, though, is why Ruin needed his body in metal form in order get it back.   By using it it just disappeared into nothingness only to be slowly returned over centuries.   I would have suspected that using it would actually give it back to Ruin in the first place.   Does it mean that technically Ruin and Preservation were not in fact All Powerful and rather only had a finite amount of power that slowly regenerated over time?   Something didn't quite connect for me in that Ruin couldn't find his own body, couldn't keep it from being used and needed it in solid form in order to regain it(not to mention he couldn't apparently get it himself and needed one of his spiked people to grab it for him[Otherwise he'd just collect it from the bags as they were handed out to the Atium Mistings before they could use it]).   If Rashek had never mined it out of the pits, would Ruin have been able to get it at all?   Was it something like the Well's power in that the person had to tap into it and then release it back to Ruin without using it?   I've been quite confused on that subject for a while now.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: ***SPOILERS Official Hero of Ages Spoilers Thread. Includes Q&A w/Brandon****
« on: November 25, 2008, 04:58:55 AM »
Rashek had the power of Preservation for the time he held it.   He could technically do anything Preservation was capable of.   From what I understood, Preservation's mind was busy keeping Ruin's mind under control.   That's why Preservation's power needed a mind to control and use it.   But before Rashek, there was no Atium and no Pits for the Atium to grow as far as I remember.   I am of the opinion that if what believe is true, it had to be Rashek who did it.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WOT Help
« on: November 22, 2008, 08:58:12 PM »
Quote from: happyman on November 22, 2008, 08:02:02 PM

You can't plagiarize ideas.  And borrowing ideas isn't immoral, either.
Exactly.   But one could also say that Goodkind just took longer to get his story in order.   With epics like this, you don't just write on the fly.   You build the world, you build the history, you build an outline, and then you carefully tread forward.   I've heard Jordan originally expected to do it in three books, then in six.   RJ and TG may have had an agreement or something where TG waits till RJ finished before starting.   If that were the case, TG may have waited till it became obvious RJ wasn't going to finish any time soon.   Who really knows and who is really going to admit it.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WOT Help
« on: November 22, 2008, 07:58:08 AM »
Yeah I never saw the first book as slow.   They are traveling but they are pretty much always in a rush running from someone to somewhere.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Hoid??
« on: November 21, 2008, 05:02:43 PM »
Sounds like Scadrial to me.   Gods have definitely died there.   As for two lands meeting, it could be a metaphor for the change the world took or any number of other metaphors for two lands meeting.   Or it could have something to do with the land after Sazed fixed it as we don't know what it looks like.   As for people who don't know who they are(male), it could be a metaphor for Sazed before he became God.   Or perhaps for Marsh after Sazed fixed the world.   Or some random person we don't know about(How good was Kelsier at telling stories?).   I haven't gotten to Elantris nor Warbreaker yet so I can't pull examples from them.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WOT Help
« on: November 20, 2008, 12:14:09 AM »
My comparisons are purely broken down bare as you say.   The Sisters of Light vs Aes Sedai for instance.   The one ages slowly due to an effect on the building where they live, the other ages slowly due to the connection with magic.   The one only has access to one half of the power they are capable of tapping into(additive and subtractive), the other has full access to the power they are tapping into(Saidar).   In one, Men and Women are both capable of accessing both sides of the same power, the other, Men and Women each access different sides of the same power.   You break it down and the details are different, how they are used are different, but in the basic bare bones of the story, they occupy the same place.   One could argue that the Confessors occupy the same political position as the White Tower so therefore the Confessors are more like Aes Sedai.   Write the basics of the story and they are similar, write details and they diverge.

Is there a group of female magic users? Yes. Who are they? Sisters of Light vs Aes Sedai. Details? Too many to list.
Is there a prophetical sword? Yes. What is it called? Sword of Truth vs Callendor. Details? Too many to list.
Was there an age of enlightenment? Yes. How long ago? 3000 years. How did it end? Cataclysmic war event. Details? Too many to list.
Is there a group of male magic users? No. How long since last normal group of male magic users? 300o years. Details on why they are no longer? Too many to list.
Is there a group that hunts down magic users? Yes. What are they called. Blood of the Fold vs Children of Light. Details? Too many to list.

Its the details that are different between the two stories, but the basics are relatively the same.   The further along in the story you get, the less alike the stories are.   That's why I said:
Quote from: Shadowkiller on November 19, 2008, 09:02:42 PM
It looks like the two of them started off with the same world and took the story in two different directions.

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