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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Scribbler - 2011
« on: September 01, 2010, 04:56:36 AM »
Hey that's certainly awesome too.

One gets me to go "hell yeah, a Sharworld book!" and one gets me to go "Awesome, a Sanderson book!"

The difference is small, but not important.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Other Writers Like Brandon?
« on: September 01, 2010, 01:07:37 AM »
Yeah, I'm halfway through Weeks first book and not to be horrible, it it reads a lot like a Sanderson book would if he was desperate for money and just rushed through it.  Real world names for groups or things are mashed around.  There's little depth to the characters, and people start getting along and such way to quick.  Everything has a cheap pop novel feel to it.  It's sort of fun, but there's a voice in my head telling me there are better things to read.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK: Shalan - near end of book **SPOILERS**
« on: September 01, 2010, 01:03:36 AM »
My assumption is that her father had one and she got he when she killed him.  Though that does raise the question of how exactly she killed him when he has a shardblade.  Hmmm...

I don't think there's much to ponder there.  Who would expect their beloved daughter of killing them?  Getting him dead within the 10 hearbeats doesn't seem like a big stretch.

The real questions are WHY would she kill him?  Was it on purpose or accident?  If on purpose, what did he do to deserve it?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: WoK: Shalan - near end of book **SPOILERS**
« on: September 01, 2010, 12:54:49 AM »
My assumption is that her father had one and she got he when she killed him.  Though that does raise the question of how exactly she killed him when he has a shardblade.  Hmmm...

I don't think there's much to ponder there.  Who would expect their beloved daughter of killing them?  Getting him dead within the 10 hearbeats doesn't seem like a big stretch.

The real questions are WHY would she kill him?  Was it on purpose or accident?  If on purpose, what did he do to deserve it?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Scribbler - 2011
« on: September 01, 2010, 12:49:59 AM »
Is Scribbler a Shard book?  God, I haven't been around here in months.  I'm forgetting things I knew.


... What was the name of the Shard in Warbreaker?  :-\

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm - First Impressions *SPOILERS*
« on: November 03, 2009, 02:23:29 AM »
Well, that's all true.  But it went deeper than that.  It was how they thought about each other.  None of it seemed very... friendly.  I think we're both uplaying this example due to it being the chief one I gave, but I merely meant it as part of an overall problem.  Bear in mind I don't think this is as huge a problem as this discussion may be making it seem.  I do love the series, and I absolutely cannot wait for the next two books.  It's just that I think characters in this series are to harsh to each other, and don't talk and share information enough.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm - First Impressions *SPOILERS*
« on: November 03, 2009, 01:34:38 AM »
I suppose you're right, but that was still only about half of Eye of the World.  And yeah, they still treated each other like friends, but they didn't seem to talk like friends.  Their conversations around each other were much to guarded to me, even at the beginning.  There wasn't much of the sense of familiar casualness to them which friends have.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm - First Impressions *SPOILERS*
« on: November 03, 2009, 12:55:27 AM »
Ah, one thing I forget.  While I spoiled myself on the epitaphs, I didn't read the chapter names.  So when I got to the chapter titles "Veins of Gold" I had a shiver.  I knew things would be okay for Rand.  Or at least better.  Finally the laughter and tears.  Wonderful throwback there.  Those scenes in Winter's Heart were some of the best in the series, and yeah, some of the oddest, but what the hell?  Avhienda Min and Bridgette getting drunk is always a hoot.

I noticed that the women seemed less catty.

Also, Brandon broke the Cardinal Rule of WoT, he had people talk to each other :o  ;)

Honestly...  I tried to dance around it in my comment, as it seems blasphemous especially now, but this.  Good god this is why TGS was so great.  There is no doubt that Jordan was a masterful idea man, and godly at assembling vast amounts of threads at a time, but the characters rarely really talked.  I about never got the impression that Perrin, Mat, and Rand were friends.  Nor that a lot of the love stories were as real as we were meant to believe.  It was just that nobody talked, and everybody was a bit of an ass to each other.  It created a feel that a lot of the love stories were "love at first sight, and done."  I gave up on Eye of the World once, but the world drew me back.  The books picked up in every regard after that, even this.  But even after the characters talked more, they weren't around each other that much.  Eventually I also picked up on Jordan's style, and sort of saw what I thought he meant through many of the interactions, but the damage was still done.

And the women... were way to catty to each other.  Nyneave especially.  Again this was improved as things went along, but again, the damage had already been done.

I do love the series, don't get me wrong.  But I honestly feel that part of why it was so long was just that nobody ever talked reasonably, creating plot threads that simply had to last way to long because the characters didn't have realistic conversation with each other.  Everybody was to guarded about everything.  Not a problem when people don't know each other, but this went on even among life long friends. 

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: The Gathering Storm - First Impressions *SPOILERS*
« on: November 01, 2009, 06:43:59 AM »
Well that was definitely the best Wheel of Time book in years.  My compliments, as well as a mental cattle prod for you to move faster.  ;)  You struck the perfect balance between the ways the characters react to each other, and showing us what they're really thinking underneath their own thoughts.  The stuff they may not admit to themselves.  That's always been the hardest thing to get right in this series.

Overall... I just can't wait to meet Rand again for the first time.  More than anything, it feels like that's what will happen in Towers of Midnight.  I can't wait for him to talk to the other Two Rivers kids, as well as his three... girlfriends.  And Tam.  Possible above all else, Tam.  I read a fair amount of comics, and this is reminding me a bit of the most angsty stories about Superman having to come to terms with his identity.  Is he Kal-El, or Clark?  And then talking to his dad again, realizing that the man who raised him mattered more than most anything else.  And I like the bit of symbolism of him doing the impossible.  Scaling Dragonmount yet coming back down alive.  I admit I peek at the bits of poetry at the beginning and end of each book.  The ending one here unsettled me at first for some reason.  But read in context, it was wonderful.   At first I was upset that the series was being extended by another two books, yet now I'm excited to spend that much time around the Dragon truly reborn.

Egwyene's chapters were all fantastic.  I can't say much other than that about her.  I just hope she forgives Suian quickly, and her and Gawyn figure each other out quickly as well.  Nynaeve's stuff was great, although now I really fear Lan dying.  May this be another confusing red herring seeing by Min.  And about Min herself, (One of my favorite characters in the series.) it was great to see her say some true common sense to Cadsune and Nynaeve.  Stop trying to make him do what they want, and just help him.  It's about time somebody said that.  The two even seemed a bit mollified by it.  The Verin twist was just... awesome.  I don't truthfully recall why we were meant to suspect her of much craftiness aside from the normal Aes Sedai idiosyncrasies, but I recalled know we were meant to be looking for something.  This reveal was fantastic, and damn well played.

I'm not the closest of readers when it comes to tone.  The only time I think I noticed parts written by you rather than Jordan were with Mat.  He was writtin a bit to obviously comical, and Talmanes as well.  Not that either were bad, both were more amusing than ever.  Just not their normal selves.

I'm guessing the next book is chiefly Ahviendha's, Egwyene's, and Rand's again.  And of course the team which will finally rescue Moiraine.  Mat, Thom, and dun dun dun.

And... does anybody else think that the final chapter with Rand was the actual reason that this "trilogy" was originally meant to be called A Memory of Light?

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: Forget sex. Let's talk romance.
« on: February 01, 2009, 10:11:01 PM »
I did like how they were together in the second book and having problems.  Often in fiction two people get together and blamo, that's it everytings perfect.  In my experiance most of the problems happen after people get together, and so it was nice to see that.

I do agree that the third book was kind of lacking in the dynamics of their relationship though.  Granted there was a lot of serious stuff going down at the time, but still.

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I think there just wasn't a need to write about the sex.  It just really didn't come up.  Weather Elend and Vin were having sex before being married (I guess not) didn't effect their feelings for each other.  Maybe he did it just to show the last few walls between them, maybe it was a vestige of his personal feelings on that matter, conscious or not.  Elend is described as being attracted to her a few times, and she's described as being good looking.  It's enough for the reader to get the idea.  It's just not a story for that aspect.  Personally I kind of enjoyed it that way, in that the two of them were together without that tension, implying they were comfortable enough with each other not to become smoldering blobs of hormones.

Truthfully I think you're reading to much into this area of the novel.  Straff was definitely a deviant, and a terrible man, but I'd hardly call the only character shown to treat sex thusly enough to call it a trend or an ethical ruling on how the world worked as a whole.  After all, when you get down to it he, Elend and Vin were the only ones in anyway expressly said to have had sex.

Also, to be frank reading a sex scene makes me feel uncomfortable and a bit voyeristic.  Especially if I'm reading in a public place.  It rarelly adds enough to a story to make it worth the rest as far as I'm concerned.

As for religion, he discussed before how important he felt it was to write characters who's views conflicted with his own, and to make sure they came off as truthful in order to give things variety and to keep the characters from being mouthpieces for his views.  At least something to that effect.

Personally I'm an atheist and I'd rather see characters of various and conflicting faiths, and/or the lack thereof in order to make things more realistic and interesting.  I know if I were to write anything, I'd mix things up.  I wouldn't make my views the only ones worthy of notice unless I was trying to push a singular message, which I doubt I would want too.  That would just get overly preachy.  I'd rather relate my own conflicts on what's right and wrong rather than show everything through the lens of my personal resolution.  Also the challenge of showing somebody ELSE as right interests me greatly.




Wow. Really? You really think Mormons are that close-minded? He's an author. This is fiction. There's nothing contrary to his beliefs, it's not hurting anyone's spirituality talking about other faiths in a fictional world. And anyway, Sazed is probably the character that religious people would be able to identify the MOST with--simply because of his search for the truth in HoA.

Oddly enough considering I just said I'm an atheist myself,  I feel the same way about Sazed.  He came to conclusions different from mine, yet his path to it and how the resolution made him feel about it really jived with me.  I think I liked how (I think) Breeze said it: "You're just not meant to be an atheist."  Different people have different ways of thinking which make them work the best as people and give them the most peace with the world, and Sazed found the path for him, which I think is really the most important aspect of things.

PS:  Somebody really needs to add "Elend" and other Sanderson invented names to the spellcheck.

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I already read it, and I knew this would be worse:

I just can't think of anything near this same level.  I was depressed for a good week after reading His Dark Materials, never mind what's coming here.

I loved the Dark Materials.  I read the entire series in about five days I think.  I'm not a quick reader, so I was involved with nothing but those novels for that week.

I was going to read the Chanur series due to Ookla's recommendation and already having it, yet now finding out I seem to have only about half of it, I've shelved it until I can find the rest.  I probably have to find them used or such.

I ended up grabbing the Lies of Locke Lamora.  It's okay thus far, but I'm not sure it's my kind of thing.  Somehow I also got back into reading Pern books.  I've had the series for years, and I've only read about a third of it.  I'm reading the Harper Hall stuff now.  Kind of corny, hoaky, and simplistic, but fun.

Oh man what did Sanderson do to me!  The man is cruel.   That week for His Dark Materials is going to be over a month this time around.  I'm also kind of just MAD at the ending.  It just... it didn't feel like it fit the rest of the series, and it felt abbreviated.  At least the epilogue sections.

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I see what you're saying now.  But bear in mind it's 1 or 16.  You're either a Misting capable of burning a single metal, or a Mistborn capable of all of them.  I doubt that Elend found a group of 258(ish) Mistborn, especially considering Yomen was described to be an Atium misting only.  So the slight oddity of Atium Mistings at all persists, as does the much larger oddity of 16%.

Edit:  (Yeah, I have an editing problem.)  I kind of think that Preservation was causing the numbers based on how people thought there were 16 metals max with Atium being one of them.  But the problems are that most people if not all thought there were fewer metals, and that I thought Preservation set up the Mists to sort of run on autopilot and that Preservation had used up to much of its will/mind/what have you to influence things that directly.

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There is something on the somewhat spoiler filled Allomancy metal poster which you can see here:

http://www.brandonsanderson.com/blog/737/Poster-Near-Final-Version

But the problem persists.  Including the god metals there are 18 different ones.  One of which just causes mistborn or mistings, so it doesn't quite count as burnable.  Neither does Atium, since it too is a god metal.  Therefore the mists should have effected 17 or 18 percent of people in order to reveal the Atium misting secret.  In fact, I'm not even sure why there are any Atium mistings in the first place, as it's an oddity in so many ways.

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Brandon Sanderson / Re: RE Entertainment signs deal with EA
« on: January 20, 2009, 02:50:18 AM »
I would love to play a huge sandbox game set in Mistborn.  The possibilities for city sprawling adventure are huge.  And of course the powerset is different from any which I've seen before.  Something like a super powered Mirror's Edge.  I can't decide if playing as Vin during the first book would make the best game, or some house Mistborn during a House War would be better.

.....  I have to admit I had a dream where I was playing Mirror's Edge and I kept on dying because I couldn't Ironpull on some piping.  Don't read and play games before bed when you're way to tired.

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