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Title: Writing Group
Post by: firstRainbowRose on August 05, 2009, 09:35:10 PM
A friend of mine and I are intrested in putting together a face-to-face writing group here in provo, and I was wondering who all would be intrested.  I feel it's only fair to warn you though that this wouldn't be your typical writing group.  So far, this is the scheduel we have:

First week: read that months submissions and talk about them.  Standard writing group stuff
Second week: LARPing.  For those who needed we would dress up in costume and act out scenes from group memeber's work to help them figure out the blocking, diolouge and other things they might have issues with.
Third Week: Learning -- each month we would research a different topic and then teach each other about it.  (ie - old vs new look at the fae, sword play, ect)
Fourth Week: I haven't figured this one out yet.  But I'm sure we can work out something.

So, if there's anyone intrested in doing something like this, let me know.  I'm just trying to get a feel for how many people would actually want to do these this.

DISCLAIMER:  While dressing up on week 2 may not be required you we will try to coax you into it.  And if most people do and you do not, we will tease you.  All in good fun though...
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: sortitus on August 05, 2009, 10:51:45 PM
What about week five? Week five has been known to happen in some months. Also, if I lived anywhere near there I would join up! :'(
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: firstRainbowRose on August 06, 2009, 05:12:34 AM
I've figured out what would happen in the fourth week.  We would analyze popular media.  (IE watch a movie and then discuss what they did well, what sucked, where character development was, when conflict was added, ect)

As for week five it would be spent sacraficing virgins... of course, eventually I'd have to go to, but that's beside the point.   ;)  Nah, I dunno what we'd do then.  I guess we'd burn the bridge when we came to it.  (With an approprate offering tied to it, of course.)
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Silk on August 06, 2009, 05:18:52 AM
You might have a hard time finding virgins, since I sacrifice one every time I start a new project. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: firstRainbowRose on August 06, 2009, 05:27:38 AM
Well, notice I never said they had to be females.  It's surprising how many men I've found for my own needs.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Silk on August 06, 2009, 06:00:07 AM
I never did, either. :P
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Frog on August 06, 2009, 06:04:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeoZDN5x-qs
Go about two minutes in for the one that relates to this conversation, though it is all pretty funny.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Silk on August 06, 2009, 06:35:23 AM
He's finding it slim pickings, apparently.

Toldya. It's cause I was there first. :D
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: sortitus on August 07, 2009, 11:06:15 PM
I think that sacrificing virgins in a writing group may be a bad idea.

Writer #1: "So, we need to sacrifice people occasionally, but I can't think of the demographic that we should sacrifice to best appease the gods of writing."
Writer #2: "Well, we should probably sacrifice people that have something in common with unpublished authors."
Writer #1: "Good thinking. What do all unpublished authors have in common?"
Writer #2: "We're all sexually and professionally frustrated."
Writer #1: "Ah, very good, we'll sacrifice virgins then!"

Maybe picking a group that won't necessitate preying on members at any time would be best. I propose sacrificing people with good hand-eye coordination.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: stridera on August 08, 2009, 12:17:27 AM
I thought all struggling artists were broke.  When you're broke, you tend to stay home.  Wouldn't they be having more sex?  It is free, after all.  Well, usually...
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: sortitus on August 08, 2009, 12:51:31 AM
That's artists. They have style, flair, and an aptitude for socializing. Most writers I know read and write in all of their free time, leaving little time for relationships as casual as those that pay dividends. Of course, I've heard that when two writers of opposite genders meet, laundry bills go up exponentially. No, I really haven't.

I don't personally know any unpublished authors who are not frustrated, so I just assumed that was the deal with all of them. Myself being the notable exception, obviously. I'm famously successful with the ladies and all of that nonsense. (http://sortitus.googlepages.com/shifty.gif)

We really need a proper shifty eyes emoticon on this forum.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Silk on August 08, 2009, 01:15:44 AM
Maybe picking a group that won't necessitate preying on members at any time would be best. I propose sacrificing people with good hand-eye coordination.

Bad idea. These are spec fic authors you're talking about (you know - professional nerds, or with aspirations as such) which means that the ones who don't practice fencing for "research" probably all play video games.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: sortitus on August 08, 2009, 02:49:38 AM
Blast it all! How about Twilight fans who are also virgins? We won't run short.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 08, 2009, 02:58:09 AM
That's a bad idea they may be into stuff like that...i mean they are turned on by people who feel like corpses and are disco balls in uv
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: sortitus on August 08, 2009, 03:03:09 AM
Hmm... I see your point. We don't want to have to sacrifice an entire screaming horde of fangirls. That would be rather time consuming. What if we told them that we could only turn one person into a vampire and if they brought anyone else we wouldn't choose them? Would that work?
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 08, 2009, 03:08:04 AM
You expect brainless dolts to be able to keep a secret? That's like expecting a german to prefer soy over pork...or a frenchie who hates wine
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: sortitus on August 08, 2009, 03:09:39 AM
What if we just stalk them and look at them all creepy-like at first and then snatch them before they can tell all of their friends?
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 08, 2009, 03:11:29 AM
Still do you want the "victim" moaning when you tie them up? That would get old really fast...
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: sortitus on August 08, 2009, 03:56:23 AM
We prefer the term "offering".
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: firstRainbowRose on August 08, 2009, 05:32:26 AM
I'm sorry, but I'm not even going to sacarfice them.  After all, I need to convert them to the occult of Mi'chelle's writing so I have hords of fans who will make me rich so I can write and teach for a living.  If they're read that brainless mush, maybe they'll upgrade to my stuff in the future.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 08, 2009, 05:38:24 AM
Does your book have a vocabulary level over age 9...well i doubt they could read it anyways
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: firstRainbowRose on August 08, 2009, 05:39:16 AM
Hm... this is true.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Silk on August 08, 2009, 06:05:59 AM
I recommend a movie deal to indoctrinate the masses.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: firstRainbowRose on August 08, 2009, 06:09:00 AM
Yeah, but movies are never good.

What I should write for them is:

Quote
I whined to my mom about how unfair life was.  My whining was noticed by this guy who told me to grow up, but then whispered that he thought it was cute that I wasn't mature.  He also said he had a dark secret.

When I found out his secret I was suddenly attracted to him even more then I had been before.  I begged him to take me away, and he said that he would, but only before breaking my heart.  But I loved him so it was okay.  The end.

The sad part is, throw in a really popular boy that she has the hots for, make the guy with the secret her best friend who's been pining for her for as long as they've known each other, and you've got about 80% of the 15-17 books covered.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: ErikHolmes on August 08, 2009, 06:15:04 AM
You might have a hard time finding virgins, since I sacrifice one every time I start a new project. Sorry about that.

Are you kidding? She lives in UTAH.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 08, 2009, 05:49:53 PM
Why is it that people believe their religous group behaves differently than any other? Sex outside of marriage is considered sin by most religons but maybe 5% of the followers care the rest are hormonal and want to get laid...
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Frog on August 08, 2009, 07:21:41 PM
Why is it that people believe their religous group behaves differently than any other?
I would say it was because it is harder to speak of what you don't personally know. I think I know my religion fairly well. I have meet several hundred members from different areas and seen how they live. And based on that I would question your estimated percentage from within the context my own religion. I can't say that for other religions simply because I do not have enough experience with any one group to project any sort of estimate, but if others with a different experience want to chime in, I would not discredit them. Though really, I think this conversation is once again getting into a pattern that could be degrading for us all, even if it started as joke.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: ErikHolmes on August 08, 2009, 09:49:51 PM
Why is it that people believe their religous group behaves differently than any other?

I believe it because it's true.

The national average of seniors who've had sex is a over 60%. In Utah it's around 15%.

I finished high school in Utah. My group of close friends in high school was about 10 guys. Out of them, only one had sex during high school. And we were hardly the good kids in school.

You can chalk those statistics up to whatever you want. But the fact is, Utah has the lowest percent of sexually active high school kids. It has the lowest percentage of unwed mothers, even though it has the highest birthrate.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 08, 2009, 11:15:41 PM
How on earth do you come up with statistics like that have a mandatory physical and check their hymen? or do you take their word for it? that's hardly an accurate way to do anything... anyways arguing over a point in which both parties have already decided where they stand is a moot point...further discussion serves no purpose
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Shaggy on August 10, 2009, 08:33:25 PM
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... anyways arguing over a point in which both parties have already decided where they stand is a moot point...further discussion serves no purpose
I disagree. People's minds can be changed. Especially with the use of statistics (sometimes).
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: firstRainbowRose on August 10, 2009, 09:25:05 PM
No offense meant, but if you wish to continue discussing if Utahns do or do not have sex more or less then the rest of the world, please move it onto it's own topic.  I'd prefer to keep this strictly for finding members of the writing group, thank you.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 10, 2009, 09:49:47 PM
I was trying to get the topic dropped which everyone understood with the exception of shaggy
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Shaggy on August 10, 2009, 10:09:30 PM
Hey if you wanna make statements and have them not be challenged even if they're nonsensical, you gotta speak up.

And if you want to end the discussion, say so, don't try and finish it with yet ANOTHER point.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Patriotic Kaz on August 11, 2009, 05:12:58 PM
Explain to me how my healthy beleif that people lie almost as much as they are honest being nonsensical? (and yes that was a tad bit of sarcasm) Seriously though surveys are not trustworthy (they are brethren to pie in that respect) hell in a similar survey i took in 7th grade i put yes on "Are you sexualy active?" and so did half the guys in my class because of how ridiculous the survey was...

If in lived near you i would be most definately be interested in the group. Alas, 1000+ miles is a little much
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Shaggy on August 11, 2009, 05:36:13 PM
That's not what I was talking about. But due to the annoyance of other posters on this thread, how bout we drop it?

Yes, the distance is a little too much for me as well.  :(
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Andrew the Great on August 11, 2009, 06:36:34 PM
The group sounds extremely fun, but driving 3 hours down and 3 hours back once a week doesn't.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: stridera on August 11, 2009, 06:46:01 PM
My parents live in Alpine, so maybe I'll have to jump in a session or two next time I go visit.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: little wilson on August 15, 2009, 04:47:21 AM
When I move down to Provo next year (hopefully), and if you're still doing this, I will TOTALLY join the fun. And fun is exactly what it sounds like, especially if you're not sacrificing virgins. I'd like to keep my heartbeat...
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: firstRainbowRose on August 15, 2009, 04:51:28 AM
Well, at least, not ones in the group.  And don't worry Wilson, I might not start it until you get down here.  So far I have me, and a friend from work.  That's it.  I think we want to have at least four or five memebers (at least I do) and I'm HOPING for at least one guy.  So, you know, you're totally welcome to join if/when you move.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: sortitus on August 15, 2009, 05:10:06 AM
If this didn't include moving to the scariest city in the USA, I'd totally join up. Hows about we meet in a neutral location? SLC, perhaps? ;) Just kidding. Either way, there's no way for me to make it. I'm stuck where I am for another semester at least, but we'll see where I can go after that. It's not going to be Provo, though. I can guarantee that.

My hatred for Provo is showing. Nobody hate me for hating their city, now.

I'll say one good thing about it; Provo has very good availability of foreign foods for its size.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: firstRainbowRose on August 15, 2009, 05:14:31 AM
And see, I'd be willing to meet all of you people from SLC and above half way.  I just can't afford the gas to travel all the way up there (just like you can't afford to come down here.)  But I'm pretty sure I could manage going to like Lehi, or AF or something.  (That's about half way, right?)
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: little wilson on August 15, 2009, 06:34:57 AM
Trust me, sortitus, I wouldn't move to Provo unless I had a good reason to...My reason is that one of my friends wants to move down there to go to school. And my younger sisters might possibly join her. And since I graduate with my BA next year (again, hopefully), I won't have anything to do except write, and I can do that anywhere, and I'd like to be with my friend, and my sisters (it's their first time out on their own--meaning away from parents--and I'd like to be in a position to keep an eye on them), and that means Provo.

Plus, I'll be able to meet Mi'chelle finally, and perhaps I'll even be able to make it to a release party or two (since I freaking missed the last one  >:().
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: stridera on August 15, 2009, 06:38:30 AM
Anyone from Utah remember the song they used to play back in the day?

"Going down to provo, going to pick me up some fat chicks."

Or is that just me? :)
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Andrew the Great on August 16, 2009, 06:34:32 AM
little wilson, I've missed all of Brandon's release parties so far, just because I can't convince my parents to let me drive down to provo on my own, and they don't want to take me. It's very much a sad situation.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: little wilson on August 16, 2009, 07:09:07 AM
Where in Idaho are you from? (I live in Twin Falls, that's why I'm asking...)

I really thought I'd be able to get down to the Warbreaker release, but alas, that didn't pan out the way I wanted it to (I was moving into my apartment in Rexburg the Saturday before, and Chris/miyabi drove down that day, and I didn't have any other way to get down to Provo).

So yes. I may dislike Utah (driving down there is INSANE! People here get on my case for my driving, but geez. I'm like Driving Miss Daisy compared to the average Utah driver...), but if I'm living in Provo in the next couple of years, oh boy will I be going to the release parties...They will totally make up for the location.
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: Silk on August 16, 2009, 07:51:19 PM
little wilson, I've missed all of Brandon's release parties so far, just because I can't convince my parents to let me drive down to provo on my own, and they don't want to take me. It's very much a sad situation.

I've missed all Sanderson's release parties (and will continue to do so) 'cuz I live in Canada. :P
Title: Re: Writing Group
Post by: stridera on August 17, 2009, 01:55:18 AM
Maybe I'll take a vacation up to Utah to visit the parents during the next one.