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Local Authors => Brandon Sanderson => Topic started by: WriterDan on November 06, 2008, 06:43:15 PM
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I know that this is a question for EUOL, and that he doesn't usually frequent the boards, but I thought I'd put this up here anyways, just in case he does see it, or some of his close buddies know the answer to this one.
The initial goal for AMoL was 400k, with a very probable increase. 400k though is what Brandon has for his end-year goal though. At one of the cons, he said that AMoL was probably going to be more like 600k when finished, and Tom Doherty said that it was probably going to be bound into two books. Then, just recently on Writing Excuses, Brandon said that he was writing a 700k fantasy novel (which I can only assume that he meant again, AMoL).
So, if the book really is going to be 700k words, and it's going to be split into two volumes, I was curious if both of those volumes are still going to be released back to back, or if there'll be a more significant time lag between the two. With a goal of 400k by December (just over "half" of the "book"), and a proposed release date of Fall of 2009, does this leave enough time to get the second "half" of the book done and out by approximately the same time? And if they're not going to both end up coming out really close to one another is there going to be some sort of min-climax for the end of the first half, or is it just going to be cut somewhere in the middle?
I just can't help but notice that Brandon has been emphasizing that he said 400k words would be completed by December, and not that the book would be done by December. Guess I'm mostly looking for a revised time schedule because Brandon is usually stays in such close contact with his readers. Might be worrying about this too much though.
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This is something that's is still being discussed and I know that EUOL wont say anything about it until there's an official announcement about it.
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RJ wrote a lot of the end, and the way Brandon's been talking, I think that bit ballparks to 200k words. Before his death RJ, and even now with Harriet, there was a lot of insistence that it be published as one book. So far as I can tell, Harriet has relented a little, and rumors are that it'll be published initially as two books, back-to-back with a month or so gap; then after another few months, it'll be set out as a single book.
Mind you: those are rumors. As Sprig pointed out, Brandon is being very respectful with this project: he won't utter a word about it until Harriet and Tom release something official.
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First of all I don't want to get worked up about nothing; I am sure that whatever decision is made will be the right one.
However, if it actually is NOT possible to publish as one book, they should do as much as they can to respect RJ's wishes. Instead of releasing two books seperately they should release one book in two volumes, similar to what Tolkien originally wanted done with The Lord of the Rings. Just cut it in half, with 350k for each volume.
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First of all I don't want to get worked up about nothing; I am sure that whatever decision is made will be the right one.
However, if it actually is NOT possible to publish as one book, they should do as much as they can to respect RJ's wishes. Instead of releasing two books seperately they should release one book in two volumes, similar to what Tolkien originally wanted done with The Lord of the Rings. Just cut it in half, with 350k for each volume.
That would be great. I am going to start re-reading them as soon as this semester is over. Gives me about a year to burn through 11 1000 page works. I've got a long road ahead of me. :P
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I don't know why they would need to publish the two halves a month apart. It's not like someone will read the first half and then decide that they don't want to read the ending to the whole series! I think it should just be published as a two volume set right away so we don't have to wait any longer.
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I think that if they do have to split it, both parts should be packaged together, to be as close to one book as possible.
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I know as a fan I'd like it all in one book, no matter how big. But that probably won't happen, I'm sure there are other marketing factors to the situation to consider.
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I too would prefer one volume. I've seen huge books printed before. Heck, I have a copy of Shakespeare's complete works that is about twice as wide as any Jordan book. Maybe if THEIR printers aren't up to the task they can just outsource it :)
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When he came to Denver CO for a book signing, the group of us asked him about it. He said he didn't have the same pull RJ did and that RJ had always said that if he needed to, he would get TOR to make a new binding to accommodate the book, but BS didn't believe for a minute that he could get that out of them. He said the most he might be able to do would be to get them to release both books at the same time and he planned to try.
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When he came to Denver CO for a book signing, the group of us asked him about it. He said he didn't have the same pull RJ did and that RJ had always said that if he needed to, he would get TOR to make a new binding to accommodate the book, but BS didn't believe for a minute that he could get that out of them. He said the most he might be able to do would be to get them to release both books at the same time and he planned to try.
Go go Brandon! And Louds of Gravy, agreed. I have two different 'Bibles of Shakespeare,' and both are pushing binding to extremes. Though, the newest RSC version is quite a bit...larger. I would love to read from a larger book. It would be awesome. (Though, it may remind me of a textbook...and that'd kill the moment for a second or two.)
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For those wanting both books released at the same time: Bookstores have limited shelf space and would be much happier to be able to put one book out and sell it and then have space to put out the other book.
There are a lot of factors that go into bookselling that the customer doesn't tend to think about.
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For those wanting both books released at the same time: Bookstores have limited shelf space and would be much happier to be able to put one book out and sell it and then have space to put out the other book.
There are a lot of factors that go into bookselling that the customer doesn't tend to think about.
Meanwhile in Libraries (at least in my experience with five different ones in my area)...it's not uncommon to get 20-40 copies of a VERY popular new release simply because they'll all be servicing the massive held book backlogs for the first month or two after the release and then sell off the majority of them as used books after they start "cluttering the shelves". It's what happened with one RJ novel when I worked in a library and what happened with Harry Potter when I worked in another. The thicker the book, the more overdue fees we're looking at so the more likely the library is to actually PROFIT (and be able to turn around and buy more books when the next one comes out).
If we get a two volume release, it'll either have to be bundled or libraries will be the first place that you can actually find copies of volume two without a pre-order.
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Brandon actually spoke about splitting AMoL at the Portland signing. I'll try and hit the high points from memory as accurately as I can.
Basically nothing is set in stone but Tor is pushing for splitting the book. Brandon said bound in one volume the book would look something like this, then he grabbed 3 copies of HoA and held them up as reference. The cost of binding a book that large would require a price point so high that it would be economically silly for Tor to do it. He also said splitting would mean that the first half could be published earlier while the second half was still a work in progress.
My take from Brandon's talk was that he has little pull over if the book is split. The question is not if a single volume is wanted but if it is economically feasible. I would pay $50 easy for one volume but I think 2 volumes are pretty much a certainty.
On a related note, when I heard Brandon was finishing the series I was apprehensive. After reading Elantris and the MB series I had hope and after the signing I'm comfortable that last book will be done as well as it could be by anyone other than RJ. Brandon talked about working with Harriet and meeting Wilson and working on the series. He talks about it on his blog but to hear him speak about tWoT, just what a hardcore fan his is really comes out which I found very reassuring. And the katana story was very cool!
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He also said splitting would mean that the first half could be published earlier while the second half was still a work in progress.
I guess earlier would be good...or maybe it would be like prolonging the torture :P
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He said on the blog, f he was to meet the Nov release date, he would have to finish the first half and get it it published while he worked on the second, so it looks like it will be 13 books, not 12 (14 counting new spring)
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He said on the blog, f he was to meet the Nov release date, he would have to finish the first half and get it it published while he worked on the second, so it looks like it will be 13 books, not 12 (14 counting new spring)
I would hate that. We've been waiting so long for this book, that I want ALL of it at once, not just half. :-\
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I agree; it wouldn't be fair to only give us half first. ß
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The only thing is that Mr. Sanderson is such a prolific writer that any second or subsequent volume would be released rather quickly after the first. Instead of the two year wait we're used too, it might only be a six month wait instead. I've been waiting so long that I just want something. They had released some prologues and first chapters before the whole book had come out and I'm hoping that they (Harriet) decides to do it again.
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Yes, but there's just something nice about sitting down and reading a complete novel, because if a story that could be compacted into one book is split into two, I find that the ending of the first one leaves me a little unsatisfied and wanting more.
Point taken, though.
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Now, I wouldn't mind a Prologue and a couple of chapters. However, I would hate having a half a book. It's like having half a television. You don't get the same experience unless you have it all. Of couse, the TV wouldn't work either. ;) :P
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Haha. And, also, if you had half a television you wouldn't be watching it. 8)
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Having managed a bookstore, I can tell you that I pretty much assumed the book would be split from page 1. A book that is 700K-ish words is flipping huge. It would make a terrible paperback, and it would be dang-near impossible to shelve. The hardback would be a beast too - the cost of printing it may make it a concern (though only a slight on given the past sales history of a RJ novel). Realistically, if the first part ends with a decent mini-climax, then it is really no different than a transition from book x to book y. And sorry, but from a business standpoint from Tor's perspective, 2 volumes will make an absolute killing. I would think, however, they would offer a small discount for volume 2.
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considering that Brandon has not only finished about half the book, but also finished the first revision of that half, I am totally in favor of splitting it if it means we get a book faster than we would have. I am DYING to read some more WoT.
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I think it's important to remember that Brandon has no control over whether Tor splits the book or not.
And if Tor decides to split it, let's also remember that we're lucky that we're getting the ending in the first place. I'll be happy to read the last book any way that it comes!
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I guess you know what you're talking about, Bookstore guy. Wouldn't be too bad, I guess.
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I hope they split it because I don't want this big huge monster book with itty bitty font to read. What makes me even more patient is there's a excellent hardworking author working on it who's relatively open about his work. I'm enjoying following along as he writes this book. He markets himself brilliantly, I think.
After waiting for aDwD from GRRM these past years, and his attitude towards people who ask about it on his blog, it's very refreshing to follow along with an author like Brandon Sanderson. It has made a big enough impression on me that when Mr. Sanderson publishes Book 1 in his 10 book series I will be at the store to buy it the day it is released. When GRRM starts his next series after aSoIaF I'll pass.
It is my opinion that GRRM treats us like pesky fans. Brandon Sanderson, however, treats us like customers, and for that he has earned my loyalty.
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Please…my brain does not comprehend acronyms. What are you saying?
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aDwD = A Dance With Dragons
GRRM = George R R Martin
aSoIaF = A Song of Ice and Fire
A Song of Ice and Fire is an epic fantasy series by George R R Martin, which started with the book A Game of Thrones. A Dance With Dragons is the title of the next book currently being worked on, and it's been in progress for quite some time now with GRRM saying very little about when it might be ready to publish.
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And dont forget that A Dance with Dragons in it's inception was really just a concurrent story with A Feast for Crows (Feast for Crows got too big, so he originally split the stories based on region - who knows what he is really doing now). So really, this book has taken FOREVER.
Why, hello there Mr. CtrlZed. The man is right, just be happy that a portion of the story is being sent to print instead of having to wait a full extra year or longer for them to figure out how to fit all that work into 1 behemoth binding. And really, just be glad Harriet decided that the work should be finished.
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He said on the blog, f he was to meet the Nov release date, he would have to finish the first half and get it it published while he worked on the second, so it looks like it will be 13 books, not 12 (14 counting new spring)
Why count New Spring? It's basically a "Tales of" book.
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After waiting for aDwD from GRRM these past years, and his attitude towards people who ask about it on his blog, it's very refreshing to follow along with an author like Brandon Sanderson. It has made a big enough impression on me that when Mr. Sanderson publishes Book 1 in his 10 book series I will be at the store to buy it the day it is released. When GRRM starts his next series after aSoIaF I'll pass.
It is my opinion that GRRM treats us like pesky fans. Brandon Sanderson, however, treats us like customers, and for that he has earned my loyalty.
Publius - I couldn't agree with you more. Just this last week I have decided I can no longer recommend friends read GRRM. I've lost faith in him finishing ADWD anytime before 2012 and he seems to have no interest in ever finishing ASOIAF. Too Bad. :(
Now compare that to Sanderson. He is a prolific writer, he actually enjoys writing, doesn't really have other hobbies to distract him, keeps his work load manageable, keeps his fans/customers abreast of his progress, and on and on and on. What a HUGE difference. That is why I don't recommend GRRM to anyone any more, but I'm always suggesting people try Sanderson's books.
And since this thread is about splitting AMOL, I'll add my opinion on that, just to keep things on topic. :)
It would be nice to get the rest of WoT at once (one book), but it seems like it's pretty much a done deal that the book will be split. Brandon has stated that AMOL will end up being close to 750K words. The chances of TOR publishing that much in one volume are practically zero. Brandon has said he would ask TOR to print a special edition with both volumes in one, if AMOL is split. I believe that special edition would come out after AMOL volume 2 is published, and that's the best we can hope for ever seeing AMOL printed in one volume.
I like to think of myself as an optimist, so I'm just focusing on the good things that would come out of AMOL being split.
1 - Completing the final draft and review of half the book should take less time than the full book. Hopefully this results in volume 1 being released a little bit earlier than it would take to release the entire book. The sooner I can read more of WoT the better!
2 - I love reading WoT. I really want to find out how it ends, but at the same time I've LOVED the journey. Having AMOL split would just lengthen the wonderful journey that is the WoT!
Hopefully the release dates of the volumes will be VERY close to each other. Like within a month or two!
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I'm actually glad it will probably be released in 2 books. Its not like we have to wait 2 years for it this time and hopefully with 2 books they will stay in their bindings after the 6th or 7th read rather then fall apart.
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There is another thing about it being split. It will make 13 books, and 13 is not a number without significance in the books. :) (not as huge as 9 for LotR, but it does have significance)
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I can be a little superstitious sometimes, but I think that would be going too far.
And, technically, it's one story in two parts–just like they did with some of the previous books.
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I was referring to the number 13 being important in the books, not in superstitions.
If you have 13 Chosen and 13 fades you can turn someone to the shadow.
A circle of 13 can shield any male channeler.
And others...
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I agree that 13 is an important # in the series and have long thought that 13 books would be the appropriate number.
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Oh, my bad. Sorry, I thought you were saying something else. If the Dark One won in the thirteenth book that'd be sorta cool….
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I always thought that it would be cool if the last word of the series was ... flicker ...
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lol that would really, really suck. I
hate Hate HATE stories that are like that.
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Oh, don't get me wrong - there will be a valid, viable ending that wraps up what needs to be wrapped up, but that one word will be the only word in the lower-right corner of an otherwise blank page at the very end. I think that would be awesome. :)
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I always thought that it would be cool if the last word of the series was ... flicker ...
Oh my God, I think I would go insane. I'd wake up in the middle of an empty field with a bottle of whiskey in one hand and a sawed off shotgun in the other. My life would be ruined by that one little word.
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ok, i will bite... what does that mean?
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When Rand took the group via Portal Stone to Toman Head they traveled through several alternative histories, frequently ending with Ba'alzamon saying I win again Lews Therin, followed by flicker, and another history would be experienced...flicker...and another history experienced...flicker, etc
so flicker at the end would be saying the series was a dream/;not the final reality and there are alternative endings
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so flicker at the end would be saying the series was a dream/;not the final reality and there are alternative endings
I think that Brandon Sanderson may be required to write 12 more books if that is how is would end....
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Not even possible. There's no way RJ would screw with us like that.
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We already know there's a Fourth Age (Right... fourth?) after this present one, and that to me is one of the most interesting things about the series. How does that time come about? It appears to be a good age, which got off to a rocky start. It seemed to have conflicting views of Rand, some good some bad. The lense of history applied to him is interesting to me. I wish we could have had a book of future history, going into detail on how empires rose and fell, and how they all thought of the Dragon.
I just finished Memory Sorry and Thorn, saying "The Dragon" in this context still sounds weird.
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That's the sign of a great book though–the fact that you want to read more about it.
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I always thought that it would be cool if the last word of the series was ... flicker ...
God that would piss me of so much!!!!! If RJ was still alive it would excite me though as it would bring the possibility of a new WoT series :(
I still wish he could have written a series on Lews Therrin and the war of power!
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That…would be awesome.
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About the topic (it seems it degenerated a bit in the last posts, uh? :D )
Here in Spain we have a small editorial company named Gigamesh. They have great taste in fantasy and scifi books, and they tend to make high quality and customer oriented (which means the same) translations and editions.
They got the rights to publish aSoFaI (I'll use acronyms as they have been stated in page 2) and they started with paperback instead of hardcover (as I said elsewhere, books in Spain are REALLY expensive, and such huge books would be extremely costly) by attending to fantasy fans feedback.
Books 3 (A Storm of Swords) and 4 (Feast for Crows) had to be splitted in two because of their length. They just simply got them wrapped in plastic together (what's it called in English? In Spanish it's "retractilado") and sold as one book.
They were concerned with book 4 because some stores unwrapped them and sold them as two books but I don't think that could happen with aMoL because Tor isn't a small company as Gigamesh.
As I did when they asked, to save pages to the books, I would suggest the appendix (it takes several dozen of pages in last WoT books) to be set a separate small book, so they don't have to publish appendixes in both books.
Oddly, I made the suggestion to save money and they took it to the Deluxe Edition ???
So, we all know it will be 2 volumes. It is just, what do you prefer? Having both volumes at once in, say, 2010? Or have one volume... say end 2009 and the other in end 2010?
I'm guessing based on what BS tells in his website, no way I can know when they will actually be released.
Also, I would like to tell you about the experience we have here in Spain with WoT.
The biggest fantasy company in here is Timun Mas. It was broke and some supposed fans took up with it. They got WoT rights. They published the first 3 volumes (that's it, till TDR). Then, they decided to split the following books in two. They sold each book at more or less the same price they have been selling the first 3 so........... they got to gain double and we had to pay double. We knew nothing of this practice because the web was not so common those days.
So, we know what it is to get split books. It is weird. Endings of the first halves are untasty. Begginings on the second halves are strange. Moreso when they release one book a year. Definetely, I would rather have aMoL in one book at once, whether it is 1-2 or 3 volumes, than having it on episodes.
Oh, I read French version of Feast for Crows went out in 3 or 4 volumes. THAT must be unnerving.....
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I always thought that it would be cool if the last word of the series was ... flicker ...
Oh lord no. Please no.
To be honest, that was one of my favorite parts in the series, and I love what he was doing there, but ending the book with that would ruin everything for me. I hate stories where nothing ends up being real.
SURPRISE! It was a dream!
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We may prefer it to come out a certain way (both volumes in one year for example), but simple logic demands that Tor make as much money as possible. They will make more if they release it in subsequent years starting this November, and the next volume released next November - in the US.
As for the foreign releases, I couldn't say. all the European countries split the novels. The novel splitting in Germany drove me crazy when I looked for German editions of my favorite books.
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Well, if the only thing was to make as more money as possible, Tor would have sold at least 20 WoT books, not 11 (apart from "New Spring").
I suppose the author's will counts here. He has constructed one novel (be it a stand alone one or one of a series) and he wants it to be enjoyed as a whole.
Also, this practice annoys the costumer, who is the one who pays. Timun Mas splits any novel with more than 400-500 pages. This has led a lot of people to learn english and purchase the UK editions of WoT, Sword of Truth and others.
And it can lead to disaster. The Malazan Empire series, one which is fairly long, original (of what I've heard) and succesful, was a disaster in Spain because they split the first book (the weakest one, as people say) in two, for a total of around 30 euros (40-50 dollars).
It's obvious aMoL would be succesful even if they released it on recycled paper used to wrap fish, but people will start buying WoT after it's released, and Tor has started to split books in the series recently, they have to keep the balance between making money and annoying people so they can sell the series to new readers.
I believe this forum (as well as other forums authors and publishers check) are good places where people can express their concern so that the ones in charge will take them into account.
Sorry for the sluggy post, midnight passed when I was writing and I had a hard day :-[
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Im realy sorry for not being able to read the 2 other pre stories before eye of the world (RJ was saying he was planing to do 3 of them, but he did only make one, the new spring). Im sorry that the story about Mat and Tuon after TG will not be written, and RJ did have plans for that one to.
The thing is, i dont mind if AMOL was 10 books. Infact, i DONT want the story to finish at all. Once AMOL is released, its all over :( and i dont want it to be.
Sorry for my bad english, its not my native language.
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Sorry for my bad english, its not my native language.
I honestly couldn't tell, and I am a native speaker. Your grammar is pretty good. You've got a few spelling errors, but not many of them and I've seen a lot worse from native English speakers.
I agree, it will be a bit sad when the series is finally over, but it would be worse to drag it out forever. It would be very nice to have the series continue, but only by going further beyond TG or into other new plot lines.
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Thank you :)
Yes i know, the story cant be draged out forever, i know that. The thing that bothers me is that i will allways think about the 3 books that RJ was planing, the two books before Eye of the world and the book with Mat and Tuon :X It wouldn`t suprise me if he was planing a book about Perrins Fate to, beond TG. And about Lan.... god, there is alot of stories i want to read about in that world :)
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Well, Casco, you're right, the series could go on forever (the story about the DO liberation from his prison, the Shadow War, the individual stories.................).
But, well, think of that many TV series who have gone forever..... they always stretched things too far away from their original purpose. We all know RJ wouldn't do that, but he couldn't be writing forever (think 1 book a year, which is a very fast pace, he could have been writing for 40 years more). Better to let the series finish and never let it die within us. Should he be able write everything down, there would have been no place for discussion and theories and random ideas, so the WoT would have died in time.
Best stories are those which, even after their end, they live forever. And Wot is one of those. For sure.
PS: just noticed, why do we always tend to think of the DO as male? And... does that mean the Creator is female? :-\
Not strictly, of course, just about ying/yang dynamics.
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PS: just noticed, why do we always tend to think of the DO as male? And... does that mean the Creator is female? :-\
Not strictly, of course, just about ying/yang dynamics.
This is just another reason why so many people think Bela is the Creator. For reals. :D
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hehe ye, what about that horse! it seems like she got some part in TG :)
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I suppose that's the meaning of IT IS NOT HERE.
That's it, Bela was not there ;D
I guess we'll see the DO as a Black Horse being mounted by Moridin against Rand mounting Bela.
That should be something to see :D
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I guess we'll see the DO as a Black Horse being mounted by Moridin against Rand mounting Bela.
That should be something to see :D
Can't wait to see the fan art.
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PS: just noticed, why do we always tend to think of the DO as male? And... does that mean the Creator is female? :-\
Not strictly, of course, just about ying/yang dynamics.
Ok, here's a thought. In the AMoL thread we have been discussing Shaidar Haran as possibly part of the essence of the DO, but in Shaidar Haran's POV he refers to himself as "it". So maybe the DO doesn't have a gender.
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Or maybe he's an eunuch.
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There is no reason at all to think the Dark One has a gender, as he is not human. The masculine personal pronoun is certainly due to linguistic convention and tradition, not reality. I believe RJ already stated as much, in connection with the Question of the Week sessions run by Tor around the time of the release of Crossroads of Twilight, but I cannot be bothered to look it up unless someone presses me on the matter.
Shaidar Haran is another matter, we know for certain that he is male, for two main reasons. One, there are no female Myrddraal, and two, he has to date raped both Moghedien and Alviarin.
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One, there are no female Myrddraal
Well…so far. You never know. two, he has to date raped both Moghedien and Alviarin.
Really?? When? I don't remember that.…
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RJ stated that he did so apparently He can, what's more that is how Fades are made. I think it's in LoC where there are two women crying in a corner and a Fade comes for one of them. It's then implied that she is raped, gets pregnant and gives brith to another Fade and dies from it. It's pretty horrible.
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So if he raped them, shouldn't they both be dead?? ???
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From Encyclopedia WOT -
Myrddraal are the spawn of Trollocs and the taint of evil is even stronger in them. They are man-sized and are pasty white. They have no eyes, yet they see like eagles. They have powers that stem from the Dark One. They are no match for an Aes Sedai, but they can best most warriors. The look of a Fade inspires fear in men. In the Trolloc Wars, Dreadlords commanded Fades that led Trollocs into battle.
All Myrddraal are male. They are not sterile but they cannot reproduce with either humans or Trollocs.
I don't remember the scene you are talking about, but I know it is implied that they do rape women.
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These conflict:
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Myrddraal are the spawn of Trollocs and the taint of evil is even stronger in them. They are man-sized and are pasty white. They have no eyes, yet they see like eagles. They have powers that stem from the Dark One. They are no match for an Aes Sedai, but they can best most warriors. The look of a Fade inspires fear in men. In the Trolloc Wars, Dreadlords commanded Fades that led Trollocs into battle.
All Myrddraal are male. They are not sterile but they cannot reproduce with either humans or Trollocs.
she is raped, gets pregnant and gives brith to another Fade and dies from it. It's pretty horrible.
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Wait I'm confused. Are we talking about Myrddraals or Fades? Or are they the same thing? Also, what does this have to do with splitting AMoL? I think we've lost the topic.
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They're the same thing.
And yes, this is rather off topic for this thread.
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On topic : As much as I dont agree with a double release, I think business-wise there is no other option. Its going to be 700k+ words .... A little too much for one book.
I do believe RJ would have liked one release to keep the fans happy. I am crossing my fingers for one release. But not holding my breath.
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They only die if they become pregnant and give birth. Moggy and Alvarin I would assume take precautions against such things. We don't see the scene but apparently RJ was asked and he said yes Moggy was raped by SH.
Also I say Fade because I have trouble spelling the actual name.
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Shard, do you have any evidence that women can become pregnant if raped by a fade? Otherwise, I think that they are sterile. And then we could end the off-topicness.
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Quote that Moggy got raped:
http://www.darkfriends.net/wheel/1_dark/1.4_whats-up-dark/1.4.08_shaidar-haran-mog.html
Okay I got it messed up, Trollocs are the ones impregnanting the women.
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No biggie, Shard.
On topic: Looks like an announcement is going to be made early next week, probably Monday, regarding splitting the book. (Check out Tor's website/Brandon's blog.) Then we won't have to speculate anymore. Yay!
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That is good that we will get that settled as well, I figure it's at least going to be two books though there is a chance that they will do it into 3. I think I rather have two 350k books then three 250k. Though as some have already stated I know for sure I'll get them in whatever format I just hope they don't sacrifice quality for quantity.
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Two volumes that are 350k-400k would seems more something that would fit the series by looking at word counts rather than three smaller ones.
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Yeah…and three books are kind of a pain.…
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well now we know it is three books!!!
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And they wont be only 250k words long.. maby 300k as the other books in the series.
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Well, I'm just glad that we will still be getting a book in November! And I'm sure all the books will be high-quality. They made the right decision.
So anyone care to speculate on where the splits will take place? I'm guessing that the first book will end after resolving the White Tower situation (i.e. the Tower will be made whole again with Egwene as Amyrlin.) This is something that needs to happen before the Last Battle and it seems like it is the situation most ready to be resolved.
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I would like to echo the people saying that three books is just fine---now that I know why it is three books!
It also make it much less likely that RJ was stretching it out. The storyline is simply massive!
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happyman there are a couple of scenes that are arguably not needed and add nothing to the story and stretch it out i mean 9 and 10 really read like he was dragging his feet but KoD was fabulous...
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I'm guessing that the first book will end after resolving the White Tower situation (i.e. the Tower will be made whole again with Egwene as Amyrlin.) This is something that needs to happen before the Last Battle and it seems like it is the situation most ready to be resolved.
Hmm, I don't know. I mean, you're right that Egwene seems close to victory there, but we have to remember the Seanchan attack that she dreamed about. Perhaps that will occur after she regains the stole, though, so you could still be right.
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I don't mind there being three volumes, basically it gives me more time to enjoy my favorite fantasy series!
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One thing that HAS to be in the first book, is when Galad and Morgase meets. The whitecloaks with Galad as the leader is on the way to Perrins camp (if he doesnt take a portal) and they have to meet. Will Galad see his mother?? It would be a realy good reading there, after all, he did kill the leader of the whitecloakes based on the thought that he have killed his mother.
One more thing needs to be there, Mat resquing Moiraine and take her to Rand. Maby the meeting between Tuon and Rand to.
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I'm going to step in and lock this thread, we don't need two discussing splitting AMoL and this thread has deviated from what it's supposed to be about.