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Title: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Reaves on October 19, 2008, 11:56:15 PM
Just thought we needed a thread for those who have read the book to gloat over their correct or not so correct theories. I have not even finished it yet but realized we needed something like this, if only to justify the months we've spent theorizing!! Let the one-upmanship begin!!

Also, as I said I am not even done yet but when I read Spook's third? chapter I almost laughed.
yeah, i knew it.  kelsier lives.

Also if the epigraphs do turn out to be written by Sazed I called that too. I'm not sure where I said it but I'll find it eventually. And from where I'm standing page 100? that possibility is looking greater and greater... :D :) :D
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on October 20, 2008, 12:43:43 AM
All I have to say now about your post is: MWA HA HA HA HA.
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on October 20, 2008, 01:15:54 AM
MWAHAHAHA!

I'm just saying that because evil laughs are cool.

Also Reaves, when you finish, move into the main Spoiler topic at the top of the Brandon Sanderson forum. That's the one where we talk about spoilers, and also get feedback from Brandon himself. I'm surprised, really, that he's responded to the vast majority of inquiries already, what with the Book Tour and all.

Someone should give that guy a Gold Star for Being Awesome and Caring For the Fans.
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Andrew the Great on October 20, 2008, 01:47:58 AM
MWAHAHAHA!!!!!
 
Just wanted in on the action.
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on October 20, 2008, 02:14:46 AM
This topic is what I was referring to when I wrote, "Chaos, something in your most recent post made me cackle with glee. Just wait until you read the book. ;)"
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Czanos on October 20, 2008, 02:15:37 AM
MWAHAHAHA!

I'm just saying that because evil laughs are cool.

Also Reaves, when you finish, move into the main Spoiler topic at the top of the Brandon Sanderson forum. That's the one where we talk about spoilers, and also get feedback from Brandon himself. I'm surprised, really, that he's responded to the vast majority of inquiries already, what with the Book Tour and all.

Someone should give that guy a Gold Star for Being Awesome and Caring For the Fans.

Incredibly off-topic, but does anyone know what kind of pressure it would take to start reacting gold in the same way elements are reacted in stars? That'd be a lot of gold.

Also, I was just noticing that gold is a very "valuable" Allomantic metal? It's alloyed with both electrum and malatium, on top of being a base metal itself.

And to give this topic a smidgen of on-topickness, I believe I was the first to mention what Ruin was looking for, but I had it in the wrong location/form. Chaos got that one right.  (And technically that's a spoiler, because we didn't find out Ruin was looking for something until one of the sample Hero of Ages chapters, but it is in the prologue.)

And BWAHAHAHAHA! End of post trickery!
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Phaz on October 20, 2008, 02:18:27 AM
I don't remember who it was, but someone was dead set on Reen's voice not being Ruin, to the point of where they didn't even want it discussed.  I was pretty sure it was Ruin.  :)
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on October 20, 2008, 02:36:47 AM
This topic is what I was referring to when I wrote, "Chaos, something in your most recent post made me cackle with glee. Just wait until you read the book. ;)"

I don't even remember what my post was which warranted such a statement.
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Czanos on October 20, 2008, 02:43:54 AM
I like to think of it from Brandon's perspective: why, if it's the third book of the trilogy with many already established characters, would Brandon ever introduce one of the main characters and then later, somehow not have him actually be the main character? It's unnecessarily convoluted from a storytelling perspective.

Though... I was caught off-guard because of the facial hair, but there are too many things that point to him being Elend than him not being Elend. White cape, just like from MB2, same hair style from MB2, and most of all, he essentially completes the story arc from MB2 about him becoming king. He is the emperor now, and now he acts like it.

The improvement is extraordinary. Elend, I think, has always been my favorite character (series-wise, at least. Kelsier was the favorite for MB1), but now he is even better than I could have imagined. He's a powerful leader, the only thing that has really happened to him is that he's grown. The world is falling into chaos, and he is doing what he has to do to keep it alive. I like to think of it from the perspective of his last line in MB2, where he says, "We are going to survive." Obviously, he is doing it this way--without that pesky "ideals" business--to survive. Already, before we even get into his viewpoint, I can see what Elend's internal conflicts will be in the book: he is going to struggle with trying to keep his ideals (or restore them) in the face of unimaginable chaos.

This is Elend, I am positive of it. He's just stronger now.

Remember, though, that Statlin City is probably more like one of the Lord Ruler's storehouses than the hidden atium supply. Recall from the preview chapter in the second edition paperback of MB1 (the one from Spook's viewpoint) that Elend was going after cities that had these storehouses.

In fact, I believe I just figured out why Vin isn't with Elend: she is commanding the koloss army to conquer places with the storehouses. As to why Elend cannot control koloss, I do not have a sufficient answer for you.

The Hero of Ages, though... wow. Everything is just phenomenal.

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I am, unfortunately, the Hero of Ages.

My first impression, here, is that the Hero is no one we've known before, but an unknown. However, it could simply be here that it is Rashek writing believing himself to be the Hero.

Either way, it is purely phenomenal.

I think it's that one.
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on October 20, 2008, 02:57:49 AM
Maybe...
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Reaves on October 20, 2008, 03:39:49 AM
MWAHAHAHA!!!!!
 
Just wanted in on the action.

keep your evil laughs to yourself bud....after all, you're the one wearing the avatar....

And yeah, about the official stickied Spoilers thread, I wasn't sure if that was the proper place to gloat about our theories. And I didn't want to risk peeking in....but I'll absolutely make sure to head on over there as soon as I finish!
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on October 20, 2008, 03:52:14 AM
Yes. That's the one.
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Wielder on October 21, 2008, 09:29:53 PM
I don't remember who it was, but someone was dead set on Reen's voice not being Ruin, to the point of where they didn't even want it discussed.  I was pretty sure it was Ruin.  :)

I was discussing this with a friend.  He didn't believe me.  I just gave him the HoA on Sunday, so I can't wait until he gets to that part so I can say "hah, told ya."  He also refused to believe me when I said I thought the HoA was Sazed. 

Meh.
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Chaos on October 21, 2008, 10:26:00 PM
I was the one who refused to believe it was Ruin. I just didn't think that Ruin had power during the Lord Ruler's reign.
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Qarlin on October 22, 2008, 11:07:24 PM
I also was kind of against it. I just kept pointing out that we didn't know. Mostly, though, I was the one who thought that TLR touched Ruin and not Preservation.  :-\
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: darxbane on October 23, 2008, 02:56:43 PM
One thing I got right was that the ability to pierce copper clouds was due to an allomancy/hemalurgy combination.  As soon as I found out that Vin's earring was made of bronze I was certain.    I'm not sure if I was the first to bring it up.  I was also so close on the mist sickness thing.  I thought they were people who didn't realize they were allomancers who could burn the mists.  It never occurred to me that they were actually Snapping.  Uggh!
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: happyman on October 23, 2008, 07:35:46 PM
I would like to say that I was completely right about Sazed being the Hero of Ages, and that the hints that the Hero of Ages should be tall were both the original form of the prophecies and also completely true.  It was this that made me think of him as the HoA in the first book (during the post-WoA readthrough, of course).
Title: Re: Told you so....*spoilers*
Post by: Reaves on October 23, 2008, 10:26:25 PM
I kinda feel like I should've put it together. After all, if Sazed is the Hero and Sazed wrote the bumps, and Sanderson said that whoever wrote the bumps was nearly omniscient, then logically the Hero becomes nearly omniscient!! From there its a short leap to saying the Hero takes Preservation/Ruin's powers, the only godlike, nearly omniscient characters we know of.
Surprising, yet inevitable...