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Local Authors => Brandon Sanderson => Topic started by: Elariel on August 07, 2008, 09:28:35 PM
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Hey everybody. I've been rereading the books and I came up with a few musings that I don't think have been suggested yet (If they have I'm really sorry!)
For the identity of the Hero of Ages... how about a child of Vin and Elend's? Since allomancy is hereditary, their baby could be one of the most powerful mistborns ever. No, I don't think the book will extend over many years and turn all next gen, but I do think that such a baby would have great potential and be a potential target, causing all kinds of events and motivating many people (such as its parents) to act in ways that would, somehow, save the world. (Kind of like the movie Willow). Thoughts???
My biggest problem with this theory is the idea of Vin pregnant is both hilarious... and kind of unimaginable.
Also have we discussed who we think will die in HOA? Sanderson has proved he's not afraid to kill major characters. My bets are Sazed and Marsh. (Though if I'm right I will mourn them both.)
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I think the only logical thing to say first is WILLOW!!! Another great I thought lost in time.
Second I could see a child of the two being important, I mean the childs mother would be Vin possibly the best Mistborn alive and also the killer of TLR and unwilling patron of a religion, and its father would be king and also a mistborn. Its a safe assumtion that if all things work out and everyone survives to see this through that the child would be of some import. There inlies the issue. Like you say EUOL isnt affraid to off major people in the story and also in HoA i feel the story going beyond Luthandel. This leads me to think that all things that are probably going to influence the major story line will happen with the current crew plus of minus a few. Not that the things you suggest arent possible I just think that if we ever see anything to do with this idea it would end with like Vin pregnant and Elend dead or something of the sort.
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Too far away for the book, seeing as HoA takes place one year after then end of WoA. So, while a child of Vin and Elend's may have an impact on the future, I doubt we'll see it. Besides, I personally believe that one of the two will die, so that makes the having a child thing rather difficult.
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Too far away for the book, seeing as HoA takes place one year after then end of WoA. So, while a child of Vin and Elend's may have an impact on the future, I doubt we'll see it. Besides, I personally believe that one of the two will die, so that makes the having a child thing rather difficult.
That makes it seem plausible. They do get married in the second book, and one year is more than 9 months away.
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Yes... and a 3 month old baby is going to do what, exactly?
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Well put Andrew, I wholeheartedly agree. I too think one of the two will die. Also I doubt the book will end with an epilogue that jumps that far into the future. It would be kinda cool maybe to see a follow up novel in the future, but I think I would rather a follow up to Elantris first.
It may be possible but I find it un-likely. Sometime during the characters attempting to save the world Vin becomes pregnant and their child has importance. Come on I know we make a habit out of far flung ideas and the such but this is a little too much for me.
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Yes... and a 3 month old baby is going to do what, exactly?
Be kidnapped and held for ransom.
Be threatened with kidnapping or assassination.
Be sacrificed for an Inquisitor.
That's just devil's advocate, though. I really don't think a child is likely.
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I personally dont think a child will be included but Elariel makes a good point. Vin is an extremely powerful Mistborn and theoretically Elend is also very powerful. A child of theirs would be incredibly powerful. With that said i doubt Sanderson will stretch that far into the future.
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He could always include it in the Potteresque epilogue
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God no. For all we know he would come out later and say something like TLR was gay. Just to make waves. Not that the orientation had any effect on the story or the character just to be edgy
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He could always include it in the Potteresque epilogue
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that is actually the first thing i thought of when i read these posts :D
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God no. For all we know he would come out later and say something like TLR was gay. Just to make waves. Not that the orientation had any effect on the story or the character just to be edgy
I MUCH agree with Sanderson's blog about this, and I DON'T think you should criticize Rowling for a character being who he is.
Here is the article. (http://www.brandonsanderson.com/article/51/EUOLogy-Dumbledores-Homosexuality)
I would rather a follow up to Elantris first.
I would NOT want to see that. The book is an amazing epic as it stands. I at first wanted to know what happened next, but then I realized that by forcing a sequel it could take a lot away from the rhetoric of the book. However, a prequel, or publications that would go deeper into the religions would be kinda fun to read. Like, short e-books or something.
On the note of this thread. Kid = just no. I won't happen, it would be WAY out of no where and is just not Brandon's style. . . I don't think.
As far as someone dying, I don't think it will be Vin or Elend. . . but I do see Sazed dying.
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He could always include it in the Potteresque epilogue
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*Begins Crying*
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I was thinking more along SarahG's lines, with the baby being endangered or something (because of its great potential) and that setting off a chain reaction. Vin's extremely dangerous when she's feeling protective (attack on Cett's troops anyone?).
However I do realize the idea is farfetched. I love farfetched ideas. When I read someone theorizing that the kandra gave Kelsier the eleventh metal so humanity would be destroyed my first thought was... wow! what a cool idea!
As for Potteresque epilogue... disaster. Nothing would be more scaring than reading about little Vinlend spawn scampering off to the newly established Allomany school. Ugh.
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Ha ha!
Vinlend!?!?!?! LOVE IT!
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Ha ha!
Vinlend!?!?!?! LOVE IT!
Yeah... That pretty much made my day.
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Dear oh dear oh dear... That's like making them celebs.
But I don't think the child is going to happen in the third book. Totally could, though. Not going to rule it out completely.
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I MUCH agree with Sanderson's blog about this, and I DON'T think you should criticize Rowling for a character being who he is.
Oh dont get me wrong miyabi I agree. I was sure I posted along with this that the statement had nothing to do with the eventual outcome and didn't affect the way we saw the character therefore making the statement was pointless. Rowling did it for publicity her final book came out and the magic was gone so she figured a way to bring attention back to Harry Potter.
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See, you ARE criticizing her. She didn't do it for publicity. If you read her interviews and that particular one. She was ASKED if Dumbledore was ever with anyone and she said Grindlewald. In any case this is WAY off topic.
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See, you ARE criticizing her. She didn't do it for publicity. If you read her interviews and that particular one. She was ASKED if Dumbledore was ever with anyone and she said Grindlewald. In any case this is WAY off topic.
It very well may be off topic but no matter what she said in an interview she did it purely as a publicity stunt. The fact that Dumbledore was gay has nothing to do with the story in any way. Neither Greenmonsta nor I are criticizing her for Dumbledore's sexuality but we are merely pointing out that Rowling did it only to sell more books.
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I don't think she did it for publicity because the books didn't really need it and it may have had a negative affect on sales if anything. She merely answered a question about Dumbledore falling in love.
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I don't think she did it for publicity because the books didn't really need it and it may have had a negative affect on sales if anything. She merely answered a question about Dumbledore falling in love.
Just for reference sake here is the quote from Newsweek:
In front of a full house of hardcore Potter fans at Carnegie Hall in New York, Rowling, sitting on the stage on a red velvet and carved wood throne, read from her seventh and final book, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows," then took questions. One fan asked whether Albus Dumbledore, the head of the famed Hogwarts School of Wizardry and Witchcraft, had ever loved anyone. Rowling smiled. "Dumbledore is gay, actually," replied Rowling as the audience erupted in surprise. She added that, in her mind, Dumbledore had an unrequited love affair with Gellert Grindelwald, Voldemort's predecessor who appears in the seventh book. After several minutes of prolonged shouting and clapping from astonished fans, Rowling added. "I would have told you earlier if I knew it would make you so happy."
The fact that her books were already uber-popular does not prove that this was not a publicity stunt. Simply put "Greed knows no bounds" and it really doesn't have to be about money. She is practically queen of England due to her popularity over seas and someone with that much fame tends to only want more.....
As far as the negative effect goes heres another cliche for ya "There is no such thing as bad publicity". While yes some people/groups would be against buying her novels based solely on the fact that a character may be gay but the overall buzz her comments made, imo, would outweigh any negative effects.
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So when she was asked, at the very same event, whether Neville ever fell in love and she responded that he marries Hannah Abbott and lives above a the leaky cauldron, is that to appeal to drunks? I suppose when they also asked if Hagrid gets married and she responds that the giantess thought he was cute but he was just too unsophisticated, that she is making an appeal to fat single men who get turned down on the internet.
The shame that she would go to such lengths to sell books. :rolleyes:
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well she can hardly make every single character gay can she? lol jk
this is probably going a bit far so you'll have to forgive me, but how would feel if after all three novels were published you found out Kelsier was supposed to be gay? or bi i suppose i should say.
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well she can hardly make every single character gay can she? lol jk
this is probably going a bit far so you'll have to forgive me, but how would feel if after all three novels were published you found out Kelsier was supposed to be gay? or bi i suppose i should say.
Well, other than the fact that when I reread the books I might accidently give him a slight lisp, I wouldn't care either way. I don't read books for their sexual preference, I read them for their character development and actions. It's not like he was rubbing down Ham or anything.
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So when she was asked, at the very same event, whether Neville ever fell in love and she responded that he marries Hannah Abbott and lives above a the leaky cauldron, is that to appeal to drunks? I suppose when they also asked if Hagrid gets married and she responds that the giantess thought he was cute but he was just too unsophisticated, that she is making an appeal to fat single men who get turned down on the internet.
The shame that she would go to such lengths to sell books. :rolleyes:
Hmmm....I sense a little sarcasm there. You're completely missing my point though. It's not that she is trying to appeal to any one specific group. I believe her point was to cause a stir, a lot of public buzz, in order to sell more books or increase her already immense fame.
And yes I do view it as pretty shameful.
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well she can hardly make every single character gay can she? lol jk
this is probably going a bit far so you'll have to forgive me, but how would feel if after all three novels were published you found out Kelsier was supposed to be gay? or bi i suppose i should say.
Well, other than the fact that when I reread the books I might accidently give him a slight lisp, I wouldn't care either way. I don't read books for their sexual preference, I read them for their character development and actions. It's not like he was rubbing down Ham or anything.
Exactly!! The orientation of the character literally has no effect on the plot or character development, why make such a major change to the life, backstory, and history of the character when it is not foreshadowed or referenced anywhere in the book?
EDIT : unless of course you count the purple suit he wore in book six.
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Agreed with Madness and Vegas, I dont think the idea of any character being gay has an effect on me, in the end it comes down to the characters and what they do. I also feel that Rowling did it for the notariety and publicity no matter what her interview said. Who cares if Dumbldore was gay he was and is still one of the best characters I've read about.
Even if it was true that Dumbledore was gay why not have hints if your going to come out and say it anyway. I think she may have at one point viewed the possabilities of Dumbldore being gay but decided against it for some reason and left it out. Then after the books fate was sealed and all the books came out she decided to drop the bomb. If you ask me it all sounds kind cowardly. She waits until the statment has the least effects on sales (because everyone already bought her books) and then comes out with a statement attempting to come off as brave.
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I just want to make sure I have this straight. When she is asked about whether Hagrid or Neville find love (or any other multitude of questions), it's ok to answer with full disclosure, but when asked about Dumbledore she should keep quiet or simply answer 'yes'. Then if she is asked 'Who did he love' how should she respond so that it doesn't appear she is looking for even more attention because her 280 million isn't enough money?
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I just want to make sure I have this straight. When she is asked about whether Hagrid or Neville find love (or any other multitude of questions), it's ok to answer with full disclosure, but when asked about Dumbledore she should keep quiet or simply answer 'yes'. Then if she is asked 'Who did he love' how should she respond so that it doesn't appear she is looking for even more attention because her 280 million isn't enough money?
Full disclosure is just fine. I think I can speak for a couple of us here when I say that it is not that she disclosed any type of fact but that she did the exact opposite. What I'm saying is that I believe in the beginning Dumbledore was not gay. She simply fabricated that near the end to create a buzz.....
Additionally you keep bringing up how she has a boatload of money already and that she doesn't need more as proof that this is not possible. You really don't understand the concept of greed do you?
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lol yah there is no such thing as too rich. Look at it this way; Rowling is to the average american as the average american is to a dirt poor homeless kid in Africa. They look at us and say "you have so much you are so rich how could you want more?" We look at her and do the exact same thing.
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I can't stop laughing. That was one of the most dead on analogies I’ve ever heard and also hilarious.
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She has contributed money and handwritten autographed works to a bunch of charities, so I'm not going to be the one to call her greedy. She said she told Steve Kloves about Dumbledore being gay, so until he comes out and dispells this 'lie' I will choose to believe it. For me it's simple; I will take her at her words until I see proof otherwise; she has given me no cause to doubt her and I am not one to fall for conspiracy theories because they sound neat.
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I would like to add one more thing before I get on my flight. I don't think these are the actions of someone that would 'out' a character just to make themselves money. With that, I will derail the OP's topic no more.
In 2000, Rowling established the Volant Charitable Trust, which uses its annual budget of £5.1 million to combat poverty and social inequality. The fund also gives to organizations that aid children, one parent families, and multiple sclerosis research. Rowling said, "I think you have a moral responsibility when you've been given far more than you need, to do wise things with it and give intelligently."
Rowling, once a single parent herself, is now president of the charity One Parent Families, having already become their first Ambassador in 2000. Rowling collaborated with Sarah Brown, wife of British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, to write a book of children's stories to aid One Parent Families.
In 2001, the UK anti-poverty fundraiser Comic Relief asked three bestselling British authors – cookery writer and TV presenter Delia Smith, Bridget Jones creator Helen Fielding, and Rowling – to submit booklets related to their most famous works for publication. Rowling's two booklets, Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them and Quidditch Through the Ages, are ostensibly facsimiles of books found in the Hogwarts library. Since going on sale in March, 2001, the books have raised £15.7 million ($30 million) for the fund. The £10.8 million ($20 million) they have raised outside the UK have been channeled into a newly created International Fund for Children and Young People in Crisis.
In 2005, to improve the lot of vulnerable children in eastern Europe, Rowling and MEP Emma Nicholson founded the Children's High Level Group. In January 2006, Rowling went to Bucharest to highlight the use of caged beds in children's mental institutions. To further support the CHLG, Rowling auctioned one of seven handwritten and illustrated copies of The Tales of Beedle the Bard, a series of fairy tales referred to in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. The book was purchased for £1.95 million by on-line bookseller Amazon.com on 13 December 2007, becoming the most expensive modern book ever sold at auction. Rowling commented "This will mean so much to children in desperate need of help. It means Christmas has come early to me." Rowling will give away the remaining six copies to those who have a close connection with the Harry Potter books. In 2008, Rowling agreed to publish the book with the proceeds going to the Children's High Level Group.
In May 2008, bookseller Waterstones asked Rowling and 12 other writers (Sebastian Faulks, Doris Lessing, Lisa Appignanesi, Margaret Atwood, Lauren Child, Richard Ford, Neil Gaiman, Nick Hornby, Michael Rosen, Axel Scheffler, Tom Stoppard and Irvine Welsh) to compose a short piece of their own choosing on a single A5 card, which would then be sold at auction in aid of the charities Dyslexia Action and English PEN. Rowling's contribution was an 800-word Harry Potter prequel that concerns Harry's father, James Potter and godfather, Sirius Black, and takes place three years before Harry was born. Rowling claims that she does not intend to return to Harry Potter for at least ten years. The cards will be collected together and sold for charity in book form in August 2008.
Rowling has contributed money and support for research and treatment of multiple sclerosis, from which her mother died in 1990. In 2006, Rowling contributed a substantial sum toward the creation of a new Centre for Regenerative Medicine at Edinburgh University. On 1 August and 2 August 2006 she read alongside Stephen King and John Irving at Radio City Music Hall in New York City. Profits from the event were donated to the Haven Foundation, a charity that aids artists and performers left uninsurable and unable to work, and the medical NGO Médecins Sans Frontières. In May 2007, Rowling gave $495,000 to a reward fund of over $4.5 million for the safe return of a young British girl, Madeleine McCann, who disappeared in Portugal. Rowling, along with Nelson Mandela, Al Gore, and Alan Greenspan, wrote an introduction to a collection of Gordon Brown's speeches, the proceeds of which are donated to the Jennifer Brown Research Laboratory.
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In 2000, Rowling established the Volant Charitable Trust, which uses its annual budget of £5.1 million to combat poverty and social inequality. The fund also gives to organizations that aid children, one parent families...
It always goes back to the poor homeless children in Africa doesn't it...no jk and i agree we have totally destroyed the OP's thread. I would continue this conversation but i resist.
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Actually, this has nothing to do with the OP. The Rowling tangent started a few posts later. This topic is supposed to be about the plausibility of Elend and Vin having a child who will turn out to be the HOA. I don't think it fits timewise, but that's just my opinion.
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Keep to the subject of Elend and Vin having a child, please. This is not the thread for Rowling-bashing.
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The OP may have been spot on. Judging by MB3 Chapter 1, Elend is starting to let himself go and Vin isn't around; as an allomancer she was used to being barefoot, soooo....
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The OP may have been spot on. Judging by MB3 Chapter 1, Elend is starting to let himself go and Vin isn't around; as an allomancer she was used to being barefoot, soooo....
OP?
Wait. . . what does her being barefoot and chapter 1 have in common? That makes NO sense.
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OP means original poster.
I think Andrew is referring to the term "barefoot and pregnant," which may explain why Vin isn't in chapter one.
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OP means original poster.
I think Andrew is referring to the term "barefoot and pregnant," which may explain why Vin isn't in chapter one.
Oh. Well I don't think that the set up for her being pregnant just for the sake of that one phrase would be set up since book one. That just seems too. . . .overdone.
I still don't think she is pregnant or had a kid. I think she is just busy with other things in the world and they are spreading their power around. Also don't think this is the real Elend.
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I'll make sure to include smiley faces etc. in the future to make sure that posts aren't taken too seriously when they are obviously jokes.
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Wow, this argument has gotten fairly intense.
I think it's rather likely that Vin and Elend have had or are going to have a child, after all, there's no form of birth control that we know of, and it would certainly explain Vin's absense. It also lead me to believe she's pregnant (if not she could leave the child with someone she trusts), or is just uber paranoid about leaving it, that could also cause Elend to toughen up a bit.
As for what could a three month old child do, how old was Jesus when he began to change the world :)
So ya, I think a child is possible, but the only thing that makes me think no, is it doesn't seem like something Brandon would do, but who knows, he did just have a baby of his own, although he completed this story before that so who knows.
EDIT: And I don't think that the child is the hero, that just doesn't seem likely to me, especially after chapter 1's bump. And now I'm thinking maybe there is a child, or one on the way, it seems like some of the twist brandon would just love, and think of the character development, Vin goes from untrusting abandoned child to soon-to-be mother, the tensions would be crazy!
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Frankly, Vin being pregnant would just annoy me more than anything else. And who says there's no form of birth control? Just because we haven't seen it doesn't mean there isn't one.
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I agree with Andrew on this one. It would just be bothersome and irritating to read if she was pregnant.
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It just wouldn't seem to fit with the times, and I think it would have been mentioned, why wouldn't a nobleman just have his favorite skaa mistresses use it so he wouldn't have to kill her? PErhaps the method is just too expensive. It just seem like an awful lot of trouble, when they just kill the mistresses anyways, and noblemen have trouble having children in the first place, meaning birth control is unlikely.
Then again the low fertility rate of nobleman does decrease the likelihood of Vin getting pregnant since she's 1/2 and 1/2, and Elend's noble. Depends whether or not her Skaa side is stronger I suppose.
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Vin isn't pregnant for the same reason that we know the person in chapter one is indeed Elend (not like some weird doppelganger): because it wouldn't work narratively. Book Three isn't about parenthood, it's about fighting Ruin and finishing off the trilogy.
At least... it SHOULDN'T be about parenthood...
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Maybe EUOL is looking to become a new Doctor Spock
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Just wait for book four.
I'm kidding. Really. (Or am I?)
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If Brandon tries to pull an Ian Irvine (continued in the next quartet), or a Christopher Paolini (I realized my story is crappy, so I'm gonna have to make some huge modifications and add another book), I'd probably cry. Although the likely hood of him doing either of those things are probably like 1/99999999999999999999, so I don't think I have much to worry about (and yes I just held down the 9 button for a randomly big number).
I'm not saying a Vin pregnancy is likely to happen, what I'm trying to say is it would bring up some interesting character development.
Vin is stuck at home because of her condition, Elend is Mistborn now, she starts to feel uneeded, and then she has to deal with the fact that up until recently she has never had a real family and now she is expected to start one of her own, that's got to bring up some insecurities.
But who knows if it will actually happen, maybe it won't until near the end, so we still get some of this development and less of the Vin is on Maternity leave from her Mistborn awesomeness... sorry.
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The trilogy's story is complete in book 3. Who's to say whether or not Brandon might want to go back later and tell a new story in the same world though?
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Then it would be a different story, not the same one. So different Trilogy/series/book.
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I wouldn't be opposed to another story in the mistborn world, even if it's a prequel. But Brandon seems to like moving on to different things all the time, why stick around in this world, when I'm sure he has many other's to fill with stories :) (At least I hope he does, when I'm done with Mistborn, and get around to warbreaker, I want more!)
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Unquestionably the best example of completing one story and then starting more out of the same realm and framework is Feist's. What started with Magician: The Apprentice, and has now continued through more than 20 books stands alone in its scope and depth. Pug is the first and only remaining major character from the earliest parts of the story, but each series within has its own heros and villains. Early on the larger than life characters were Duke Borric and his family in Crydee, then on to Prince Arutha, his sons, Jimmy the Hand, and many others. The most remarkable thing about it all is that each story has its own power apart from the larger chronology, but each adds to the total if you read them all.
I think that the world in which Mistborn is set could easily lead to a similar, if smaller, set of continuing stories for Brandon, if he wishes. Certainly even if the Deepness is vanquished and Ruin brought to, well, ruin, there are always new enemies to face, and new heroes to rise up to the task.
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Ian Irvine also does the multiple Quartets in the same world (or set of three, for those of you who have read them), but in my opinion they sort of deteriorate. The first ones were by far the best, and he keeps adding new concepts that characters weren't even aware of in previous books.
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Yes, I've read other authors where such continuations "deteriorate". I believe Brandon's sense of the realm, and his own purview of the larger story, to be stronger than would allow such, if he so chose. But it is a risky proposition. Besides, he probably has a dozen half-formed stories in completely different themes running around in his mind waiting their turn to be churned out.
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Yes, I do think Brandon can do it, but you're right as well in saying that he has other stories on the go, then there's that pesky WOT thing that's keeping him from writing his own books ;).
So I think from what we've written it's safe to assume that although there is possibility of there being a child or pregnancy, I doubt the child is most likely not (meaning it's not) the hero of ages. Especially after reading those excerpts, I don't think a baby can write thank-you very much, a least not big words like unfortunately.
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If Brandon tries to pull an Ian Irvine (continued in the next quartet), or a Christopher Paolini (I realized my story is crappy, so I'm gonna have to make some huge modifications and add another book), I'd probably cry.
LOL, that cracked me up. ;D
But who knows if it will actually happen, maybe it won't until near the end, so we still get some of this development and less of the Vin is on Maternity leave from her Mistborn awesomeness... sorry.
I hope Vin isn't on maternity leave either... I'm so looking forward to seeing Elend and Vin pull off a majorly awesome Mistborn fight together. I also really wanted to see Vin teaching Elend, but it looks like from chapter one that Brandon moved the story past that point already... bummer.
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Brandon does have a plan for how he might continue the Mistborn series one day. When he mentioned it to me, it made me really, really excited. It's an extremely ambitious plan.
I don't think he'll get to it for several years yet, though, not until he's finished a bunch of Way of Kings books first.
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NICE! Well, I'll take your word for it. Maybe in several years time, I'll know Brandon Personally, and become an Alpha Reader. Guess it's time to move to Utah! ;)
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I keep thinking it would be kinda fun to know all this stuff beforehand and get to be all cryptic like Ookla.
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i think that would be fun too but there are some downsides. You can't just get on the forums and yell VIN DIES! The temptation for spoilers must be great indeed. Also you read the book from the early stages, with all its inconsistencies, typos, and flaws.
I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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Back on topic, has anyone looked closely at the Hero of Ages cover and seen a baby bump?
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Hmm, just looked - nope, no baby bump that I could discern. Maybe she already had the kid and lost her baby weight. Or maybe the cover shows Elend cross-dressing.
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Or maybe the cover shows Elend cross-dressing.
That's definitely it.
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Somehow the thought of Elend Cross-dressing is disturbing to me.
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Is Ookla saying there should be a bump but there isn't, or is he trying to show us what idiots we are being?
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I'd guess the latter.
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Me as well, but it's always fun to play the devil's advocate.
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Me as well, but it's always fun to play the devil's advocate.
Ha ha. You and me both! I love coming up with crap out of nowhere.
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Oh I assure you, that my 'crap,' as you so put it, does NOT come out of nowhere. ;)
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I was referring to the crap I come up with. My theories are like. . . no one ever likes them, they all just say, 'No, I disagree,' and move on. ha ha.
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Actually, I suspect there is some type of reasonably effective birth control. After all, Kelsier and Mare were able to *choose* not to have children for...what, 12 or 13 years?
(First post! =D)
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There are ways besides birth control to prevent having children. Perhaps Mare couldn't, or some other condition we don't know about. (Maybe Kelsier didn't want to raise a chlid until he was done robbing everyone blind, and they just weren't sexually active.)
And Miyabi and Comatose, I think that without all of those ideas you two think up this board would be a lot less active. People may disagree with most of your theories, but we usually see parts of them we like, and add all of our theories together to come to a consensus. Then someone will question some aspect of it, and we'll keep thinking, which is the important part.
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Then Ook swoops down and gets us all riled up! ha ha!
I can't wait for another chapter! Better yet, OCTOBER!
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There are ways besides birth control to prevent having children. Perhaps Mare couldn't, or some other condition we don't know about. (Maybe Kelsier didn't want to raise a chlid until he was done robbing everyone blind, and they just weren't sexually active.)
And Miyabi and Comatose, I think that without all of those ideas you two think up this board would be a lot less active. People may disagree with most of your theories, but we usually see parts of them we like, and add all of our theories together to come to a consensus. Then someone will question some aspect of it, and we'll keep thinking, which is the important part.
What? People disagree with my theories? I thought that was just Andrew ;).
It wasn't always like this you know, a ways back, I was coming up with stuff, I'm the one who found the whole piercings of the hero reference and such. I suppose I've just run out of valid things to say, and have moved on to the semi-valid. Ah well, it's more fun that way. But what are we going to theorize about after the book is out, and we're done finding out what Ookla's been thinking all this time?
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Then we can start theorizing on Warbreaker 2. I'm surprised it hasn't started yet. Then after the 'Kings' books start coming out we'll theorize about those too. ha ha.
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I might be left out then, I'm trying very hard to resist temptation and wait until warbreaker is out, so the first time I read it it's finished, and I don't want to spoil it for myself. But who knows, after mistborn, I might cave.
Didn't brandon write a book called dragon steel? When does that one come out?
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The Liar of Partinel, which will be the first book of the Dragonsteel series (but possibly as a backdoor pilot), had some things that didn't come out right in the first draft, so it will need some major revisions. Brandon hasn't worked on it at all since finishing that first draft, and he probably won't get to it for a while. He wants Way of Kings to be his next big series after A Memory of Light (or, well, Way of Kings is the first book; the series name used to be Oathshards but I don't know if that's changed in the last four years), so the first book of that will come out before the first Dragonsteel book does. (He may do Nightblood relatively soon, though?)
Brandon will also be sprinkling in some more YA books at the same time, such as Scribbler and Dark One and three other books he mentioned to me at lunch in May. There is no end to the books tumbling around in his head.
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So many books to look forward to and yet so much time til any of them come out.
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Somehow the thought of Elend Cross-dressing is disturbing to me.
Especially since in Chapter One he has a beard.
And man, I definitely look forward to all future Brandon books :D.