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Departments => Movies and TV => Topic started by: Mad Dr Jeffe on April 06, 2008, 01:57:17 AM
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Well the season started off with a huge bang from the cliffhanger of last season. First of all we have 4 crewmembers who are actually Cylons positioned to strike at the heart of the fleet. Col. Tigh, Chief Tyrol, Anders and Tory Foster. In addition Starbuck isn't dead and isn't a hallucination in Lee Adama's head. The Episode has a pretty awesome battle scene that brings us into the credits, and a much much lower number of surviving human count. now only 39,698.
Everyone thinks Kara Thrace (Starbuck) is a Cylon, when she's clearly just crazy and 2 months late to the party in a brand new sparkly viper. ... Cough red herring cough... Plus she pulls a gun on Pres. Rosyln (which is Cylony) but there's no way she's the final model. Mostly because its just the first episode back from the long break. Something tells me that this season is going to get very dark as evidenced by Baltar when he accidentally starts a cult and gets some cult leader nookie. Oh and he gets his throat cut, but not enough to die. Also he miracles a sick boy back to life.
Starbuck is the star of this episode, and I have to say she's super whiny right now... "Ohhh I found Earth, why doesn't annnnnnyone believe me?" What I don't get is how she cant realise that it looks super weird when your ship says you've only been gone six hours and you've actually been gone 2 months... um after being blown up with verifiable witnesses and film footage of the event. Not to mention you end up several FTL jumps away from where you got blown up in the first place.
The best subplot going is the 4 cylons, who are all struggling with the knowledge that even though they are toasters... they're also human, or at least associate themselves as such. Keep in mind that they've been Cylons from the beginning and that makes some of their actions really really interesting. Take Anders... He's a former resistance leader who used to blow cylons up... or Tigh, I mean they pried out his freaking eye! Foster was the one who found loyal humans for the hybrid baby!... Oh yeah and Chief has a kid with Cally... so he's got a hybrid too! Wow. Im really liking the season so far.
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Yes, season 4 is starting well. I think they covered almost everything that was in the season previews in the first 10 minutes or so. So there's a whole lot left to see still.
The opening also had the most special effects that we've seen in a while. So I supsect the coming episodes are going to be a lot more lower budget. That's okay since the writers do a great job without the special effects.
I'm waiting for when Starbuck learns that Sam is a Cylon. I wonder if she really is going to put a bullet in his head at that point. Yes, she was king of whiny, but she's always been a little whiny. Her character has never seemed to handle things not going her way.
I can't wait to find out who is the final cylon. I don't think it's Starbuck. I've also ruled out Roselin (cause why would a Cylon get cancer?), Callie, Helo, and the Adamas. But there are so many other possibilities. I haven't decided if it will be more satisfying for it to be a major character (come on Baltar) or a minor character (a resurrected Admiral Kain maybe?). The only let down would be if it were a character we've never met before.
After 3 season the writers are still keeping me enthralled.
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What if it was Doc Cottle? That might mean that Baltars Cylon test wasn't bunk. How awesome might that be? Or even "awesomer" Tom Zarek (Richard Hatch... the original Apollo).
Yeah the last Cylon plotline will keep me guessing for a bit.
Also, I think Starbuck would kill Sam, I mean she just beat the heck out of him cause he wouldnt tell her where the Rosyln was, so I mean yeah... Hey honey Im a Cylon... "Bang"
Also what if the four werent really Cylons, but were just somehow manipulated by them. Heck maybe they experimented on Tigh and the others during their occupation on New Caprica... so that'd be a huge bait and switch.
Or maybe there are only Cylons, replaying the final colonial wars over and over again. I mean this did all happen before. Or at least thats a huge Galactica theme.
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Actually, Zarek is who I think it is as well. I've ruled out Starbuck, because it's too obvious...and because even the cylons think she is bad mojo (from the Razor miniseries). The Adamas and the president are out, cause they would have activated them long ago I think. Baltar wants to be one so bad, that it cant be him. So I'm left with Zarek, or someone that has already died, or someone new. They left quite a bit open that intrigues me. Lee's new position, Tygh hearing the music still, etc. But what I really want to know is who is "flipping the switch" on these cylons? The original 7 dont know who the "Five" are (except Xena, but she's..uhh..afk...for lack of a better term). Is the last cylon flipping the switches? Or is this mysterious "Cylon God" the one doing it? I think we are gonna find out that Starbuck is a deity. Craziness. That was a great first episode. Baltar's story was great.
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keep in mind that the nebula seems to be key. The closer everyone gets to it the crazier everyone but Starbuck becomes (she only gets crazier the farther from the nebula she gets). Anyone notice that both Starbuck and Rosyln seem to be getting jump headaches the further they get from the nebula too?
So maybe the four didn't have their switch flipped by anyone. Maybe they were programmed to activate when they got to a particular place or situation. In this case, the route to earth.
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Zarek would be a good choice to be the last Cylon, but I'm kind of hoping it isn't him. I actually think he's too obvious of a choice. He's sown enough rebellion and anarchy among the fleet that it just seems like he'd be an obvious choice to be a Cylon.
I hadn't noticed the jump headache connection between Roslyn and Starbuck. That's rather cool though.
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and thats the problem beyond introducing a new character they dont have a lot of choices. Apparently in the comic there were psylon copies of Zarek though, according to Io9. So, maybe they already dropped the ball.
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I'm kind of expecting that finding out who is the final cylon model will be more of a revelation and less of a surprise (if that makes sense). I just hoping it's a satisfying revelation.
Also, the seems to be a lot more male cylon models than female cylon models. Why is this?
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i think the reason for all the female cylons is obvious (at least in the beginning). they are hawt. 'nuff said. would anyone really care about the cylon 'models' (heh) if they were terribly ugly?
actually, of the 11 models introduced, only 4 are female. but they get a lot more screen time (see hawtness factor above).
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Also, the seems to be a lot more male cylon models than female cylon models. Why is this?
Its a fair question, and possibly a clue to the origins of the Cylons themself. Now that I think about it the answer may lie in the Caprica mini-series coming up about the creation of the Cylons...
Originally, according to E! Online's Kristin Dos Santos, Ron Moore didn't intend to show the forebears of any Galactica characters in this spin-off. But he's apparently changed his mind — which could have something to do with the Sci Fi Channel's decision to greenlight the backdoor pilot — and now we'll see Bill Adama's father, Joseph. As you may have heard, Caprica is the story of attorney Joseph Adama and his relationship with the Graystone family.
Daniel Graystone is a computer genius, married to the unfaithful Amanda, a gifted surgeon. Their daughter, Zoe, dies in a suicide bombing by religious fanatics, including Zoe's boyfriend. Also killed in that bombing: Joseph Adama's wife and daughter.
Before Zoe dies, she installs the "rudimentary elements" of her personality and DNA into a computer, creating a digital twin called Zoe-A. After Zoe dies, her father uses that materials, along with soem stolen technology to create a robot version called Zoe-R. This is the "Cylonic Eve."
So maybe the first model of human cylon is Zoe and is a female model we've seen before.
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I totally misread 42's post. I thought you said there seemed to be more female Cylons than male. Teaches me not to wear my glasses.
That info about the prequel series sounds interesting. I also read that it's gonna be more of a "soap-opera" drama. no epic space battles...sigh.
Now, if you read into that info, the adamas apparently had a hand in the creation of the cylons. interesting prospect. My theory: Starbuck is Zoe. Loeban (spelling?) was the boyfriend. Giddyup. Explains the odd relationship those 2 have, makes flashbacks/pre-memories work. Explains why starbuck is back from the grave - they didn't have genetic material to make a real cylon of her till they took the...whatever from her on caprica. Yes, i realize there hole galore in my theory.
the wilder side: Joesph Adama is the last Cylon. And all the adama's are hybrids. Weeeeee!
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the one thing we do know actually is that Starbuck is unequivocally not a Cylon. Everyone involved with BSG who's been interviewed has come out and point blank said... no its someone else.
Now they could lie, but that'd be a total gyp. Better to just say "Im not going to spoil it."
I do however think that the last Cylon will be a woman, and a woman of gravitas and authority.
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Not Roselin!!!
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Say goodbye to Cally. According to TV Guide
Cally learns the truth about Tyrol.
in next weeks episode.
I liked her too.
Of course she could kill him.
So, theres that.
But someone will die beacuse TV guide has this to say about the next week.
Baltar's beliefs create a controversy for those faithful to the 12 Lords of Kobol, and a crew member's demise casts a pall on the Colonials.
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Aargh! Cylon society is being torn apart.
I'm also worried that Cally will die in the next episode. No more corn muffin goodness for Galactica.
Also, somehow Baltar has left Caprica Six's head and entered his own head which is far more disturbing than anything else they could of done.
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Baltar ROCKS! He's so crazy that who knows whats in his head. The Cylon crisis is sweet too. But the real star of the show was Starbuck who was utterly insane and awesome. BSG is all about the crazy this season.
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I'm actually surprised more people haven't gone crazy on the show. Considering the situation these characters are in, most people would have lost their minds from the stress a long time ago. Seriously, it's now been years that these characters have been daily struggling against dying from many, many sources.
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I think that no matter what happens to the colonials they'll become extinct anyway. I mean humanity is down to less than 400,000 people. How many of them can even breed, how long can the food last, how long can they keep building fighters. The Cylons stated that there are millions of humanoid cylons there aren't any stats on centurions and raiders, but it has to be huge. So humanity is doomed even if it wins.
sad. but awesome.
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The current population count of humanity is at 39,676. The human race isn't going to survive too long with those numbers. Season 1 started with 49,998. There was drop of over 6,000 in season 3. They could maybe recoup from that if humanity found a safe place to live and started having lots of children without a lot of genetic problems. They may have to resort to some genetic engineering.
Yup, humanity is doomed.
Mostly, I just see that there needs to be a lot more unity among the survivors to actually rebuild society. There is far too much insanity and rebellion (often Cylon assisted) going on for that to happen.
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yeah, i end up watching these episodes late because the Sci-Fi channel would cost us an extra $30 a month to get. So, i just watched Ep2. I find that this is becoming the Baltar Show..and im ok with that. This last episode was more of a "new beginnings" episode. Kara whines some more, then gets her way like usual. its the same plot-line for her as before except now Adama is sending her "in secret" rather than the moron president. Baltar seeing himself was freaking awesome.
every interview i've read says that it gets really grim from now on. from what i gather, people are gonna drop like flies. I also wonder if there are any tells in that "Last Supper" poster they did.
I think the Cylon Civil War is great.
As far as the civilization being doomed, who says they wont find more people on earth? no one knows for certain what is in store for them on earth. Since this "has all happened before," it stands to reason that this will just complete a cycle, and they will find earth and start anew. Though, i have a feeling it will be a tad grimmer at the end.
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ahhhh but what if they find an earth full of pre-Cylons, and the humans were the ones driven off into space before, only to return in desperation after they created their own cylons.
My head is spinning.
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We all know that when they get to Earth it will be populated with sentient apes who use humans as slaves. Duh!
But right now I'm so sad that Cally died. Saw it coming, but it was still hard to watch.
Also, the civil war heating up between the cylons is crazy. The 1s are evil. Though I'm wondering if they just wiped out a bunch of the 6s, 8s and 2s.
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Callys death was terrible. Tragic, pointless and horrible and it hammers home that the final 5 really aren't human. Also Foster is out of control and she has a hybrid. Starbuck is tying up a lot of good soldiers on her goosechase Gaida, Diana, Hero, Athena... and Anders!!
This episode resonated with me a lot and left me very sad.
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once again, no Sci-Fi channel, saw the episode late.
I was actually kinda left feeling flat after this episode. It felt like some of the middles episodes in S3. The segment with Kara was dumb. They put a half-dozen of the galactica's most important people on a ship with a person (Kara) who they aren't even really sure is a cylon or not. Cally dieing was bound to happen. In all, the whole episode felt disjointed/jarring - but not in a good way like the last episode of S3.
So yeah, pretty weak in my opinion.
Though, the civil war is cool so far. Though that also felt...jumpy.
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hmmm what if the centurions and raiders turn on the human cylons and they need the protection of the humans... that'd be an interesting twist.
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So what was up with everyone seeing imaginary Head Six holding up Baltar without seeing Six? So Baltar is not halucinating Head Six, just no one else can see her?
So many questions.
And next week looks like Mutany on the Bounty, but in space.
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too sick to analyse now. :(
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sooooo, i fear the latest Kara arc is gonna end up like all the others. No one believes her, she goes emo, she gets proven right, she goes emo anyway. Rinse and repeat.
Other than that, and killing off marine-captain-lady-who-i-dont-buy-for-a-moment, nothing really happened.
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I think stuff is happening, at least on a building-up level. What happened in this last episode couldn't have happened if it weren't for the previous episode.
Also, maybe Kara is a cylon. I still think she isn't but maybe the writers are just preparing viewers to accept that she is. It's possible the writers don't intend for the final cylon to be a surprise.
Anyways, there was some great acting in this last episode. I knew that one officer was going to die once she said she was going to the base ship. I liked the Roselin in the hospital scenes and the theological discussion was well done for something that could have easily gone horribly wrong, but it works for the show.
Sadly, my roommate insisted on watching this episode with me. He hasn't watched the last 2 seasons and is a rather vocal person. He kept freaking out at all the stuff going which was just annoying. Yes, in most episodes of Battlestar Galatica someone is pointing a gun at someone else about every 5-10 minutes.
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Yeah... things happened. Last weeks episode led into the best and most tense episode of the year, one where the Humans and Cylons team up, Baltar starts showing up in Rosylns dreams, and humans have a shot at taking out the resurrection ship. Also Gaida is now christened stumpy mcstumperson.
WOW!
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The hybrid jumping the baseship was a great ending. I can't wait for the political fallout of both Roselin and Baltar missing.
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awesome...so we have to wait until 2009 for the 2nd half of the final season.
http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Galactica-Series-Finale/800041381
WTF.
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Waiting till 2009 won't be pleasant.
Still, at least they've found Earth. An apocolyptic Earth, but it is Earth none the less. So not everything has to wrapped up in the last few episodes.