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Title: Poll Time!
Post by: Survivors Apostale on February 13, 2008, 02:54:44 AM
Poll Time, since we don't have any actual poll postings we'll have to do this the old fashion way. What would be your type of misting (i.e. lurcher, soother, rioter, coinshot, seeker, cloaker, tineye, and no mistborn)?

I would have to go with a Coinshot or atium burner (Seerer?).
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Phaz on February 13, 2008, 05:40:47 AM
No option for thug?
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Shrain on February 13, 2008, 05:51:25 AM
Cloaker should be Smoker.... And Rioter is missing the "r" on the end.
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: StrykerJ on February 13, 2008, 12:39:10 PM
Soother seems like the coolest option, but that may just be because the most interesting misting we've seen in the series happened to be a soother.  :)
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Comfortable Madness on February 13, 2008, 03:42:09 PM
At first I thought maybe a lurcher or coinshot because it's always been a fantasy of mine to have telekinetic powers and those two would be the closest. Although, in the end I have to go with being a thug. Their ability to heal rapidly and their outright resistance to damage is just to much to pass up.
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Nessa on February 13, 2008, 04:39:16 PM
Soother. As a mother, it would sure come in handy with my kids....
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: White on February 13, 2008, 05:05:08 PM
Seeker. I don't know if this comes from the same pleasure of smooshing sand castles but it would be soooooo cool to spy on people and work out who was using allomancy. I mean, maybe I'm evil or whatever, but I guess I'm also physically lazy becasue it's the type of job you can do while sipping latte's. (and you could probably always figure out who was trying to use theirs to cheat at cards - I'm sure there are ways....)

Second choice would be tineye for similar reasons and for greater convenience of being able to find things I'm looking for better.

Plus with both of those options you would, if in a mistings group, be in a position of spying and commanding thugs and whatnot to run about at one's one behest. (Or so I so ardently hope - that, and that any underlings would be cute  :-* . I mean, wouldn't want to be a tin-eye if it just gave me a whole lot better view of UG-Leeee.)  ;)



[edit: oops, I typed "underlings" as "undelings" not my most shining moment, there's probably some other typos in there but hopefully none that will score a mcoking.]
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: VegasDev on February 13, 2008, 05:37:33 PM
I would have to be a thug. It is the one metal that gives you the most benefits. It's like carrying a sword that was +10 to Dexterity, Agility, Stamina and Speed, with Health regeneration in addition. The ONLY thing that could make this sword better is if it had charges of Mordenkainen's Faithful Watchdog.

When I can have all this, why would I want to exchange it for one with only +10 to Charisma or Intelligence?
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: White on February 13, 2008, 05:44:34 PM
I would have to be a thug. It is the one metal that gives you the most benefits. It's like carrying a sword that was +10 to Dexterity, Agility, Stamina and Speed, with Health regeneration in addition. The ONLY thing that could make this sword better is if it had charges of Mordenkainen's Faithful Watchdog.

When I can have all this, why would I want to exchange it for one with only +10 to Charisma or Intelligence?

but.. but... the latte's!  :'( Clearly you're forgetting how good coffee is and how much more of it you could drink without spilling if you had a less physically exerting ability.  :o

Plus, remember, you could always falsely accuse people of being mistings and have them (uh... burned as witches?) if you didn't like them of if they had; say, somewhat irked you in the spilling of the coffee.  :D

I mean, if you were the only seeker round you could slip a few past people perhaps.
You know, have the occasional, wonderous "HE DID IT~!~!~!" moments.
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: laddr on February 13, 2008, 07:50:18 PM
This is a tough one, but I agree that it is a tossup between Soother/Rioter and thug. Thug is best if you want to go around flaunting your power, etc. But Soother is best in everyday applications. In many regards I think you can use Soother in just about every encounter every day therefore I think that is the better overall power...
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Phaz on February 13, 2008, 09:03:27 PM
If I choose what I wanted to be, I'd have to agree that Thug has the most benefits.

However, since those in the series seem to be a misting that in some way enhances what traits they already have (Or visa versa, guess it could be a chicken/egg thing) if I had to choose that way, I think a rioter or tineye would fit.
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Pygmalion on February 13, 2008, 09:06:56 PM
I'd definitely be a Tineye. Enhanced senses... way cool. I agree that being a Thug probably has the most benefits, but only if you get in fights a lot.  ;D
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Azhev on February 13, 2008, 09:12:46 PM
So no one wants to be a smoker or rioter, huh?  Poor, misunderstood mistings.

I think being a Seeker would be cool, knowing who was burning or not, what they were burning, etc.  I like that idea!
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Craysh on February 13, 2008, 09:37:51 PM
So no one wants to be a smoker or rioter, huh?  Poor, misunderstood mistings.

I think being a Seeker would be cool, knowing who was burning or not, what they were burning, etc.  I like that idea!
I'd agree except a smoker could kill your abilities unless you were exceptionally strong, or your target was stupid enough to work without a smoker.
I chose thug because while I'd rather be a coinshot, I probably fit the thug lifestyle more :p
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Survivors Apostale on February 13, 2008, 10:07:27 PM
I knew cloaker wasn't right, but I was to lazy to go and look in my book. If where going with one of the eight basic metals then I'd have to go with coinshot, not only for the cool artilery effect, but in an emergancy I think I could get out of a situation pretty fast. Besides, Mistborn usually only use steel to fly around anyways, just burning iron when they have to redirect, and pewter if they mess up. If you only had the abiility to burn steel then you would learn quiet fast how to be good with just it. If anything, your like a portable elevater. Also if where going off of physical attributes, then I would still have to say Coinshot, for the same reason I would say tineye. I'm not a natural brawler, and perfer the entracit, and brain teasing trajectories of the coinshot to the brute force of a pewterarm.

No one wanted to go outside the realm of the eight basic metals? If you did what could/ would you choose? I know it's not cannon, but I'm sure we will have a few gold and atium mistings before the end.

And of Course if I could choose beyond the eight basics I would choose atium, and then learn how to be a really good knife fighter  ;D.
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: achren99 on February 13, 2008, 10:51:45 PM
Most of them would be awesome, but in the end...I decided strength is the way to go.  I'm surprised that I chose thug--but really--it would be the most beneficial.  Plus--I'm not a very big person and it would be awesome to be able to beat up people (this is bringing out the violent side of me I guess...)  :) 
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Craysh on February 13, 2008, 11:01:22 PM
I just thought of something.
It would REALLY suck if all you could burn is aluminum or  duralumin.
Also, I always thought it was strange that all metals have a internal and external variant, but aluminum are both internal.
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Comfortable Madness on February 13, 2008, 11:21:47 PM
While it's true duralumin effects something inside of a mistborn it is technically an external metal since it effects the metals and not the person.
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Craysh on February 14, 2008, 12:06:58 AM
Too bad, it'd be kind of interesting if you could "burn out" an enemy.
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: White on February 14, 2008, 12:03:48 PM
If I was going to go outside the standard 8, I would go for Numero 10, Malatium which allows you to see others pasts - it would be interesting if nothing else. Though I guess Atium's pretty darn fun sounding too.


Speaking of Allomany in theory: has anyone ever considered if physically smaller Mistings/Mistborn (including say, Vin) get more bang for their buck, so to speak in terms of perhaps the metal lasting longer - because if they're smaller maybe they use it up at a slower rate, and therefore are more efficient - though possibly not if they were a thug, or coinshot, or pusher where physical mass could come more in handy to offset that?
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Survivors Apostale on February 14, 2008, 01:21:00 PM
Like a little person getting drunk faster when drinking?
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: dawncawley on February 14, 2008, 05:06:03 PM
I would totally be a soother. I am like that most of the time around my house anyway. I would like to be better at it, but I am pretty good if I do say so myself ;) With two boys and a bi-polar husband it kind of is a learned trait though.
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: White on February 14, 2008, 06:15:21 PM
Like a little person getting drunk faster when drinking?

Yeah, exactly like that, a lower volume of alchohol is necessary to be drunk for smaller people, so - therefore maybe the metals of mistings of lesser size would last longer, because they needed to burn less of it to reap its benefit, than physically larger mistings?

I mean, I mainly raised this point when it occured to me that in situations involving Vin and another mistborn (or hey, a misting able to use atium...) where each were using a same sized portion of atium -- her supply might out last theirs.

Plus, by that logic she'd be cheaper to run in the long term.
Like... 'Economies of (small) Scale'
 ;D
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Jhaeli on February 14, 2008, 06:49:32 PM
I would totally be a Tineye. :) Being able to perceive above and beyond would be brilliant.
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: VegasDev on February 14, 2008, 07:38:04 PM
Like I said, I chose thug. Here are the reasons I did not choose the others.

Coinshot's are cool only because they can fly, but thugs can probably jump pretty far/high when flaring. Coinshots can shoot metal to take people out, but a thug could carry a crossbow or even throw something fast enough to kill someone with the strength and speed they have and they are not limited to metal which can be deflected. If anyone has seen Randy Johnson hitting a pigeon while pitching, you'll know what I mean. Lurchers can do pull ups and steal your money, that's about it. A thug can do both of those things. :)

Soothers/Rioters are pretty cool because they can manipulate people's emotions, but I think this is something that a thug could learn to do without allomancy, but obviously not to the same extent. What made Breeze great was not his allomantic ability, but his ability to read outward expressions.

A smoker is worthless by himself, but helpfull with a team. A seeker can find other allomancers but not if they have a smoker. Vin was the only Allomancer that could pierce a copper cloud. So in a sense, Smoker and Seekers cancel each other out.

Tineye's are cool because they can see, hear and smell real well. The other senses aren't as usefull. A thug could carry a spyglass and a hearing horn, although it would attract a little attention but a smelloscope hasn't been invented yet in their world so give the edge to Tineye.

So, of the base 8 mistings, the thug is the best in my opinion. A thug can learn techniques or carry instruments that would allow him to have similar abilites as the other mistings. The others can pump iron, do a bunch of plyometric training, etc. but they can't learn to take a sword in the gut and still move when all conventional wisdom says they should already be dead.
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Survivors Apostale on February 14, 2008, 07:47:50 PM
The crowd has spoken and thug seems to be the over all favorite, but it just seems a little one dimensional. You take hits and keep on going. At least with a soother it would take some pretty advanced body language learning. I guess the thing that keeps me going back to the Lurcher and Coinshot is the ingenuty it would take to make them worhwhile.

Take a lurcher for example. Standing between two buildings, both two story, with windows and metal latches. Pulls on the top most window really hard so he shoots up, tugs on the opposite buildings top window causing him to arc away from the origanol building, but still pulling on the origanol latch so his momentum would carry him to the roof. After some practice, both the lurcher and a coinshot would easly be able to fly through the night like a mistborn, and probably be a decent assassin/crowd control figure.
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Pygmalion on February 15, 2008, 12:00:17 AM
Like a little person getting drunk faster when drinking?

Yeah, exactly like that, a lower volume of alchohol is necessary to be drunk for smaller people, so - therefore maybe the metals of mistings of lesser size would last longer, because they needed to burn less of it to reap its benefit, than physically larger mistings?

I mean, I mainly raised this point when it occured to me that in situations involving Vin and another mistborn (or hey, a misting able to use atium...) where each were using a same sized portion of atium -- her supply might out last theirs.

Plus, by that logic she'd be cheaper to run in the long term.
Like... 'Economies of (small) Scale'
 ;D


Hey, I never thought about that... I bet you're right. Gosh some of you guys are so smart... I just sit there reading and grinning while obviously you guys are thinking too.  ;D
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Azhev on February 15, 2008, 03:43:46 AM
Hey, I never thought about that... I bet you're right. Gosh some of you guys are so smart... I just sit there reading and grinning while obviously you guys are thinking too.  ;D

But I like just sitting there reading and grinning while the others do the thinking.  Thinking makes my brain hurt.  ;)
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: charity on February 15, 2008, 05:49:20 AM
If I couldn't burn atium or being a full blown mistborn I think I'd have to go with thug, although tineye sounds cool  too, but a thug has a better chance of defending themselves since they don't rely so heavily on metals as say coinshots do. And defense in that world seems pretty important to me, so I'd go with thug.

But I'd really just like to be a mistborn.
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: White on February 15, 2008, 08:01:37 AM
If I couldn't burn atium or being a full blown mistborn I think I'd have to go with thug, although tineye sounds cool too, but a thug has a better chance of defending themselves since they don't rely so heavily on metals as say coinshots do. And defense in that world seems pretty important to me, so I'd go with thug.

But I'd really just like to be a mistborn.

Are you sure about that? I mean, surrrrre there's the powers, but there seems to be a kind of limited lifespan that pops up when you actually start using them...

Although the fashion's quite snazzy.
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Survivors Apostale on February 15, 2008, 12:58:20 PM
If I couldn't burn atium or being a full blown mistborn I think I'd have to go with thug, although tineye sounds cool  too, but a thug has a better chance of defending themselves since they don't rely so heavily on metals as say coinshots do. And defense in that world seems pretty important to me, so I'd go with thug.

But I'd really just like to be a mistborn.

But this takes all the skill out of it. You have to be really good at your one thing if your just a misting. Being a mistborn is kinda like always giong to your mom's house to wash your clothes. (bad analogy)
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on February 15, 2008, 08:19:47 PM
I think I'd want to be a coinshot, for the flying. It would be so much easier to get to work in the morning...I'd just sail along above the gridlocked cars on the freeway while their owners shook their fists at me in envy. (And if they took shots at me, I could push the bullets away!!)
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: VegasDev on February 15, 2008, 10:32:58 PM
I just figured it out. With the increased speed, strength and stamina, a thug should be able to hold two feather dusters in his hands and flap his arms fast enough to make himself fly. So that just leaves being able to smell better, cloud his allomantic abilities and find others that were burning before becoming a poor man's Mistborn.
Title: Re: Poll Time!
Post by: charity on February 15, 2008, 10:53:45 PM
If I couldn't burn atium or being a full blown mistborn I think I'd have to go with thug, although tineye sounds cool  too, but a thug has a better chance of defending themselves since they don't rely so heavily on metals as say coinshots do. And defense in that world seems pretty important to me, so I'd go with thug.

But I'd really just like to be a mistborn.

But this takes all the skill out of it. You have to be really good at your one thing if your just a misting. Being a mistborn is kinda like always giong to your mom's house to wash your clothes. (bad analogy)

Yeah,  I'm totally missing that. right over my head there. ;)