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Local Authors => Writing Group => Topic started by: Fellfrosch on December 14, 2003, 01:54:07 AM
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I, for one, thought that Fell's book was amazing.
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wouldn't know. Havent' gotten it yet. I think that guy's just lazy. I mean, how hard is it to click "Reply to All" and then "attach," find his document, double click it, then click "Send"
I hope he hasn't taken that many short cuts with his novel.
BTW, I think we should make a thread for each novel we're looking at. I'm thinking even each chapter, just so it's easier to review when you're making changes to your book.
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I think that i would like to know who gave Gemm my email address. I feel exposed now.
SE, i got your email. But i was rather bored with its contents. You did a rimmer with the silences.
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Entropy, sometimes you make less sense than Gemm
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Well, thanks for telling me that Entropy. I didn't realize I had yours, but now that I do, don't worry too much.
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Entropy, sometimes you make less sense than Gemm
I was doing it months before he was. Only i stopped. But i am the one and true master of wierdness.
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I don't know how many other people have read, but I'm looking at my writing, and really only the last 3 chapters have length to them. THe first four are pretty short. So next time maybe we can do two chapters. Depends on how this goes.
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Saint - I don't know what happened but somehow I lost your file. Could you send it to me again?
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I sent a link. Do you still have the email?
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That's why I thought I lost it. I was looking for an email with a large file size, but it's a link. Thanks
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Oh, and by the way, as an after-thought you couldn't think of putting this one nearer to the top, like say after "everything else?" Just a thought.
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This thread is way too limited to be at the top. The people who are supposed to be here will look for it, and the rest will ignore it.
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remember folks, tonight is our first writers group chat. Anyone who can, try to connect to AIM by 9pm eastern, 7 pm mountain.
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I thought it was 10 pm eastern. 9 works too. I just discovered this part today. I read the announcement that it was put up, but forgot about it till today...
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I can't connect your site to get the book, SE. Is it down right now?
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Stacer: you are right. It should be 10 eastern, 8 mountain. my bad.
Fell: apparently it is. Someone please email Fell a copy if you have it. Otherwise, I'll send it when I get home tonight (about 4 hours from now, maybe a touch more.
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So 10 est tonight?
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yes
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excellent
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btw, my site is back up.
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fell, the email bounced, but the site is back up.
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Ok, that went good. Next chat is at the same bat time, same bat channel. Hopefully Fell's connection will keep him with us better.
Here's the deal:
Next Tuesday, Dec 30th (we said the 29th in the chat, but we meants Tuesday, which is the 30th), 10pm Eastern, 8pm Mountain, we'll chat again. Catch up if you didn't show up tonight.
For next week, we will be doing:
Chapters 2 & 3 of Krag the Unbeliever (Fell's novel)
Chapter 2 of Peks' Tale (my novel)
and a short story by Gemm (ask him if you didn't get it tonight)
Be prepared to give critical (but helpful!) comments and such.
Tonight was good, I got a lot out of it
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Saint - i didn't mean to be online. I was sleeping. I got up at 6am this morning. Ergo, going to a writers group that begins at 4am or so is not good.
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So how would I go about joining this? I was inspired by my recent cruise and have started writing again (For the first time in a long time...)
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I haven't gotten the new submissions. Could you please email me at dream on 27 x at yahoo dot com (no spaces).
Thanks.
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Everything but Gemm's short story was included in the documents you should have already been emailed. Do you need them again?
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oh, and Dr. P, I don't see why you couldn't join. If you want to comment on the current crop, drop me and Fell and Gemm emails so we can send you copies of what we're reading for tomorrow night's chat.
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Fell and Saint, sorry I haven't emailed you my comments from last week yet. I've been trying to hurry and pass my classes. :-[ I'll do what I can tomorrow but may still be a little behind. Once this week is over and I've turned in the final paper for this class (Friday), I will do better and catch up.
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finish your school, and don't stress it. I'm working on the second half of the novel right now, so it's not necessary to ahve those notes right away.
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I must have lost them. I'm really sorry. If anyone has a chance, please re-email them to me (anyone, please). Also, I am still in need of Gemm's story.
Blast. Sorry about that.
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actually, you can still get mine off the link from the NaNoWriMo calander I made. it's the same manuscript.
I'll email you a link to all three from my work address. I uploaded to a space so I could see them from work without printing. There's no way to get to the others without knowing the exact address, though.
To the justbeacusehesevil... address?
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Thank you Gemm and Saint for your emails. Hopefully I will be able to make it tonight.
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I don't think I'll be able to make it tonight. I'll make it next week.
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ok, it's obvious I need to work out some character relationships, but another good chat.
Next chat is Jan 6, same bat time, same bat channel. we didn't do Gemm's story, so we'll be doing his next week, along with another 2 chapters of Krag the Unbeliever and one more of Peks' Tale (the last short chapter of the book -- chapter 4 is twice the average length so far))
it would help if we all tried to read BEFORE tuesday, though, so we don't start more than an hour late like tonight.
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:p
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(incidentally, that wasn't meant to be a jab, and I didn't name names, still haven't, actually)
On a completely unrelated note, EUOL, have you read my manuscript, and have you any time to do so? I'd love your comments.
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Yes, I would like in if possible.
You can send your manuscripts to my email address which I think you all have...
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I"ll have to check my address book at home, but I don't think I do. you can drop a line to the email in my profile and I can send you a link to all three current manuscripts.
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by the way, Dr. Pepper, I don't have an email address for you. You'll have to mail me
Oh, and folks, it won't really impact this time around, but I redivided the later chapters, and cut off the ending that I never intended to stay more than 24 hours.
So, it's at the same link, email me if you need me to resend the link.
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So tonight, 10, yes?
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I'll be there, but I might be a little late--like half an hour.
Is anyone else beside the authors planning on being there?
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tonight, 10 for the east coasters, 8 for the Utahns.
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I'll be there, unless I have to pick up my wife, in which I'll be there around 8:30.
Krag 4-5, and Pek 2-3, right?
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Peks 3, actually, though I'll ask for feedback from 2 that I haven't gotten yet. SHould we just start half an hour late? I know an hour late made a lot of people tired last time.
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Half an hour late works for me. Tutoring starts up again tonight and I usually don't get home till 9:30-10.
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I'm fine whatever.
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ok, 10:30, 8:30 for Utards
a term I assume Fell edits primarily because you can't come up with a good variation of Virginian without implying something sexual)
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I'll be pushing it to start at 8:30, since I have to drive home from Logan after work (about 2 hours) and then see my children for the first time in 2 days. I'll see what I can do, though.
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RARR!
Ok, folks, do we need to reschedule when these chats are normally? If no one can make them on time or near thereto, we can change when they are.
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Wednesdays really are a better night for me, what with the tutoring on Tuesdays.
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I really can't say when is best for me because my schedule isn't firm yet (here's hoping that happens soon!) And anyways I've got this trillian thing up and I really don;t know how it works, so if any of you read this and notice that I'm not chatting with you then post here and tell me what to do.
Thanks!
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have you got an AIM nick?
Duh, yeah, one in your profile. Can you connect? or do you need help with that?
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well I've got the window up and the only thing on the screen says offline contacts.
There is a button that says global connection and I pressed it and selected global reconnect, but nothing happened.
Do I need to do something different?
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I'll be posting a thread for more follow up tomorrow sometime on Peks chapter 3.
ok, Fell never showed up, so next week we'll do Krag chap 4-5 and Peks Chapter 4.
Do we still need to choose a new meeting time?
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There is virtually no time that is convenient (read: possible) for me to meet under current circumstances. Possibly late night on a weekend.
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Tuesday nights are fine with me. This week I forgot Writing Group because I hadn't gone more than once, and so I planned something before it.
Wednesdays, and Thursdays are also good.
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ok, let's move it to Wednesdays, and Fell will join us when his life is slightly more manageable
In the mean time, we can press on with what we've got.
So, next chat meeting, Wed, 1/14, 10 pm eastern, 8 pm mountain, we'll be discussing Peks 4, and MoD has said she wants us to look at a movie review. I'm sure we can handle a third short piece, if anyone needs.
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Ok. A question: would Saint and Gemm and anyone else prefer to have their stuff read one chapter at a time, or is it okay to read it all and only comment on the chapter at hand?
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I don't mind if you read the whole thing at once, but I'm only going to lead discussions on my stuff one chapter at a time.
If you do read all the rest of what I've written, make sure you get the version with the new chapter divisions (found in the same place as the old version)
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Thats right, almost forgot my thought. Well, you shouldn't really have a problem reading all of my first short story at once. The markers only denote where I want to cut it off when it goes into the newspaper.
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So, tuesday night, the 13th, at 10 pm est again?
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We moved to Wednesday, but still at 10 eastern.
MoD still hasn't sent us her article.
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*sigh* Indeed. Does someone have an email list of all interested parties?
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I'll try to come up with one later tongiht.
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Ok, not sure if I'll make it. Me and Jenny are going out that night. So I'm not totally sure when I'll be around.
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Uhm... we kind of need to know yay or nay now. Do we read your story or not?
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I'm going to go with a nay on that. But read it anyways. You know, for effect.
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Well, I have to apologize, but I'm not reading with the movie review yet, so I guess we're just reviewing Saint's Chapter 4?
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yeah, looks that way, unless it's going to be less than 4 of us, then I'll wait too.
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Well, I don't know exactly what this does to numbers, but I've got Enrichment tonight, plus I'm kind of sick and will probably go straight to bed when I get home. So I'm not going to be able to make it tonight. Sorry.
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well, i think that leaves me, MoD, Kije, and Dr. P still.
So until one of this quartet backs out, I'll still be online.
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I'll be there.
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im in
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Yeah, me too. I'm in. So that means we'll be critizing my work.
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i connected about 7 minutes after 10. Did everyone give up on me already?
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I'm having connection problems (strictly IM, obviously), so I'm going to be late. I'll post again if I really can't get on.
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Doesn't look like it's going to work and I can't find AOL's web client (the one you DON'T have to download).
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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hrm... Trillian isn't working for you? and the AIM client isn't working either?
ANd you say you can't find the AIM Lite or whatever it is?
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if it happens again, you can try http://www.aim.com/get_aim/express/aim_expr.adp?aolp=
It's a non-client way of connecting to AIM. Needs cookies, but not installations. Don't know if it supports chat rooms though.
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That's exactly the one I was trying to find. I don't have the AIM client, but since none of my other accounts could sign in either, I think it was something with Trillian or with the computer. Since my husband's computer has ME, that's not outside the realm of possibility.
I've almost got my computer up and running, except for the fact that it won't release the ip address, and for some reason I can't use the internet.
/me grumbles "I hate MS"
Does this mean that there was no writing group last night?
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We talked about Gemm's story, and I asked Dr. P some basic questions to get his feedback on issues that have come up before.
We're meeting again next Wed. 10pm for easterners, 8 pm for Utah. 9 if you live in between. We'll be reading Peks Chapter 4 and Dr. P's chapter(s) that he sent out by email. Possibly MoD's article if she gets around to distributing it.
It would be courteous to have read before Wed night. Everyone should have the bits by Dr. P and by me.
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ok, chat is tomorrow
here's what we're doing
final draft of Gemm's story
early chapters of Dr. P's story
Chapter 4 of Peks
Have them all read BEFORE we meet, please. okithx.
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okithx? dare I ask?
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just l33t speak for "ok? Thanks."
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I'm getting further and further behind, guys, and I'm afraid I'm going to have to say that for at least another couple of weeks I'm not going to be reliable. Tomorrow night is temple night and it's unlikely I'll be home before 10 or 11, and I still haven't had a chance to look at the most recent stuff, and won't during the day because I've had to actually start working at work. :P The other temp is on vacation for another couple of weeks, one of the EAs has quit and her last day is tomorrow, so that leaves me, the underpaid, non-insured temp to cover everyone else. I had about 10 projects dumped on me today alone, and was able to complete 5 of them, and then everyone comes with more.
This would all be simply wonderful if there were any kind of indication that they were wanting to keep me on in a permanent position and give me a salary that actually pays the rent. Instead, what's happening is that I've worked in that department for three months and they won't even give me a phone extension or email. So when I have to forward electronic files to people (which is one of the main duties of my job) I have to physically walk across the building and tell them that I've put a file on the server for them, tell them the name of the file, and hope they remember it. And it would be even better if I had gotten paid for that mandatory day off on Monday.
I suppose this should be under rantage, but all that is to point out that I may be going low, if not gone, for a week or two, and won't be making it tomorrow night.
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ok, still looks like we got 5 people coming tonight though.
So, everyone, this is TONIGHT. please have read all the stuff by then. Read it while at work if you need to. You've got 12 hours.
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Well, I'm about halfway through Saint's chapter. I'm sure I can finish that and Gemm's before 8 tonight, but it kind of depends on how long Mr. P's is.
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Dr. P's is about 5 pages Mine is by far the longest one
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Yeah. 10 and a half pages, 0.5" margins, TNR and 8pt. Woah.
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yeah, well... Garamond is tighter
this is also the longest chapter I have at all in the book
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guys - something's come up and I'm not going to make it tonight. I have read Peks 5 and the Horror, so just post main questions/concerns with those works and I'll respond on the board. I have lost my copy of Dr. P's stuff. If I can get another copy I'll respond in a like manner.
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/me adds Kije to The List
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actually, that measn we're all on except for MoD (and fell if he somehow decides he can join.
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MoD, you're a punk.
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ok, next chat, Wed, Jan 28, 10pm eastern, yadda yadda
Peks 5 is up, not sure what else, no one's submitted anything. Unless fell is up for the chat, then we can do some more Krag.
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Hey SE, I got that e-mail. Thanks.
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MoD, you're a punk.
Yeah, I know. I over did it with errands last night and by the time 8 rolled around I was neither finished reading, nor in a very pleasant mood. So I'm sorry. I did finish reading, if anyone has general questions.
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Nah, its ok. We pulled a little "Who's on first?" for a while. And you're not a punk in my book MoD.
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Thanks
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Woot, thats two within an hour. Chalk one up for the pie-meiser.
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I thought we were doing Peks 5 last night. I guess I'm just pre-prepared. :)
Can someone send me a copy of Dr. P's stuff?
And I've got a story that needs some feedback if we're lacking for stuff to discuss. It's about 5000 words.
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I'll send it to you.
And the story sounds good. Peks 5 and Kije's story next week good for everyone?
Oh, and on the subject of Peks 5, I changed the chapter divisions from the first time I sent the link so make sure you have the 9 chapter version rather than 7 or whatever it was before. If you don't, just re-download it. It's in the same place, same file name.
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On the NaNoWriMo calendar?
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yes
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Hey all, I hate to say it but I won't be able to make it this week. I'll post comments on the forum though if folks put up questions they want my opinion on.
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I'll kill you!
er.. ok. Question is, is Stacer out again? Right now we have me, Gemm, MoD, Kije, and Stacer (I'm assuming Fell will tell us when he's coming back.
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Yeah, sorry, I'll be out at least this week and next week.
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is there a better day for you stacer? i though we moved it to Wednesday because you liked it better
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I do like it better; it's just that there are complications in my life right now that I have to deal with and the writing group has gotten pushed to the back. I still have to finish that class I got an extension on, and this last month has been kind of crazy socially and I'm still dealing with the aftereffects of a DTR last night, and I'm just not going to have the time to devote to writing group for the next week or two like I thought I would. I just keep getting further and further behind, I know, and I really do *want* to participate, but right now I'm just not able to make it a priority. :-[ I know it throws you guys off, and I'm really sorry.
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/me hugs stacer
I hope everything went okay. Let me know if you'd like to talk. . . .
Am I the only one who didn't get Kije's submission?
/me feels like the RSC
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ok, uh..
Some didn't show up who had indicated they would. Some didn't read.
Uh.. that was REALLY disappointing.
Please let us know if you're not showing up. PLEASE pay attention when I post what's going to happen so you can ask for clarification or say it won't work.
RIght now, it's another week. Next wednesday. Feb 4. 10 pm Eastern. PLEASE HAVE READ BEFORE THEN! You should have the links. If not tell me. I'll fix it. If you have a busy Wednesday, read before then. This is a mutal aid thing, it's not fair to say you'll be there and ready and then not be.
If you have a problem with the time or the material, post here, we'll try to work it out as a group.
Sorry if it comes off too strong, i'm just a little upset that I waited till 10 and then had nothing to do.
For the record, we'll be doing Kije's story, and my chapter 5.
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I'm sorry I missed you, Saint.
And 9pm is better for me, but I understand if that's too late for the ECs
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I sent the story to the justbecausehesevil... address, MoD. Did you check there?
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I think Gemm would be ok with it, hwoever, I have to wake up at 6 to get to work. If we don't START until 11, then we go for 2 hours like we have been, well... 5 hours of sleep is VERY unfun. 10 is the latest I can go.
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Yes Kije, I did. It wasn't there. And for the record, I'm closing that account (I have too many to keep track of), so please don't send any more emails there.
I understand Saint. It's just that I usually don't get home until 6:30 or 7:00, and on the off chance that we have to run errands, my chances of getting home by 8 are very small. Maybe in the future, if you don't mind, give 30 mins to get on rather than 15. I'm not saying wait if there's enough to get a writing group started, but if there isn't, don't disappear quite so fast.
What do you think?
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it still would have only been three, because SOMEBODY, who can't be bothered to read this thread and thinks that is MY fault didn't even read. He didn't finish reading one of the stories until 10:15, and didn't even start the other. Partially because he suddenly realized that we had the group last night at about 9:20, then spent the next 40 minutes WHINING about how busy he had been and how long the chapter is instead of actually READING.
So , there wasn't a reason to hang around.
I'll wait up to half an hour if I know that there's something to wait for. I didn't wait for professors for more than 15 minutes, I don't wait for much that long. But I'll wait that long if I know I haven't just been ditched.
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Hey hey. I started printing those off at about 9:20. So I started reading as they came. So =P
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I was about to respond to that, but I've decided you know my feelings on the matter already.
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I don't have a different email for you, MoD. Mine's on my profile - you can send me a message to reply to, and I'll send you the story if you'd like.
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Saint: I've read thru chapter 9, and have comments on all the chapters. Would you like me to send them all to you now, or wait until we discuss things each week? If I send them now I can still participate in the discussions, answering additional questions and such.
I can also help out with outlining or whatever you mentioned earlier.
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yeah, just forward to them. Do you want to be my spoiler idea guy?
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sure.
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when can you do it? I know it's Friday, but I'm apparently not going on any dates tonight, so I could blab at you tonight. or most other weeknights, possibly on the weekend too.
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sorry-didn't see that til 2330 EST. I'm good tomorrow night, Wed. night pre/post writing group, or next Fri/Sat. night. Possibly mon,tues,thurs. pm. Let me know what works for you best.
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s'all good. Sooner the better, I want to get a move on so I want to finish this outline within a week and then finish the rough draft within a couple months so I have time to have at least a SECOND draft by WorldCon.
Anytime after mid-afternoon today is good for me.
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I'm gojng to read the convo you sent right now, and I'll try to meet up with you on AIM sometime after that.
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ok, well I'm on all night. (y'know, till bed time anyway)
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ok, if you haven't read Peks chapter 5 or Kije's story about the priest and his god, well, get on it. We'll be discussing wednesday night. You've got 2 days.
And Fell, when will you be joining us again?
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I will again be busy this wednesday. In fact, until this group project is done I won't be able to make any wednesdays. :(
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how long will that be?
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A few weeks at least.
Like I said, I'll still reply to questions asked here on the forum since I can't make the sessions. I've already read both stories for this week.
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thanks, just want a feel for it.
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Saint, I'm on aim waiting whenever you're ready.
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ok, by my count, we've got me, Kije, Gemm, and MoD tonight. Gemm told me he may be a few minutes late, and MoD, I'm assuming, would like us to wait in case she has to complete some errands. So we'll start sometime between 10-10:30
Does anyone mind if I invite a friend to join us? She'll have some stuff for us to look at and will be read up. If it's ok with everyone.
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Kije:
dreamon 27 x (no spaces) at yahoo dot com
All:
I'm sorry, but I don't think I'll make it. My husband and I are baby sitting tonight (3 kids, one of them 2 mo old), and I won't be back until after 21:30 MST. I will try to post to the forums.
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well, that went unusually fast. But then, there were only three of us.
Next week, Peks 6.
No other takers so far, first come, first serve.
Fell, when you coming back?
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I hope i'm posting this in the right place.. I'd like to jump in for the second slot this week.. if it's alright with you'uns.
I'll send out my story today.. it's just a short story I wrote last year. I like to write things and then put them away for a while to ferment. Also gives me a chance to step back and take a fresh look later. So this is one that ready to air out and be critiqued. Thanks heaps!
I'd like to know the basics I guess.. does the story make sense? DOes it have good flow or is it too slow? Does anyone see the connection i tried to make between jona's desicion and her father's desicion?
Thanks so much!
gwenny
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this is tonight folkses.
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Iams can't make it tonight. I have a hostful of other things I've gotten to get done. Sourry.
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Instead of apologizing profusely every week, I've decided to just let you know that I'm out the rest of February. Deadline on this class is March 1, so my head will be above water after that.
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ok, so, me, Jenny, Kije, and that's it? Or is Fell back in?
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I'll be there.
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ok, Peks 7 and whoever else joins in the bandwagon next wednesday. 2/18. Same bat time, yatta yatta.
I'll be posting some questiosn about Peks 6 soon for those of you unable to make it last night.
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Tonight, folks. Uhm... I'm thinking it's mostly me and Kije tonight. Which is kinda lonely. Unless Gemm will be joining us. Kije has already given me more comments, so if no one else is going to be there, I'm not staying up for it and you can respond to my questions on the Peks 7 thread.
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I'm fine with that. I'll post to the thread.
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Sorry. If you couldn't tell, I was out with a wonderful lass this eve.
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anyone showing up for this tonight?
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I can be there, if there's going to be enough for a discussion. Sorry I haven't posted ch 7 comments yet.
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Well, i'm not staying up, I think.
Dunno, no one seems to be showing up. Are we going to reorganize this? Who's still interested in doing this? I mean in general, like some day.
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Phew. I sat down to watch the West Wing with my wife and completely forgot about it.
I can see how interest has flagged. Only when we have a community of writers who write regularly enough to submit regularly will we have any kind of continuing cooperation, I think. Myself excluded. I like working with other people on their pieces, even if I don't write so often myself.
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yeah, I think everyone knows that I want to read other people's work, but it doesn't matter when no one else has something.
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If I didn't have this group project on Wednesdays I'd be there. My problem is that I'm stymied. I just can't make myself write anymore...even though I still want to. I haven't made much progress on my story at all of late, thought its over twice as long as the first draft that was sent out...
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well, I do know what you mean. I've written like, 1000 words in the last month. That sucks. I keep trying to force myself. Too bad we're not local to each other so we can't gather just to write.
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I am interested in starting back up, just not for another week or so. My deadline is March 1, so after that I'll be much freer.
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Saint, are you looking for responses to Chapter 8?
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yeah, I suppose I am. Anyone showing up Wednesday?
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I will be there. (Yay! I'm done! Whoo hooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Yeah, can I tell you how much better I feel today now that it's done? Yeah.
Saint, can you post the link for the manuscript again in case I didn't download the new chapter breaks? I can't remember if I did. I have a lot of catching up to do.
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http://www.writers-group.org/NaNoWriMo/SaintEhlers/30.doc
So that makes three, since Kije always shows up. I prefer four. Gemm or MoD showing up tomorrow night?
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So do we have enough? I have two options on how to spend my evening, and if we don't have enough people, I can spend it cleaning my room, which I've lost complete track of in the last month. I need to find the floor again! And I need to weed. But if there are enough people I'll spend my evening reading in preparation. Which is it?
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I'll be there if we get 3 or more.
KIje and I usually show up, if you show up, and possibly Gemm and MoD... well, that's plenty.
I'll plan on being there for now.
We should have read up to chapter 8 of Peks. No one else has submitted lately.
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Okay. Then the house-and-heart cleansing, complete with blasting of loud country music, will be postponed to tomorrow night.
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well, you can still blast country music while chatting with us,... just don't sing to me :)
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Aw, but that would be half the fun! ;D Plus, it wouldn't all be country music. There'd be disco involved, specifically Gloria what's-her-name's "I Will Survive." That's such a girl-power song. But then, there's also SheDaisy's "Get Over Yourself." That's a fun one, putting me right back in country. :D
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y'know what, unless you want me to counter with Rob Zombie, Morphine, and Eels, don't even go there.
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a few things: next week is Peks 9. Plus something else if someone jumps on it soon and distributes it. I'll be emailing this chapter, as in my manuscript online the chapter has not been completed.
We also talked about moving it up an hour. The reason we do it at 10 is because of MoD, and she hasn't been showing up anyway. Since my body is apparently unhealthy and i'm dead exhausted by 10, I thought we should move it up to 9. If no one objects then that's what we'll do next week. Wednesday at 9pm easter (7 for you Utahns).
Naturally, since MoD can't make it that early, if she says she wants to come, we'll push back to 10 again.
Also, JamPaladin said he might like to join, I told him that would be great.
And finally, you don't have to have a finished story. If you want to talk about some ideas you have and want to solidify, or you're stuck and want help on how to move on, we can talk about those things on Wednesdays too.
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Why don't I dust one off and send it round.
Okay, so I think SE has seen an early, early version of this from years ago. It's a retelling of the Scottish folk tale The Black Bull of Norroway, a beauty and the beast variation. Since I went to Scotland, I have updated it a little, but it's still REALLY bad. I don't think I've even looked at it for a year. I've skipped around in the writing process and only written the beginning and part of the middle, so this manuscript is so bad. Shall we say the first 2 or 3 chapters? They're short. The whole manuscript right now is only 16 pages, so if that's not too long I'd love you to look at the overall story arch (what there is of it).
What I need is general feedback on what it's looking like so far, whether the dialog is working, whether it's interesting at all.
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Please do.
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tomorrow's the night, 9pm eastern. Read now if you haven't yet.
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Augh! I just realized I thoughtlessly double-booked myself. I won't be home tonight until at least 10, and I can't guarantee that because I'm dependent on others for a ride home. I know that last time I got home by 9:30 or 10, so I could still possibly show up, but I definitely won't be able to be there by 9. Can we say 10 again, and that I might be a little late? :-[
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ok, well, let's do 10 then.
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10 Eastern (MA, VA,) 8 Mountain (UT,) right?
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exactly.
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Ok - I seriously dropped the ball and forgot. I apologize. I know it's a pain for you to wait up that late, and even though it wasn;t for me you all were waiting, it makes it kind of moot when no one shows up. I hope someone else made it in. I will definitely post comments.
My wife tells me I need a reminder calendar. I'm getting one. This stuff happens to me too often.
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well, jampaladin and Stacer and I met. It went pretty good, though we did miss your comments.
I haven't written chapter 10, so we won't have that next week. JP is going to be sending round a longish story. From what I understand, it's long enough that we might not want to read a second one. I'm reserving judgement on that until I see it. If it's short enough, I may submit a short short story as well. Look for the email.
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Yeah, about 9k words. I'll send it around tonight probably.
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this goes down tomorrow folks. Read 'em if you got 'em. Unless I'm really productive today, I'll be sending out a short story for next week. I'll definitely bow out of that if there are other people who want feedback first, since we've already done a lot of my stuff.
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I have a short story I'd like to share with everyone. I'll mail it out today, and be around wednesday night for comments. And any comments you want just add them somewhere here.
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That's probably a good thing, because it's unlikely that I'll get my chapter done by tomorrow morning, which is when I said I'd try to do it by. I have a talk to give in church on Sunday, so I've been spending my spare time on that. I will still work on the chapter, but I doubt it'll be ready for this coming week. Probably next week.
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actually, Gemm, we're already full. I'm sending out a story tonight and Stacer is tomorrow. Show up for some of the chats and keep up. We can do yours the week after though.
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Err.... what do you mean by tonight and tomorrow? Do you mean the normal day and time, or is there a new day and time?
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no, i mean that my email with the story is leaving tonight and you should see it if you're up late enough on your computer (which is only going to be like 9 or so eastern) and Stacer's is going to be distributed saturday morning. We're discussing on wednesday still. shooting for the 9pm time slot.
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Oh, well your words were of the order that made sense to the chickens.
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MoD told me she's going to come, so unless anyone objects, we'll do this at 10 easter, 8 mountain
Yes, it HAS occured to me that despite the fact thatwe moved the time almsot a month ago, we've never held it at the new time. But still...
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Right. On orders of SE, I am to inform you all we're moving back to the normal time, which is one hour before the time we did it last week. Which is the supposed normal time.
Oh great, now I'm confused as to what time it is.
Anyway, it's on on it's original schelduled time.
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That's in half an hour from the time of this posting.
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I like 7/9et best. It's enough time for me to come home and eat dinner, but not enough time for me to possibly run errands beforehand, which is what always made me late before.
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So, SE, you going to send your chapter round? I haven't typed up mine yet (i.e., it's written on paper but not in the computer yet), but could send it round by late tonight if you're not going to send yours.
Oh, and MoD, were you ever able to open my chapter from last week? If so, did you have any other comments?
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i have not completed chapter 10 yet. I may by midnight. Whichever one of us posts that we've finished first should jsut send it out still.
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I just finished a story today. Not sure if you all want to add that one to the one I already sent out. Its a little over 550 words, since it's one of my assignments for my Creative Writing class.
I'm a bit proud of this one because I just made up four names, and one of the most ridiculous monsters you'd ever see in a fantasy setting.
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I'd say save that for another time. I'll have my chapter done today and send it round.
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Yeah, one per author per week is a good rule.
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So, if you didn't catch on, my chapter isn't really ready, either. I blame stupid boys. That, and I haven't really had time to sit down and look at the chapter to be sure I want other eyes to see it yet. So it looks like we'll just have the one story for this week. Sorry. I'll have it ready by next week.
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yeah um... I haven't even gotten Gemm's yet. So uh.. sup with that?
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I just forwarded it to you. Gemm, you might want to be sure it was sent to everyone.
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Errr... I thought I sent it out some time last week. I'm pretty sure I did. I'll resend though.
EDIT: Crap and a half. I errr... ummm... don't have any of my work on my laptop. Its all on my desktop at school. So umm... errr... if someone who has it already could sent it out to those who need it. Major poopsmith....
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Oh, and MoD, were you ever able to open my chapter from last week? If so, did you have any other comments?
/me looks guilty
Umm, well I will load Office tonight and get right on it. Busy weekend.
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Err... haven't gotten anyone's stuff yet. Is anyone else still submitting something for this week? Or is it just my piece?
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I haven't gotten anything either.
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The other piece was supposed to be mine. I can still send out what I've got of Chapter 2, but it's not really finished. It's only 5 or 6 pages long, and I don't really think it's all that interesting yet. Do you want to see it?
Oh, and I tried to forward Gemm's piece to you, MoD, but I still didn't have the yahoo address right. I'll try one more time.
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I just sent to the good address for Izzy. remember there's an "x" people. Update your addres books n' stuff.
Yeah, Stacer and I were both supposed to finish chapterst hat didn't finish. so there isn't a second one this time.
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By the way, SE, the wrong address (without the x) I had was from your email to me from a couple weeks ago. :P
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yes, and i've mentioned several times since then that it had a problem with it. :P
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Thank you everyone! I have received three copies of Gemm's story. I'll be there at 7.
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I am so so so sorry I missed tonight. It was totally unexpected and unavoidable. I got stranded in Cambridge while helping a friend move, didn't have my purse with me and had no money or T pass and wasn't able to get home till 10:30. Sorry, guys. I'll be there next week. I'll post comments here for Gemm's story hopefully tomorrow (it's too late and I can't think straight about it right now).
What's the decision for next week's submissions? I can have chapter 2 ready for next week if it's not full already.
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we're counting on your chapter 2 and "something" from me. Between tomorrow night's appointement and conference weekend I'm not promising delivery of chapter 10, but I have others
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oh, and we'll meet at NINE eastern. (daylight or standard, whatever is prevalent after the clocks get set forward). NINE is our standard time. This message is to prevent any confusion about meeting time.
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Okay, so EST equals the standard time for the Abridged Speculists. That's a good idea.
And Saint, I have to say that I am now glad that we are just the Abridged Speculists. All the stupid newbs are making "of doom" incredibly lame and stupid.
/me sets the newbs on fire. They don't notice, but it makes her feel better.
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yeah, I usually try to calculate time for MST, but I'm still not positive about JP's time. He's pretty good at knowing when to show up though. so it's all good.
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I sent my chapter 10 out. Stacer should be sending her chapter 2 soon.
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apparently Outlook is retarded and it sent five copies while telling me it sent none. I apologize
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Chapter 2 is out. I'll post questions for it later. Gotta run to conference.
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Happy! I got both chapters w/o a hitch.
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Just a question:
Do you guys mind me posting writer-themed discussion topics in this area? I figured this was a good place, since the topics near the top were getting a bit cluttered, for good, serious writing discussions.
However, I realize you founded this section specifically for writing groups. If I'm cluttering things up too much, I can pack up and go back to 'Everything Else.'
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no, it's fine. We kind of happily accept anyone into the group who wants to come, so why not have a quasi-group right on the message board.
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I think you miss-understood me. (Or I miss-understood your response.) I'm not looking to writing group (yet.) I just want to make certain it's okay with you all that I'm making topics in this area of the forum. (Like my 'Women help poor EUOL' topic.)
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I think what he's saying is that's the sort of thing a writing group does, and it's not a real writing group, but it's a supportive group kind of environment where you can start topics and get responses. Which is great.
Right, SE?
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yes. What I mean is, post on.
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And I'm actually glad you did start posting EUOL. We've started to talk about more than just when the next writing group discussion is going to be.
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Just to be sure I'm clear on this--are we now going to meet at our regular time (9 ASST) on IRC instead of AIM? Or are we still doing AIM?
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I'll just conect to both. you guys choose what we're going to do. IRC is easier in terms of connecting in a chat, i think
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I vote IRC.
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I forgot to attach the file, but other than that, Outline of Ch 1 is out.
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Just a reminder--tonight, tonight! It's 9pm EST, and we're reading Black Bull chapter 3.
Who's coming?
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JP has family coming, so he probably won't be there again. I will be there, however.
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Scratch that, expect me to be there. Looks like I won't be able to meet up with them anyway.
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I will be there.
Should I submit my Back to the Beginning section? ;)