Local Authors => Writing Group => Topic started by: EUOL on June 23, 2004, 12:58:00 AM
Title: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: EUOL on June 23, 2004, 12:58:00 AM
Okay, folks. If you've been paying attention to the other thread I started here today, I've been working on a new series schema. I need a title for the overarching series, however.
I've been thinking of calling the series "The Aethers of Lore," with 'Lore' being the world name.
I'm not sure if I like this, though. I like 'Lore' because of the way it sounds, not necessarily because of its dictionary meaning. I've tried other iterations of the same sound, but none of them quite work. Lorr doesn't look right on the page, I think, and Lorre makes me think it should be pronounced 'Lory,' like the actor.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on June 23, 2004, 01:01:10 AM
Well I'll agree that seeing "Aethers of Lore" makes me think 'Accumulated facts, traditions, or beliefs about a particular subject.' Or, Data's brother, since I'm a Star Trek fan.
Erm, not a world at all. You just like the name Lore? This is a little harder...
Lor Loar Loare Lorre Lour
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: EUOL on June 23, 2004, 01:10:00 AM
Now, it's okay to have a title have double meanings. I guess I'm not completely opposed to having 'Lore' there. However, do you think it's silly to name a world 'Lore?
Modesitt got away with 'Recluse,' and I actually think that's a very appropriate and clever name for a world. It works quite well.
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on June 23, 2004, 01:17:09 AM
Well I thought Recluse was ridiculous so I'm not the person to ask.
Lore isn't too bad. Much better than Recluse.
Ok, I'll shut up now and let other people comment.
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: Eagle Prince on June 23, 2004, 01:19:39 AM
I think Lore is a fine name for a world. Plus you already have a unique sort of spelling with aether instead of just ether, if I'm understanding this at all. So I don't think you want to spell Lore some exotic way, just Lore.
Also on the other thread you mentioned the title AETHER OF NIGHT, so I'm guessing each book would be like Aether Of Blood, Aether Of Storms, etc... I'm guessing it has something to do with your magic, so I'm just filling in the blanks with random things. Anyway, so you have AETHER OF [blank], for each element of magic or whatever, then AETHER OF LORE for the overall series. Sounds like a decent title concept to me, especially if you are wanting to say Hey this is in the same Mythos. Also, if you are planning on linking the series together via magic, then titling it off of the magic makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: EUOL on June 23, 2004, 01:36:28 AM
I wish I could get away with a sub-series name.
I.e.:
The Aethers of Lore The Aether of Wind Trillogy, Book One. CLIMB THE SKY (That's the actual book title.)
Perhaps something like
CLIMB THE SKY
The Aethers of Lore: Aether of Wind Trillogy, Book One.
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on June 23, 2004, 01:40:01 AM
I fully support that, because I am sick and tired of taking home books from the library and then not having ANY clue what's going on because it's book 4 of 7 and nowhere on the jacket does it deign to mention that fact.
Sick and tired.
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: EUOL on June 23, 2004, 01:48:23 AM
What do you think of the title? It appeals to me, for some reason. It's a bit different from my standard titling vernacular, which might be why I am drawn to it.
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Post by: Eagle Prince on June 23, 2004, 01:49:52 AM
I think there's precedent for something like that. Look at Shannara for example. You have Shannara, then you have the Shannara Trilogy, The Heritage Of Shannara, The Voyage Of Shannara, and High Druid Of Shannara. Then each of the books under that have their titles.
So I think it would work. When you are talking about something witht that type of breadth, its almost expected for their to be a clear labeling system. Imagine trying to talk about Shannara if every single book just had "Shannara" for the title, or even with them each having their own title but the whole series just called "Shannara". There are serious changes between Trilogy and Voyage, or Heritage and High Druid.
For what you are talking about here, I think you would need a title system like that. Not really, oh is this a neat enough idea to use. If you're going to have 2 or 3 series set in the same mythos, sounds like a good idea to do somthing like that. And I like how the titles match up, since its easy to know what's going on and what goes with what. Ever saw a book that looked good but then got frusterated trying to figure out what book goes where? Heh.
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: EUOL on June 23, 2004, 05:08:38 AM
All right, looks like I posted this too late for a lot of you. So, if you're just coming to the thread, here's a summary of things I'd like your opinion on:
1) "Aethers of Lore" Do you like the title? What do you think of calling a world "lore" anyway?
2) Possible other spellings of Lore that you think would sound cool?
3) Do you like the series/sub-series idea for titles?
4) Climb the Sky. Good name for a book?
5) Any other random thoughts.
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: Spriggan on June 23, 2004, 05:56:55 AM
actauly Aether is the correct spelling of the word, sort of. It's actualy Æther.
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on June 23, 2004, 09:57:01 AM
Not according to Dr. Sorensen, who said the ae as one letter died out a long time ago and is no longer appropriate for modern use.
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: fuzzyoctopus on June 23, 2004, 09:58:20 AM
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4) Climb the Sky. Good name for a book?
Catchy, but why? Explain the relevance of that title.
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: 42 on June 23, 2004, 10:45:47 AM
I have to say that Climb the Sky sounds kind of like a motivational chldren's TV show.
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: stacer on June 23, 2004, 12:03:06 PM
Wow, you people stay up late. You were posting at 4am my time.
I agree with Eagle Prince on the series-subseries issue--you need a clear labeling system, and the one you've come up with is straightforward and sounds good, too.
I like the idea of the world being named Lore or Lorre. When I see it, I think the French pronunciation, Lor, with a long O, so I don't know as if you'd have a problem with people wanting to call it a British truck (lorry). I do like the double meaning of Lore more, though.
Climb the Sky--hmm, not sure how I feel about it. Seems okay, and would be even better if the context warrented it.
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: House of Mustard on June 23, 2004, 12:56:38 PM
My problem with Aethers of Lore is that it sounds vaguely non-fiction (well, it sounds like the name of a non-fiction book in a fiction world). If you're okay with that, then great. (I don't think it would seem non-fiction if the spelling of Lore changed.
Climb the Sky sounds like something Covenant would publish.
Also, I really like the series/sub-series titles, but here's a more general question: as an author, do you want to tie yourself down to that many books? Right now I'm working on a series that's only three books, and it occasionally drives me crazy that I can't work on something else. Maybe that's just me though...
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: Entsuropi on June 23, 2004, 02:13:48 PM
That title is waaay too long EUOL. It'd intimidate me.
Aethers of lore is kinda boring as well. It sounds like a D&D book.
I agree with 42 on the climb the sky thing.
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on June 27, 2004, 03:13:39 PM
just to insert my opinion. I don't like "Lore." at all. not as a world name. It's just too loaded. I don't mind the double meaning in the title, but for the planet? Doesn't work for me. It sounds like you're talking about the traditions about aether. Instead of taking about specific Aethers.
Lor or Loor works better for me.
I don't have any problems with the titling pattern, but I have to concur with above comments, that "Climb the Sky" sounds a bit nancy or childish.
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: EUOL on June 28, 2004, 05:25:29 AM
Hum. I think I'll just go with 'Lor.' Sounds right, and I didn't Google any major fantasy series' that use the word. Can anyone think of a conflict?
As for CLIMB THE SKY--well, we'll see. I'm growing more and more attached to it. The story is, however, about flying magic, so I don't think that--in context--it will be as cheesy as one might originally assume without a cover or jacket blurb.
Title: Re: Let's Name Something Else!
Post by: Peter Ahlstrom on June 29, 2004, 03:01:38 AM