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Title: The time to apply is now...
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on September 28, 2005, 07:43:00 PM
College application season for my class, or at least those in my class expecting to both go to college and graduate this year.

And it is essentially a big drain of time.

Yay.  Oh well, the sooner I get back to work the sooner I'll be done get all the bloody forms and the sooner I'll start my essays...
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: Spriggan on September 28, 2005, 10:14:55 PM
ya applying for college the first time is a pain, I remeber how long it took me.

So where are you applying to?
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: Archon on September 29, 2005, 12:01:36 AM
The only one I know Gorgon is applying to is Michigan State University.
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: The Jade Knight on September 29, 2005, 01:06:29 AM
I only applied to one university.  I wasn't going to stay in Reno, and it was the only one I cared to attend that I could afford without scholarships (well, sort of afford).
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: Chimera on September 29, 2005, 02:16:27 AM
I only applied to one as well, because I heard back from BYU before I even had to have my applications in for California schools. And the California universities wanted me to take more standardized tests--three SAT II subject tests. Yech.

I did not want to take anymore tests. And since I got into the school I wanted, I didn't bother applying anywhere else.

But I kind of wish I had applied to Stanford. I'm not sure if I had a good shot or not. I had a high GPA and good SAT/ACT scores and some extracurriculars, but nothing that really stood out. However, I still wish I had applied.

Apply everywhere! It doesn't hurt.
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: stacer on September 29, 2005, 12:05:50 PM
Only one for me, too, and it wasn't BYU. My boyfriend was at University of Illinois, and so was the program I thought I wanted at the time, and what with my test scores and class standing and all the activities I was in (I was valedictorian--not much to say, for a class of 42, but it worked in my favor for scholarships). I had already been awarded a scholarship at U of I contingent upon getting accepted, so I pretty much knew I'd be accepted. So why pay the fees for applying elsewhere, when you're dirt poor?

My dream was to go to BYU, but I had given it up because of Tim and because everyone I knew said to stay at an in-state school because of all the scholarships. But most of the scholarships were only for the first year, so if I had applied at BYU, I probably could have gotten similar scholarships and carried the other scholarships that weren't state-specific with me.

So, apply where you really, really think you want to be, I say. I also wanted to apply to Harvard, just to see if I could get in, but never did. It's not like they had an animal science program. Or at least, I don't think so--I never actually checked. Having lived in Boston and been friends with Harvard students, though, I'm glad I followed the path I did. Harvard's just another school.
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: 42 on September 29, 2005, 01:20:24 PM
See, being agoraphobic makes decisions like these so much easier.
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on September 29, 2005, 04:29:26 PM
Agoraphelism, however, never had its up sides...

I'm applying to Michigan State, University of Michigan, and my third is unknown right now, probably Central.  I would love to go to Lawrence Tech, but it is far too expensive for me to be able to go there, I will almost certainly be going to state in my sister's footsteps.
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 29, 2005, 04:33:43 PM
you should apply to BYU.
Or to George Mason. then you could hang out with TWG-East.
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: The Jade Knight on September 29, 2005, 05:11:24 PM
I recommend BYU.  A friend of mine could either go to BYU on the Hinckley, or MIT on a $40k/year scholarship.

He chose BYU, and he's really glad he made that choice now that he's there.
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: GorgonlaVacaTremendo on September 29, 2005, 05:34:46 PM
I can't go out of state, either, my parents wont allow it and/or can't afford it.  :-/.
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: stacer on September 29, 2005, 06:22:12 PM
That's why BYU is a good thing for Mormons. Tuition runs LDS/nonLDS rather than in-state/out-of-state. The reasoning is that LDS members support it already with tithing funds.
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: Archon on September 29, 2005, 10:57:07 PM
I thought about applying to BYU just for fun. I don't know if I am going to, but I am still toying with the idea.
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: 42 on September 29, 2005, 11:10:31 PM
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I thought about applying to BYU just for fun. I don't know if I am going to, but I am still toying with the idea.

*Archon reaffirms his agnosticism.*


Just remember to get your Church leader endorsement in on time. And get ready for all those required religion courses.

I really do reccomend BYU for just about anyone, particularly for the cost, but it is rather exclusive and not that easy to get into. Student stats:
Average GPA:  3.74
Average SAT:  1179
Average ACT:  27
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: Archon on September 29, 2005, 11:14:18 PM
Well, that settled that pretty simply.
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 30, 2005, 09:07:26 AM
pfft on the average GPA. my high school gpa was around 2.3. I got in. 'Course, my ACT was really good. and I had a semester of community college behind me when I applied (4.0 for college so far).

Anyway, even for non-members BYU is incredibly affordable. BYU for non-members is considerably lower than IN-state tuition at any non-community college school in Virginia, for example (well, witht he possible exceptioni of GMU). So you might want to send in your app anyway.
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 30, 2005, 09:25:30 AM
costs (from the universities' web sites):

MSU: Total for two semesters: $13,711 (in-state)
UMich: (same costs for first two years, this cost appears to be for two semesters): $19,643
GMU: out of state tuition per term is $8,580.00 (YIKES!), in state is only $2,940.00. That's only tuition for one term though, the other numbers include room and board and fees. GMU will not save you money.
BYU NON-member expenses for two semesters (all costs): $16,072
BYU member costs for same: $14,366

You should convert than go to byu. It'll cost less than a $1000 more than MSU, and you get to hang out with TWGers. Even if you don't convert, it saves you money over UMich.

Oh, and the quality of the education is quite high. Favorably compares to the highest end "sub-ivy league" tier of schools (like VA Tech and UVA)
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: The Holy Saint, Grand High Poobah, Master of Monkeys, Ehlers on September 30, 2005, 09:29:15 AM
oh, and one more thing. I didn't see anything that made BYU any harder to get into than Umich or MSU. BYU looks at a lot of extra-curricular stuff, as well as the ecclesiastical recommendation (need not come from an LDS bishop)
Title: Re: The time to apply is now...
Post by: 42 on September 30, 2005, 02:06:57 PM
Getting into BYU isn't like trying to get into Harvard, but it does have a bit more paperwork involved. The stats I posted are the average stats of incoming freshmen according to US News and World Reports.

Admittably, ecclesiastical endorsements are not unique to BYU, a lot of other private religious universities require them.