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Local Authors => Brandon Sanderson => Topic started by: EUOL on May 24, 2005, 04:53:21 PM
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Fell:
Moshe was intrigued by our idea. He's going to see what Tom thinks about it next time they talk. However, talking with him, it kind of came out that this project would need four things:
1) It would ideally be short. (No complaints here.)
2) It would have to be written really fast. (The movie comes out next May. The question here is do you think you can commit to a project that will be this time consuming?)
3) It would need to be FUNNY. Very funny. (Your job?)
4) It would have to have a good plot on its own. (My job?)
He says if we could throw down a couple of sample chapters, we could probably sell the project off of those, assuming Tom was interested.
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I can agree with those four points. The thing we have to decide is whether we want it to be standalone funny (like the Mel Brooks spoof Blazing Saddles) or "funny because you know the source material" (like the Mel Brooks spoof Spaceballs). I tend to think that the former is funnier in the long run, but the latter is often more accessible because it is more targeted. I'd prefer a mix.
As for the time commitment, I can do it, but I reserve the right to whine whenever necessary, and to blame all delays and mishaps on my recent carpal tunnel diagnosis.
Once you get back in town we need to meet and go over our plan of attack.
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NOT FAIR.
This should be by email, not by forum where it can tantalize my curiosity.
Y'know, for your own safety. A frustrated e is an e that sends out the ninja monkeys more readily.
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hear, hear.
*Goes to investigate which movies come out next May
Poseidon Adventure (nah)
Zoom (huh?)
Over the Hedge (huh?)
X-Men 3 (hmm....)
The Da Vinci Code (ding ding ding!!!)
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Heh. But, if we did it via email, we wouldn't have wonderful comments like yours!
Fell:
The project Moshe seemed to liken this to is Bored of the Rings, which he seems to think is the most successful spoof book out there. I don't know which of your formats it follows.
I think your style of humor does lend itself better to the former. However, if we're going to market this thing in tandem with the movie, I think people are going to be looking for more Source Material type humor. It's something to think about.
Anyway, be thinking of general ideas for the story. It would be nice to have our proposal done by the end of June.
As for the method of writing the thing, my thoughts are as follows:
1) I think we should both develop the general plot and ideas.
2) I should come up with the outline.
3) Then we should split up the writing between characters. For some reason, I'm thinking you should take the main 'batch' with the hero and the girl. I take the villain viewpoints--and maybe some narrator-style commentary? But, we can talk about that later.
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If he's going for Bored of the Rings then yes, it's much closer to things like Spaceballs and Men in Tights and any number of Leslie Nielson movies, and those can be very funny. Splitting up the writing by character could work nicely, and I like your general split, but I want a villain too. Especially if we can have a dead one (though given the source material, that may or may not work. The ghost of an ancient templar?)
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how about the ghost of some artist?
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*Goes to investigate which movies come out next May
The Da Vinci Code (ding ding ding!!!)
Oh, wait, I remember them talking about this! At Bucca's, EUOL and Fell were saying something about spoofing The Da Vinci Code. I think they wanted to do a some sort of LDS spoof book. I'm not sure. Does anybody else at our end of the table remember this?
And are you already in on it, Spriggan? You seem to know prior information from your suggestion to use a dead author (I mean artist).
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A dead author would be sweet--we could collaborate with Victor Hugo!
As for Chimera's speculation, I can assure you that I may, or may not be, Vroomfondel.
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EUOL probably remembers a guy in Louise Plummer's 518 class who was writing a novel where the protagonist was visited by Charles Dickes's ghost. I found the idea intriguing. That's probably why I Freudian slipped and said 'dead author' instead of 'dead artist.'
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As for Chimera's speculation, I can assure you that I may, or may not be, Vroomfondel.
I was really confused by this and had no idea who Vroomfodel was or what it was referring to, so I googled it. Probably most of you know that he is a minor character from Hitchhiker's Guide, but if you are lost like I was, here is the link:
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/2202/vroom.htm
This seems to be the most important part:
"Who are you?" said Lunkwill, rising angrily from his seat. "What do you want?"
"I am Majikthise!" announced the older one.
"And I demand that I am Vroomfondel!" shouted the younger one.
Majikthise turned to Vroomfondel. "It's all right," he explained angrily, "you don't need to demand that."
"All right!" bawled Vroomfondel, banging on a nearby desk. "I am Vroomfondel, and that is NOT a demand, that is a solid FACT! What we demand is solid FACTS!"
"No, no we don't!" exclaimed Majikthise in irritation. "That is precisely what we don't demand!"
Scarcely pausing for breath, Vroomfondel shouted, "We DON'T demand solid facts! What we demand is the total ABSENCE of solid facts. I demand that I may or may not be Vroomfondel!"
"But who the devil are you?" exclaimed an outraged Fook.
"We," said Majikthise, "are Philosophers."
"Though we may not be," said Vroomfondel, waving a warning finger at the programmers.
So what you're telling me, Fell, is that you're not going to tell me anything. :)
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That has to be one of the more brillaint passages in Hitchhiker's.
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I haven't read the book, but I did really enjoy this passage (and Fell's clever use of it).
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Hehe. I know what the secret project is.
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so do half the people on the board.
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I don't. No one tells me anything.
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you're in the wrong half. I have assurances that EUOL knows.
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so do half the people on the board.
I think you exaggerate. There are 287 members, and I doubt that 143.5 of them know.
So, EUOL and Fell--are you going to let everyone know what you're up to? People might have some good brainstorming ideas--if you want input, of course. Sometimes I don't want people to know what I'm working on when it's in the beginning stages.
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Yes, but of those 287 members, how many actually post regularly?
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Details, details...
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See, what you don't realize is that 143.5 members of the board DO know.
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The question is, though, what do they know?
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Lets kill them and eat their brains. We'll soon find out.
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Make sure to deep fry us first.
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Mmmm....
Deep Fried Frosch Brains.
I think I'll pass on the EUOL brains, though--frying gets out a lot of the germs, but a corpse that's decayed as much as an Undead Overlord . . . That can't be sanitary.
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Mmmm....
Deep Fried Frosch Brains.
I think I'll pass on the EUOL brains, though--frying gets out a lot of the germs, but a corpse that's decayed as much as an Undead Overlord . . . That can't be sanitary.
Parker and Entropy.--STAY AWAY FROM EUOL'S BRAINS!!! His mind is inherently attractive to me--even in its undead state--and if you remove it you will have to face my wrath involving glue, fire, and sparkly objects.
Now Fell's brains--you can have those. I don't even know if he'll miss them. Isn't there a quote flying around somewhere from him saying, "Technically, I don't even have a brain"? I'll even fry them up myself, with a lovely garlic sauce.
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so you don't care a whit about his body? good. We'll torture him then.
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So we won't remove his brain, we will just make him wish we had. Are you sure that is what you want Chimera? If so, you are really a cruel person. I don't see how you could live with yourself, willing EUOL to go through that. If not, I get EUOL's brains for figuring out a way to avoid Chimera's wrath of glue, fire, and sparkly objects. MMMmmmm.....brains. :)
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Of course I care about his body! What good is a brain without a body? I like the whole evil undead package--I want him intact!!!
So just stay away from EUOL entirely. My wrath of glue, fire, and sparkly objects remains in force for any harm done to my boyfriend.
Although I'm sure that he can take care of himself. He works out, you know. ;)
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Well if we take your brain, then you can't do anything about us taking his.
Simple prioritisation wins again!
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Entropy, that was going to be my next solution. That or...well... we will just leave that for next time.
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Well if we take your brain, then you can't do anything about us taking his.
Only if you can pin me down. I may be small, but I run fast! Catch me if you can!
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/me hires vin diesel
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*Archon hijacks Batmobile*
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/me wraps himself in bacon
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http://www.shaw-island.com/archive/20050608.htm
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Imagine my surprise when, as I scrolled down the 10 most recent posts, the first thing that pops up is
* Fellfrosch wraps himself in bacon
:P
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*Chimera distracts Vin Diesel with her shiny objects, stops the Batmobile with her super-sticky glue, and uses her fire power to fry a lovely Fellfrosch-brain-and-bacon dish*
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/me releases 10 rapid otaku's on chimera, and tells them she loves to watch love hina
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Blasphemy! The Batmobile can not be stopped with mere glue. With it, Batman has faced down dozens of villains, and always come out the winner. Don't you think that someone like the Riddler would have thought of using glue, if it would actually stop the Batmobile?
*Archon proceeds to run Chimera down with the Batmobile before she has a chance to answer*
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*Chimera experiences several emotions before she is blasted and runover by the Batmobile
:o :-/ :-X :( ??? :P
*Ouch*
Now I'm angry! >:(
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I win! Entropy, I had so much fun, that I am going to let you have EUOL's brains.
If Chimera were still alive, I would ask her how she is angry, since the dead are dead, and are not inclined towards having emotions.
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Heh. That's what you think. I'm immortal.
I'll get you, Archon! And you're little Entropy. too!
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I'll get you, Archon! And you're little Entropy. too!
Irregular grammar cannot stop me!
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??? Irregular grammar?
I was doing a Wicked Witch of the West impression, from the movie The Wizard of Oz. You know, when she says to Dorothy, "I'll get you, my pretty! And you're little dog too!"
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Except that it's "your."
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I think it's correct. I've always thought of Archon as a little Entropy.
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But I'm taller than Entropy.
As for you, Chimera, your immortality will not save you from me. It probably won't save you from Entropy either. Just giving you fair warning.
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If we're talking about irregularities in the use of the English language, I don't think we need to take any guff from a guy who puts a period after his name.
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Talking like a victorian doesn't impress anyone, fell. Other than the japanese, potentially.
And since when are we allowing quotes from the wizard of oz? That film got banned by 99% of my braincells.
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I'm on Fell's side with this. The person who intentionally has the period there, thus rendering every *me* action into two fragments (if they were to be a sentence in the first place) has no room to criticize grammar.
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[JP]
IT'S TOO DEEP FOR YOU MERE MORTAL BAGS OF MEAT TO UNDERSTAND
[/JP]
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Why don't we just pretend that I was making fun of Chimera's grammar and be done with it? After all, the thought crossed my mind, Ent just beat me to it.
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[Entropy] I AM TEH SMARTEST!!!11!!!one!!1111! I THINK GURPS IS TEH AWESOMEST COS IT LIKE IS HAHAHAHHA U FOOL!!!!!111!ONE!!! [/Entropy]
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Except that it's "your."
Ah. Now I see what you were criticizing. Again, this is why Chimera should never post when she is tired.
And since she is tired all the time, being an insomniac and sick and all, just ignore pretty much anything she says.
(When I'm annoyed with myself I talk about myself in the third person. Am I the only one who does that?)
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Usually Zak will refer to himself when talking in third person, not the article that is associated with Zak. Get it right, you noun.
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No, Ent, we can't understand it. We haven't aspired to that level of making ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE that you have. Well, maybe Gemm.
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Muaaahaha...
Three chapters done. Forty-seven more, and the WORLD WILL BE OURS!
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It's mine! Bugger off!
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You'd better stop us from writing this, then. The plan is simple.
1) Write book
2) ?
3) Control THE WORLD!
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Step 2 is "Obtain Underpants"
Thing is, you need to obtain ALL the underpants. As in every pair in the entire world.
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Meh. No piece of wood extract will interfere with my ownership. Go away, little man.